You say that all mankind are sinners, it is hard for me to believe that (How can you say that Newborn babies Thousands who die before reaching the age of five Because of diseases in Many poor African countries are sinners)
Anyhow you believe that all mankind are sinners on the Hypothesis of Two persons
Known as Adam & Eve who committed a sin millions of years ago and we are all their descendents and hence some how we carry their legacy of sins
·First Adam and Eve were normal human beings, they were not supernatural, and how many kids could they have produced in those times, remember in the past average human life expectancy or life was around 35 years, so the belief that they traveled around the world and gave birth to different children in different continents can be easily debated.
·Secondly were Adam and Eve White, Black or Multiracial, How can you explain So many different Races of people being off springs of Adam and Eve who are generally depicted and believed to be White.(did they give Birth to Chinese ,Asian ,African and European predecessors)
·Thirdly this is the most important argument, In modern times we have discovered DNA Testing, Anybody can easily identify any persons relatives (father, brother, sister etc) If we all were descendents of common parents and Evolution was lies than all of us would have a similar DNA Come now No Black man is related to a White man on purely biological DNA testing.(many Muslims marry with their cousins, Genghis Khan & his son Who Raped so many women more than 6% of people bearing his Y Chromosome ,come do we all bear a same chromosome
We should all be bearing Adams Chromosome)
Don’t give me religious Quotations and don’t say have faith, or else I Will say eat my ****, have faith you will become immortal
Just a simple argument will suffice
2006-07-13
02:58:18
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I'll take some of those... Oh, and you say not to quote scripture and that's difficult to completely defend our position, because our position is based on scripture! So I'll "kind of" qoute scripture and then explain it...
"You say that all mankind are sinners, it is hard for me to believe that (How can you say that Newborn babies Thousands who die before reaching the age of five Because of diseases in Many poor African countries are sinners)"
We believe that "the sins of the father are passed down to the son and through the generations" and that "we are all born into sin" -- this means that we do not escape sin. We are born imperfect, we are born into fault. Much like "traits" are passed down from parents to children, so is sin.
"Anyhow you believe that all mankind are sinners on the Hypothesis of Two persons Known as Adam & Eve who committed a sin millions of years ago and we are all their descendents and hence some how we carry their legacy of sins"
A strict interpretation of scripture, that I believe, does not have Adam and Eve living millions of years ago, but about 6,000 years ago. I've addressed this topic numerous times on this board and don't expect you to change your mind from this page--and I don't want to stray off topic.
As far as carrying their legacy of sins, that's true. I also carry the legacy of the sins of my father and grandfathers. That's kind of the way it goes, much like I also carry the legacy of the good traits of my father and grandfathers.
"First Adam and Eve were normal human beings, they were not supernatural, and how many kids could they have produced in those times, remember in the past average human life expectancy or life was around 35 years, so the belief that they traveled around the world and gave birth to different children in different continents can be easily debated."
While I agree that Adam and Eve were not supernatural human beings, I do not believe that they were normal--especially by our standards. Adam and Eve were created as fully-grown adults. They could speak the first day they lived. And if you figure that they have about a 20 or 30 year jump on reproduciton, they certainly have a head start.
Secondly, scripture tells us that people lived much longer before the flood--before the flood, the world was very different. It's recorded that Adam lived well over 900 years. With much less pollution, the possibility of reduction of UV rays, living a vegetarian lifestyle, and quite possibly twice the atmospheric pressure and thus twice the oxygen, it is a feasable argument that people did live much longer.
"Secondly were Adam and Eve White, Black or Multiracial, How can you explain So many different Races of people being off springs of Adam and Eve who are generally depicted and believed to be White.(did they give Birth to Chinese, Asian, African and European predecessors)"
Actually, I believe that the various races came about after Noah and his family set out to re-populate the earth. It's possible then that various dominant traits (skin color, hair and eyes, body shape, etc) were developed through the various environmental conditions. This concept of variation of traits is often mis-labeled as "evolution" but regardless of what you call it, it does happen and has been observed through time.
Why are Adam and Eve generally depicted to be white? Because people in the planet are generally white. If you go to different cultures you will find that the stories of "the first couple" is always thought to be more physically like that particular ethnic group: African, Native American, Asian, etc. Racist? Probably, but I don't want to go there.
"Thirdly this is the most important argument, In modern times we have discovered DNA Testing, Anybody can easily identify any persons relatives (father, brother, sister etc) If we all were descendents of common parents and Evolution was lies than all of us would have a similar DNA Come now No Black man is related to a White man on purely biological DNA testing.(many Muslims marry with their cousins, Genghis Khan & his son Who Raped so many women more than 6% of people bearing his Y Chromosome ,come do we all bear a same chromosome
We should all be bearing Adams Chromosome)"
Have you looked at what you believe very hard? The theory of evolution states that all "life" on the planet came from "one" common ancestor, and therefore all "life" on the planet should have the same chromosomes! Yet we know that plants, animals, and people (although made of the same building blocks) have different chromosome patterns.
There are those proponents of evolution that believe that life evolved in more than one place in history, so there could be multiple branches of life. Well, 1) it's statistically impossible for spontaneous generation of life to happen once, let alone twice, and 2) even if it did then there would only be a handful of chromosome patterns throughout all life (by your argument, anyway).
No, your argument #3--admitted by you as your most important--isn't based in scientific reality. Both the learned conservative creationist (i.e. me) and the hard-core evolutionist (i.e. not me) will state that through time there have been various imperfections and deviations in the reproductive process, thus giving us the variations we have today.
There. I didn't directly quote scripture. I referred to it at times and then explained the belief behind it. And I never told you to have faith either... was that a good enough argument for you?
2006-07-13 03:03:07
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answered by Paul McDonald 6
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Evidentally you want to know and have studied (from your own hypothesis) what you think all of this is.
Why not just read. Don't be judgemental. There are SO many things that happen in everyday life that people accept as truth and really have NO CLUE if it is or not. If you have such a problem then don't ask the questions. Leave it alone. But evidentally you are intrigued by it, so study it. Knowledge is power.
Adam and Eve were 'pure' and actually life expectancy was that (before they sinned) there was no death. But after they sinned, people lived to be in their hundreds, but the sin brought death, thereby that is why life expectancy has been cut down considerably. They had several children after Cain and Able. But how the other people got here for Adam and Eve's children to procreate with, I have no clue, unless they were into incest which is disgusting.
Uhm do you know of any science lab that HAS Adam's DNA!!?? Could you let everyone know, so we can all get checked out!!
2006-07-13 03:08:52
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answered by ~2Sxy4u!~ 4
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okay well, Its gonna be kinda hard to answer these questions without using some religious ways and stuff. we believe that all people are sinners because thats what our bible tells us. but the bible tells us that ALL children go to the kingdom of heaven with God. so every child who dies no matter what the religion is they go to heaven. that ends at a certain point when children become old enough to learn and understand fully 100% about christianity and what it means. noone know when that is though i suppose. For the rest of that question I guess I dont really know what you are asking.
No Adam and Eve were not supernatural, but they did have the Lord working with them. They had children, who had children, who had children, who had children and so on and so forth. Eve herself probably had several children, she may have had children with her son, who knows! the point is the earth was populated the same way it would be if everyone was killed off and only 2 people left. Eventually over thousands of years the earth would get back to where it was. As for the different races. Its a matter of where each individual went to live. Over time they adjusted to their climate and their languages, skin color, way of life, and all that other stuff began to develop. Same kind of concept as evolution just not that we can from apes. Most christians have to believe in some form of evolution. But we do not believe that our origin is from apes. We also believe that God can do anything and I am sure he helped these processes along.
For the most part, if we dated back far enough, then yes we would all share some form of the same DNA and what not. But you gotta understand, this is comming from thousands of years ago. DNA mutates and can be changed. And yes white people are related to black people and do share the same DNA. A lot of people stem from the same family line. I dont know what race you are but say you are black for my demonstration. If 400 years ago your great great great great great great and so on and so fourth grandfather slept with a white woman and had a child then half of your ancenstry would be white if dated back far enough even though you are black.
The whole truth of the matter is that as christians, sure we question the same things you do and we sometimes have doubts and we wonder why things are the way they are too, but at the end of it all, we believe what we believe and have answers for any of your questions simply because we just believe and we accept those things that we have come to find as fact.
2006-07-13 04:26:26
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answered by raemarie02 1
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To start with all mankind are born sinners - but the grace of God allows for the conviction of the Holy Spirit to draw one to salvation, therefore children usually don't face hell as they have not been drawn of the Holy Spirit as to sin; unlike most any young person or adult.
Adam and Eve were the original two people, the spreading of people came from the tower of Babel, which you can read about in the Bible and this is where we developed different languages and adaptations that lead to blood alterations - especially as interbreeding has always been a part of the cultures of many countries and only tabooed in our western, modern civilization.
This ought to give you good study reference as to how to go about looking deeper into your questions that are actually very common sense questions, with some very common sense answers.
Good luck in your search for answers.
2006-07-13 03:28:03
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answered by dph_40 6
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Is good to have questions as well even better went you find your own answers to such questions and in your own analyze each one of then before asking some one else, for an answer. Intelligence is something Universal as well that knowledge is Universal, God best gift to man(woman), to my knowledge is the gift of Intelligence, thou, before the beginning and the creation of the material World, God create the World of living energies, negative and positive energies, energies that were emanate from elements, such as Water, Fire, Dust and Wind, and others such as solid elements, the main idea was to search for a physical entity base in the elements of matter and use matter as the base mater for the creation of the material World, the equality for positive and negative energies to become and born into the material World, it become as necessary and will be achieved by the lost of paradise because of the original sin,which by all means is Sex, thou, just to make it even for the negative energies that will continue to press into become and compete with God for the control of matter, which God will free into a new existence for matter to achieved changes without the need to accomplish only some more mutations, there is were the gift of Intelligence has become so helpful for many negative energies to share with positive energies the gift of life and the experience of the forms in the material World.
2006-07-13 03:16:13
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answered by paradiseemperatorbluepinguin 5
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Man you need to have your head purged. Its full of it.
2006-07-13 03:01:54
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answered by Anonymous
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You asked this yesterday. Why again?
2006-07-13 03:03:01
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answered by Jim Darwin's Adversary 2
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