Should anyone espousing creationist ideas be barred from (most) scienctific and acedimic jobs? (read first)?

Question

The only exceptions I can think of is teaching theology, maybe history. My question is a criticism of the lack of scientific judgment indicated by accepting the creationist position. It goes to qualifications for a job, similar to asking if someone who accepts Vitalism should be teaching biology. I am not attacking faith, only asking if it should have certain consequences.

Answer 1

I think most creationists avoid fields like science and stick with more the humanities type fields.

Though if I was in college, I'd like to take a Creationist exam. Just write "God made it that way" and hand in your paper.

Answer 2

In America, there is the freedom of speech. It's a dwindling right in these days. If someone wishes to support creationist ideas, they should be supporting them with scientific evidence. Having been around the Creation Science community for a good while, I can confidently say that while I am not a scientist, they have a serious degree of scientific evidence to support what they say.

Because someone accepts Creationism views, it doesn't mean they lack scientific judgment. Creationism is a point of view as valid as evolution. Creationists would say it's far more scientific than evolution. The truth is that neither has a legitimate claim to being a scientific theory. Both are speculations scientificly, since there is no way to test either idea. You can't repeat evolution, and no scientist is the Almighty God. I can confidently say that there has been a great deal of mounting evidence against evolution in the years, such as irreducible complexity, laws of genetics, and the third law of thermodynamics of course have been around for years. However, more specific evidence has come in recent years, such as the moon's surface, the magnetic poles of the earth, and the size of comets. St. Helens proved that massive canyons can be formed in a couple of hours, fossils of human bones have been found inside of dinosaurs, Neanderthal models have been found to be likely in the case of a person living for several hundred years. The list goes on. Even the concept of microevolution has come under serious scrutiny due to the fact that microevolution involves species losing, not gaining DNA in order to bring out different features.

I do not set out to attack evolution theories here, what I wish to illustrate is that if we wish to bar creationist theories, we should also bar evolution theories, due to the fact that both are based off of scientific speculation, neither is a testable theory.

Personally I think it would do our students well to teach both beliefs thoroughly, make them think for themselves rather than just take in information.

Answer 3

What about Quantum Physics? Is that not science? It also is a way to prove all life is connected and made of the same energy. People should be free to hear all theories at this point. No one knows for sure. Science is not all facts there. It is a lot of educated guesses. Like religion that relies on old text that was written by men that were heavy with ego. I don't think faith or lack of it should have any consequences. Everyone should decide for themselves after reviewing the materials and doing their own inner searching. To dismiss a higher power without every doing any personal research is as ignorant as accepting a higher power without doing personal research.
Love & Light
Sharon
One Planet = One People

Answer 4

there is nothing outside of creationism, (evolution, big bang theory, etc.) that has been proven and does not have its fallacies so why would anyone that believes those things have any more scientific judgement than a creationist?? So far there is no THEORY that has held water and even many who have studied and taught evolution have said out of their own mouths that the theory was ridiculous, it was just better for them to believe that than having to believe in and accept there is a God. I think there is a major lack of judgement and reason in those that accept the THEORY of evloution as fact. Short of anyone actually being there at the conception of the earth or having a home movie as proof- according to your question- no one is qualified to teach it.
So far in my studies, everything in nature and all science support the bible and vice versa - so NO creationists should not be barred from scientific and academic jobs- that's just a ludricrous, judgemental and irresponsible statement.

Answer 5

Absolutely not! You could just as easily pose your question this way: "should anyone espousing unproven theories be barred from most scientific and academic jobs -- shouldn't only those who know absolute truth be researching or teaching?"

Remember, the Theory of Evolution is just that -- a THEORY. It is unproven, as alluded to by its name. Until the "missing link" is found, it will remain unproven.

Foisting up an unproven theory and presenting it as scientific fact is never a good thing. Nor does it demonstrate a higher level of mental competence than someone who holds a different belief.

Answer 6

This doesn't make any sense at all, and I believe in evolution!

While a creationist molecular biologist might not be the first person you hire, who cares if a computer scientist who is to design a hardware abstraction layer for your computer operating system is a creationist? You might not hire a creationist paleontologist for your Maiosaurus dig, but on the other hand, who cares if a southern baptist geologist specializing in precious minerals is leading your natural resource exploration team?

That's like flipping your argument on its head and saying scientists should be banned from being ordained deacons - really, why would the church consider such a thing unless the scientist was a fetal stem cell lobbyist?

Answer 7

Lack of scientific judgment?

1. What about the huge gaps in the fossil record which shouldn't be there if evolution is real?

2. Evolution is a theory, and only that. We can subscribe to it or not, as we wish. Where's the 'absolute truth' on the basis of which to make a judgment?

I think it shows a much greater lack of scientific judgment to treat evolution as fact.

Answer 8

I am
1) not christian
2)deeply believe in Science and the Scientific method

Having said the above what kind of crap is this?!

What difference does it make to one's job? Religion and science are not preemptive concepts. If someone is discriminated against based on religious beliefs, well what else need be said?

What should be important is a single issue: is a person competent to do a job? If the answer is yes, then nothing else matters. If the answer is no, then nothing else matters? Spirituality is the last determinant of competence.

Answer 9

Wow.This is truly the enlightened mind speaking.What happened to critical review.Science if you don't believe what we say we will not allow you to seek any other answers.
The only part of evolution that has been proved is that animals and plants adapt.Mathematicians would tell you the likelihood of life spontaneously arising with the method science provides is impossible.Not to mention that a creature that had no ability for flight would develop it while creatures with the ability lose it.

Answer 10

When the Greeks ruled the world, the young Hebrew Priests were allowed to go to Greece to be educated in their systems of higher learning. It was though that this would not effect their religious beliefs, but it did, and ever since they have thought that the Messiah would make his kingdom here on earth and that they would be the rulers of a temporal kingdom. Science? Creation actually happened. It happened exactly as described in the Bible, and no other way.

Answer 11

I believe the enriching part of an investigation or an academic job is the variety of propositions and theories to get to a result.

There are no laws of the creationism nor evolutionism, they're all theories. Untill someone is "right"; we are all right, and I embrace everyone's opinions and postures to have a good glance of reality.

After all, it is said that we can only understand the world when we look through everyone's eyes.