The Trinity true or false?

Question

How can Jesus be God when it contradicts the the evidence shown in the bible.

Jesus Christ cannot be "Very God" (i.e., of "one person" with the Father) since statements about Jesus Christ are contradictions of statements about God, his Father. Consider the following:
Jesus Christ was tempted (Heb. 2:18) but God (his Father) cannot be tempted with evil (James 1:13)
Jesus Christ died (Rev. 1:18) but God (his Father) cannot die (1 Tim. 6:16)
Jesus Christ was seen by men but God (his Father) cannot be seen by men (1 Tim. 6:16)

Jesus Christ is a separate person from his Father. This is further indicated by the following references:
Jesus ascended to his Father and his God. (John 20:17). Since Jesus after his resurrection ascended to his God,1 then clearly he was not himself "Very God".
He prayed to his Father indicating a distinction and independence of wills. "Not as I will, but as thou wilt." (Matt. 26:39).
He is referred to as a man after his ascension into heaven. (

Answer 1

You hypocrisy pointer-outer! What is the "Holy Spirit" anyway? I was going to ask that question. I had 15 years of bible school, but never understood the Holy Spirit. Was he like Karl Rove, working behind the scenes. Like, everyone knew about him and had an idea of what he was doing, but no one really knew what it all meant. At least, that's my take on it.

Answer 2

I think what you're not getting is what the Trinitiy stands for. The Trinity means that there is one God in three forms: God the father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (cf. John 8:58, 10:38, 14:10; Col. 2:9). It also clearly teaches that the Holy Spirit is God (cf. Acts 5:3–4, 28:25–28; 1 Cor. 2:10–13). Everyone agrees the Father is God. Yet there is only one God (Mark 12:29, 1 Cor. 8:4–6, Jas. 2:19). How can we hold all four truths except by saying all three are somehow the one God?

Jesus tells his apostles to baptize "in the name [notice, singular, not plural] of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" (Matt. 28:19). This is a proof-text: three distinct Persons united in the one divine name. In 2 Corinthians 13:14, Paul writes, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all." We see this same unity of divine Persons in 1 Corinthians 12:4–11, Ephesians 4:4–6, and 1 Peter 1:2–3.

More information can be found here: http://www.scripturecatholic.com/jesus_christ_divinity.html

Answer 3

""The Trinity true or false?"" TRUE!
~~~~~~~~~~

A -- Indeed the word trinity is not in the Bible, but the indicators certainly are.
Look up Psalm 45, and Psalm 110. Both indicate THE GOD speaking to
"HIS OTHER".....also......The Trinity is indicated in 1 John 5:7 if you are using
a King James Bible (others have removed or altered same).

In the Old Testament see Isaiah 44:6 --- and His redeemer I am ---.
and Isaiah 45:11 --- And His maker --.

My favourite indicator is 1 Corinthians 15:28 ! At some point The Trinity will once
again unite because THEN there will be no need for The Trinity !

Water appears as a liquid, steam, and ice. All three are one.
A Clover leaf has three segments, it is but ONE clover.

In both situations above, three are one. Why can't THE GOD do the same?

Answer 4

The New Testament Church NEVER taught Trinity. It was the brainchild of one TERTULLIAN around 200AD (almost 200 years *after* the New Testament Church. He formulated the Trinity (Trinitos) concept and was embraced officially by the Roman Catholic Church about a century later.

Therefore it was not even a consideration within the True "New Testament Church". Trinity believers try and revision the scriptures to fit the triune God them.

It is slanderous and an insult (very antisemitic) to assume we Gentiles were more worthy of God than the Jews for Him to reveal a trinity aspect and hide it from those like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Joseph and Jacob and Elijah and David....

Of Every Good thing and every bad thing -FIRST to the Jews THEN to the Gentiles so there maybe equality in all things. The Apostle Paul said that quite clearly.

Answer 5

I believe in the Holy Trinity 100%. Yes, Jesus Was Tempted while He Was in the desert for 40 days. However, Jesus Had a Dual Nature: 1 Divine & 1 Human.

It was His Humanity which was Tempted(ie To Eat Food, etc).

Answer 6

God the Father, Jesus Christ (Jehovah of the Old Testament), and the Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct individual being who are one in purpose. They have distinct roles. The Father is God, under whose direction the worlds are created. Jesus Christ is His Only Begotten Son in the flesh. His role is was and is to atone for the sins of the world which opens the door to salvation. He also created the world under the direction of the Father. The Holy Spirit testifies of the Father and the Son which allows us all to know when we are hearing the truth.

Answer 7

There are things too comlicated for mere human minds to understand. It goes along with God being everywhere at once, that is mind boggling. We just have faith that it is True and not question The Father. Jesus said that those that saw Him HAd seen the Father. I will just pray for you because there is no way to make a person understand. The HOly Spirit has to do that. Jesus loves you.

Answer 8

How can one God be three persons?






See this page in: Bulgarian, Dutch, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish

The doctrine of the Trinity -- that God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit are each equally and eternally the one true God -- is admittedly difficult to comprehend, and yet is the very foundation of Christian truth. Although skeptics may ridicule it as a mathematical impossibility, it is nevertheless a basic doctrine of Scripture as well as profoundly realistic in both universal experience and in the scientific understanding of the cosmos.

Both Old and New Testaments teach the Unity and the Trinity of the Godhead. The idea that there is only one God, who created all things, is repeatedly emphasized in such Scriptures as Isaiah 45:18:

"For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; ...I am the Lord; and there is none else."

A New Testament example is James 2:19:

"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well; the devils also believe, and tremble."

The three persons of the Godhead are, at the same time, noted in such Scriptures as Isaiah 48:16:

"I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me."

The speaker in this verse is obviously God, and yet He says He has been sent both by The Lord God (that is, the Father) and by His Spirit (that is, the Holy Spirit).

The New Testament doctrine of the Trinity is evident in such a verse as John 15:26, where the Lord Jesus said:

"But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father, He shall testify of me."

Then there is the baptismal formula:

"baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matthew 28:19).

One name (God) -- yet three names!

JESUS -- That Jesus, as the only-begotten Son of God, actually claimed to be God, equal with the Father, is clear from numerous Scriptures. For example, He said:

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" (Revelation 1:8).

HOLY SPIRIT -- Some cults falsely teach that the Holy Spirit is an impersonal divine influence of some kind, but the Bible teaches that He is a real person, just as are the Father and the Son. Jesus said:

"Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak; and he will show you things to come" (John 16:13).

TRI-UNITY -- The teaching of the Bible concerning the Trinity might be summarized thus. God is a Tri-unity, with each Person of the Godhead equally and fully and eternally God. Each is necessary, and each is distinct, and yet all are one. The three Persons appear in a logical, causal order. The Father is the unseen, omnipresent Source of all being, revealed in and by the Son, experienced in and by the Holy Spirit. The Son proceeds from the Father, and the Spirit from the Son. With reference to God's creation, the Father is the Thought behind it, the Son is the Word calling it forth, and the Spirit is the Deed making it a reality.


We "see" God and His great salvation in the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, then "experience" their reality by faith, through the indwelling presence of His Holy Spirit.

Though these relationships seem paradoxical, and to some completely impossible, they are profoundly realistic, and their truth is ingrained deep in man's nature. Thus, men have always sensed first the truth that God must be "out there," everywhere present and the First Cause of all things, but they have corrupted this intuitive knowledge of the Father into pantheism and ultimately into naturalism.

Similarly, men have always felt the need to "see" God in terms of their own experience and understanding, but this knowledge that God must reveal Himself has been distorted into polytheism and idolatry. Men have thus continually erected "models" of God, sometimes in the form of graven images, sometimes even in the form of philosophical systems purporting to represent ultimate reality.

Finally, men have always known that they should be able to have communion with their Creator and to experience His presence "within." But this deep intuition of the Holy Spirit has been corrupted into various forms of false mysticism and fanaticism, and even into spiritism and demonism. Thus, the truth of God's tri-unity is ingrained in man's very nature, but he has often distorted it and substituted a false god in its place.

Answer 9

No one ever said they were the same person.. I get tired of typing it all in but ok one more time.. The Father is God he is all the God that there is. The Son is God and He is all the God that there is. The Holy Spirit is God He is all the God there is. There is only one God..
God teaches us how this can be in nature, The 3 dimensions of space, height, width, and breadth. A geometric plane that is height is infinite therefore contains all space. Height is all space.. Width, again a geometric plane is infinite therefore contains all space.. Breadth, (should I say it again, yes) a geometric plane is infinite therefore contains all space. These three dimensions are one space that is infinite and contains all space.. separate dimensions one space.. Three separate beings one God..

Are we clear now?

Answer 10

Its true

but you are having trouble with the hypostatic union not the trinity
the hypostatic union is that Jesus had two natures divine and unfallen man, the God man in a sense
Jesus is God who took on an additional human nature.

Jesus is fully man and fully God, so alot of what you are saying is because it refers to his human attributes

consider this Jesus said
tear down this temple and in three days I will raise it again

he was human enough to die
God enough to raise himself from the dead

he was both