Knowledge or understanding of the death? Eve choice was made only by using Knowledge or she had full understanding what exactly death means before she eat the fruit?
Was her free will 100% pure and intelegent or it was some way limited. Things to coneder: THere was not a single death or example of that in Eden. There was tree of life in the midst of the Eden. ( eating fruit of tree of life would make them ethernal, than eat fruit of Knowledge).
I am looking what does ppl think on this. I am not interesting in answers that says you have to have a faith. Faith is based on Knowledge not on understanding.
2006-07-13 03:56:35 · 8 answers · asked by PicassoInActions 3 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
A thermostat has knowledge of a temperature change, but not understanding. A flower has knowledge of the rising sun, but no understanding.
2006-07-13 03:57:36 · update #1
TO make a point. I am not asking was Eve right or wrong. I am not interesting if she obey or disobey ( she had no knowledge if obeing is good or bad). I am jsut interesting in the view of understanding. Did she knew what death is , did she understand it? I know Islam Budism, Daoism.... do exist but i have no understanding of them.
2006-07-13 04:08:41 · update #2
firstly a where do u know that a flower does not have an understanding? that just shows us that we people dont have "understanding" of the things around and we basically can't have. because we dont understand i.e ; flower we suppose that thay dont have an understanding...
having an understanding requires a knowledge weather this is gained scientifically or sensually dividng these are like "cutting an apple's front without cutting its back" (Ferdinand Sassure) Eve (strory based or in narrative) didnt have the choice to understand what will happen; that causes curiosity. so an interpretation to this comes in three levels: a) god examined human control over itself b) god trapped human kind c) this is a narrative story. now choosing one depends u know!! 3 levels of connotations a) denotation b) connotation c) referrent (the objective presentation) (according to Roland Barthes) and this goes on and on....
2006-07-13 04:12:50 · answer #1 · answered by hi-frequency 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It looks like you are trying to define understanding as higher or better knowledge. For me understanding something is having knowledge about it. There are different ways of understanding things: death could be a step to heaven or just an end of your body functions. It depends on your beliefs as to what life and death is. So your question is: what did Adam and Eve know about the death, how did they understand it? And my answer is: we don't know. What they knew though was that they were doing something against the God's will: something that was not allowed. You're in the same situation commiting a crime if you;ve never been in prison before: you don't really know how it is there. There is nobody to tell us how it is to be dead, neither.
2006-07-13 10:59:56 · answer #2 · answered by jacek s 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I do not think anyone knows for certain how much knowledge or understanding Eve had because The Bible is not a word for word type of book. If everything that happened and was said was placed into a book not all the books on this planet could keep up nor read nor gain much knowledge or understanding. maybe not so much faith in this case but acceptance that there is no way of knowing.
2006-07-13 11:03:33 · answer #3 · answered by Savage 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Is it reasonable to believe that God told them the punishment for disobedience was death and at the same time, they did not understand what death was? On what basis would we contend they had never seen death? They no doubt saw animals dying inasmuch as animals were never meant to live forever. So how do you say there was not a single death in Eden? Her free will was not limited. She had sufficient knowledge upon which to form a belief and upon which to make a decision. They both knew precisely what death was.
They were armed with everything they needed, including knowledge and understanding. They chose what they chose.
2006-07-13 11:06:53 · answer #4 · answered by Hannah J Paul 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The best source to consult on this matter is Paradise Lost, and the literature criticism surrounding it. I prescribe to the Lewis school of thought that man had to fall to be redeemed to be raised above the angels, or the fortuante fall arguement. Others view no predestination at all. It comes down to grace versus faith.
2006-07-13 11:01:33 · answer #5 · answered by lundstroms2004 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Eve was deceived by a lie of the devil- disgusied as a serpent. The serpent told her that she would be as "God" knowing good AND evil. I don't think she has a clue about death- wasn't thinking of that. Only wanted what she couldn't do- so often we do to. We often "want what we can't have". She sinned not because she thought it out, or weighed the consequences, but she sinned because she choose to.
2006-07-13 11:00:33 · answer #6 · answered by Miss America 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
true source of real knowledge is one's own heart,which is unlimited/infinite,where as understanding is limited as per one's mind,as u have put thestory of Eden and Eve,they too listened to their minds and acted accordingly,ignoring commands orignating from the heart and faced the consequences,prudence was there but they did't used since it was predestined.
2006-07-13 11:08:30 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
They had free will, and understanding that what they did was wrong. They may not have known the exact consequesnses , but they knew what they were doing. They disobeyed God, and understood that.
2006-07-13 11:01:30 · answer #8 · answered by Vengeful_Hippie (AM) 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋