Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16] "
This confuses me. This means that God has planned every single detail of my life - from the minute I am born, to the minute I expire.
If this is the case, does that not mean that prayer is useless? I mean, God has it all planned out - so if I am going to die from some disease, whats the point in praying about it? Also, if God has this all planned out, then does that not mean that every abortion is God's plan? He knew when the fetus was to be concieved, and He knows when it is to be aborted then, if the Bible is true. That being the case, does this also mean that the woman having the abortion and doctor performing the abortion are blameless, as it is God's plan? Hitler killing millions of Jews - God's plan?? Any murderer at all then, according to this belief, is not sinning - they are acting out a part of God's plan. The person they killed - God had that planned.
Anyone else trip over these points too??
2006-07-12
06:57:41
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Seeing as everyone is baggin on me for MY translation of this passage, I shall make this clear - this is a direct quote from "A Purpose Driven Life" - a book written by a Christian, telling us how to live according to the Bible. So, blame that as*hole, not me...its his quote, not mine...
2006-07-12
07:30:54 ·
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they will argue that God gave us "free will" to get around this. However, if God truly knows all, then He knows everything that you will ever do before you're born. Therefore you have no choice, you have to do everything exactly that way.
God is responsible for all man's evil through His prior knowledge and complete inaction.
2006-07-12 07:03:25
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answered by Kenny ♣ 5
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Wow ... when one engages in such word-twisting and in adding words to Bible verses that aren't there, it must mean that his/her central argument must be pretty weak.
There's nothing in Psalm 139, or anywhere else in the Bible, that says that each and every single minute of each and every single day of everyone's life is planned out by God ahead of time.
Psalm 139 simply says that God knows us and cares about us from the beginning of our lives to the end. That's it.
Taking your thought process to its logical conclusion, we could justify a lot more terrible acts besides abortion.
Indeed, one could justify anything at all.
Of course, the Bible teaches that there are lots of acts that are unjustifiable, and nothing in Ps. 139 cancels those teachings out.
2006-07-12 14:07:56
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answered by Anonymous
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Psalms 139:16 Your eyes beheld my unformed substance. In your book were written all the days that were formed for me, when none of them as yet existed.
If you read the entire chapter, it talks about how God knew and knows everything that happened and that will happen. It doesn't mean that God made any choices for us, but we make our own choices. God exists, he just is, where as we live in the here and now. God allows us, people on earth to make choices. He may or may not stop something from happening, such as your friend from getting sick, or something, but he doesn't take the free will out of our lives. It is we who choose him.
If we truly knew how God thought, then there wouldn't be much use of us believing in him b/c we'd be god's our self, but we aren't and we can't think like him, therefor it's impossible to even imagine what God's thought process is like.
2006-07-12 14:09:57
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answered by Anonymous
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Well some of us, those who believe in reincarnation, think this is karma. That you plan your own life and situation to help atone for what was not right in another lifetime. And that everyone of us is a God in our own right. That heaven or the next life has many levels and until you have atoned for all of your "sins" against other people you will finally get to the point where you will no longer have to do this again.
2006-07-12 14:03:11
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answered by olderandwiser 4
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THATS what the writtings in the Bible do, Confuse everyone the people that wrote it were really messing with everyone. The churches do the same thing, confuse and get everyone stressed about their life and them selves. I took my four Bibles and I thru them away. Best place for that book.
2006-07-12 14:03:37
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answered by g-day mate 5
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Foreknowledge: To know before hand. God planed before the foundation of the world that Jesus Christ would come and die for the sins of the world. He planed it and when it happen He knew it because He planed it. Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Only saved people are predestinated. To be elected or chosen means to chosen to service not salvation. 1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
Can people reject the counsel of God? Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: Yes you can reject the counsel of God. Luke 7:30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.
Sovereign or sovereignty of God or as the Calvinist us the word sovereign grace of God: These words are not found in the King James Bible. The word sovereign came about from a French word in the 12th century and referred to a political king on the earth. John Calvin used this word in his doctrine because he was a Frenchman. The Calvinist use this word to prove that all events about by eternal degree. Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Isaiah 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. He declared it, He did not determine or make it happen. What was His counsel in these verses? His counsel was that Israel would have a kingdom on earth.
Did Jesus teach that things happen by chance. Yes Luke 10:30 And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. Luke 10:31 And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.1 Samuel :6:9: And see, if it goeth up by the way of his own coast to Beth-shemesh, then he hath done us this great evil: but if not, then we shall know that is not his hand that smote us; it was a chance that happened to us. Matthew 11:21 Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
Can we determine things to happen within yourself. Yes, 2 Corinthians 2:1 But I determined this with myself, that I would not come again to you in heaviness.
2006-07-12 14:09:54
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answered by Ray W 6
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this is the problem with the bible....people get hold of it and twist it always...............you are plugging in your wanna be translation.....it also can mean God saw you before before you were save thru God's grace....all your faults were recorded in those days before then......
What version of the bible are you using? i wanna read YOUR translation
2006-07-12 14:20:17
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answered by Anonymous
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