The death of Jesus' disciples?

Question

Jesus had 12 disciples (Matthias replaced Judas). 11 out of the 12 died from being martyred (John being the only one to live due to being exiled). They were each individually killed for telling people the gospel, that Jesus was the Christ and came to save. Their deaths are a historical fact supported by several non Christian sources.
A lot of people say that what Jesus said has been changed down through the years, and he originally didn’t claim to be Christ and God Himself. Why would his disciples have chosen to die for the gospel hadn’t even been “made up” yet?

Answer 1

God question friend. I'm curious to see what others have to say.

Answer 2

Actually, 11 were not martyred. Many died of old age. Some people believe that one ended up in India. John did live, and his little house in Turkey remains standing. I saw it, last summer.

I'd like to know your sources, esp. the non- Christian ones, as they seem to know a lot more than any other historian or theologian of the last 2000 years. Care to share?

Josephus is very suspect, as he was a Jewisn historian who wrote to please the Roman rulers.

We don't even have any substantiated facts as to the historical existence of Jesus, himself.

Jesus did not claim to be the Christ or God, himself. The Trinity was created at the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E.

Answer 3

because 'eternal life' isn't the ending of the best people after lack of life. The bible says it is eternal life: John 17:3 Now it is eternal life: that they'd know you, the in common words real God, and Jesus Christ, whom you've despatched. From dirt to dirt is the destiny of the flesh. not the spirit. Jesus life in the international replaced into to, partly, journey what guy studies. that consists of the discomfort of lack of life. Mankind isn't inspired with He who has the means over the spirit. for this reason the resurrection of the flesh replaced into shown - so as that guy should know Gods means. God typically makes use of the actual international to objective to describe the religious realm. Marriage, life, and shortage of life are some examples of this.

Answer 4

Jesus did not claim to be God, But the Anointed Son of God. The Disciples knew He was the Messiah the Anointed son of God the Christ. Anointed with Gods Holy Spirit . God is a Spirit and only gives birth to the Spirit. Not flesh . the Body is only a Temple of God The Holy Spirit.

Answer 5

Are you going to cite a source for your claim that "11 of the 12 died from being martyred..." or are we supposed to accept it on faith? Unless you can give biblical reference to your claim, your conclusion falls apart.

You can find a million web pages with man's speculation as to the death of each of the 12, but no biblical reference, just as you can find the number and the names of the Maggi that came to visit Jesus as a child outside the bible.

Answer 6

Jesus did not open say He was Christ, but He did do many, like the disciples, the samaritan woman, and even the the womans that walked with Him. Only His sheep knew Him. He said it so:


Joh 10:26 "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand. 30 I and [my] Father are one."

They know my voice.
This is the characteristic of the sheep of the east, they know the shepherd's voice. There was once a traveller in the east who denied that they knew the voice of the shepherd, and contended that it was the voice they knew; and to prove it, they changed clothes. The person called the sheep, and they moved not; but when the shepherd called them, they instantly followed him. Now, this is just the way with Christ and his sheep. Christ may be disguised, but faith hears his voice. The first time they hear his voice is the time of conversion. You remember Zaccheus, he was up in the sycamore tree, and he might think, "Christ's word will not reach me"; but Christ said to him, "Come down, Zaccheus, for today I must abide at thy house." The voice of the shepherd reached him. This was the first day that Zaccheus heard the shepherd's voice. You remember Lydia, she sat among the Grecian matrons by the river side, and heard Paul preach. Someone opened her heart, and said, "Come away"; it was the voice of the shepherd. "The Lord opened the heart of Lydia to attend unto the things that were spoken." It was the outward voice of Paul, but it was the inward voice of Christ.
Again, all that are Christ's hear his voice in the time of duty. They hear a voice behind them saying, "This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the left." They hear the voice of Christ directing them how to go. "The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.


This is only some examples of how the Lord Christ was letting know the people that is was Charist. And sadly only few accepted.

Answer 7

I agree! conmen don't die for a lie..they were once fishermen who disappeard at Jesus' arrest, trial, and cruxifiction...yet after the resurection they DIED for Jesus Christ. The NEW testament is 99.5% accurate as the copies from about 120 A.D! (synonymes and simila sentence and word style)
in those days "son of" meant "from the order of" thus making jesus equal to God that is why the jews tried to stone jesus for making himself
EQUAL to God.

Answer 8

Well Pilate tried to let him go and asked him if he was this Christ that the Jewish priest accused him of as heresy. His reply was that you will see him coming in the power and clouds of glory. Pilate had no choice but to continue with preceedings. Pilate wrote letters about Jesus and that event.

Answer 9

Are you asking if Jesus was a fake and brainwashed his Disciples? I know I would not die for something I did not believe in.

Answer 10

Why did all the Jim Jone's followers drink the Kool Aid?