the holy trinity?

Question

Is the holy trinity real, or just a way to explain God, in a kind of simplified way? Who first mentioned the trinity idea?

Answer 1

Tertullian came up with the concept.

Answer 2

The trinity is both real and a way to explain God. It's not really a simplified way because as far as I can see the human mind cannot fully grasp the full beauty of the trinity. All I know about the origin of the trinity is that it was by a council of religious head-people. Although the Bible never actually says trinity it implies to it and it can be inferred by taking the whole bible into account.

Answer 3

I will add to Co-pilots response.

God has revealed himself in three persons.
Each person of the Godhead has different functional roles in the Godhead, yet they are one in essence.

God the Son is no less God than God the Father. The Holy Spirit is no less God than God the Son. The Holy Spirit is no less God than God the Father.

God the Father, Initiated salvation
God the Son, the procured it.
God the Holy Spirt, secures it.

I know this does not make sense to you because there is so much more to this..

Although the Bible says that the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are God, it also clearly says that there is only one God. How can we believe all three are God and still believe there is only one God? I have no explanation that is completely satisfying.

Therefore, we can simply recognize the doctrine of the trinity is one of those aspects of God we are not going to be able to fully understand with our incredibly limited minds.

Do we really think we can comprehend the magnitude of a being who has created a universe with more than a million billion galaxies; where each galaxy has hundred of billions of stars? Are we naive enough to think we can understand the complexity of a being who created a universe where every ounce has more than a 100 million trillion highly organized atoms? (Source: National Geographic, June 1983. ChemCom, Kendall/Hunt Publishing, 1993.) I think this complexity of God is part of the reason we find the trinity so difficult to understand.

Think about this for a moment: a single cell bacterium has no capacity to comprehend or understand human beings. Likewise, even the simplest aspects of God are way beyond our comprehension. Of course, the difference between God and us is far greater than the difference between the bacterium and us.

I am not saying the trinity is correct simply because we can’t understand it. That would be wrong and inappropriate. However, it would be just as wrong to say the trinity does not exist simply because it is not understandable.

Very few people can understand quantum physics. The theories and concepts of quantum physics are too complex for most people. In fact, some of the theories seem ridiculous or totally illogical to the untrained eye. Yet, quantum physics is used everyday to make our lives better. We must be careful not to discredit something simply because we can’t understand it.

The real question is this. What must we do to receive eternal life? Will there be a judgement? Are we already condemned as the Bible says in the Gospel of John? Are we Dead men walkiing, waiting for sentence to be carried out?

What is the Holy spirit's, and God the Son's role in saving you from the wrath that is to come?

God is patient with us. He is calling us to repent, because he has appointed a day where he will judge the world in righteousness.

If any of this is true, we all owe it to ourselves to consider what the Bible says because the consequences are too great.

I pray God gives you insight into these things.

Answer 4

Hinduism had a Trinity (Trimurti) first: Brahma (the Creator), Vishnu (the Preserver), and Shiva (the Destroyer/Regenerator). This corresponds to the Christian Trinity, where God created, Jesus saives, and the Holy Spirit is called a Regenrator in Titus. The pagan was useful to Gentile Christians who had a problem, once they elevated the man Jesus to Godhood. It destroyed the monotheism that Judaism insists on. So by making a Trinity they coukld have it both ways.

Answer 5

The trinity is a carry over from pagan beliefs all the way back to Babylon, deities were worshiped in threes such as Egypt's Amon,Mut, and Horus or Horus, Osiris, and Isis or Isis, Horus, and Nephthys. Asshur, the chief god of the Assyrians, was portrayed as having three heads, in Babylon one triad was Shamash(the sun)Sin(the moon), and Ishtar(a star).The trinity was not fully assimilated into Christianity until the end of the 4th century A.D. The Catholic church in the New Catholic Encyclopedia admits, The majority of New Testament texts reveal God's spirit as something, NOT SOMEONE: this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the POWER of God. In other words, the Catholic church says the holy spirit is God's active power not a person, so the trinity does not really exist. It was assimilated from older pagan beliefs.

Answer 6

The idea of the Trinity a name given to explain one of God's attributes. the oneness of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Answer 7

THE TRINITY CONCEPT IS DECEPTION AND GOD AND JESUS IS ONE ONLY IN THE WAY THEY THINK, THE PLAN FOR MANKIND. IT IS GOD THE FATHER AND JESUS THE SON. GOD IS A FAMILY AND IS REPRODUCING HISSELF WITH THOSE WHO KEEP HIS LAWS.
It may first be noted that the words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (KJ) found in older translations at 1 John 5:7 are actually spurious additions to the original text. A footnote in The Jerusalem Bible, a Catholic translation, says that these words are “not in any of the early Greek MSS [manuscripts], or any of the early translations, or in the best MSS of the Vulg[ate] itself.” A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, by Bruce Metzger (1975, pp. 716-718), traces in detail the history of the spurious passage. It states that the passage is first found in a treatise entitled Liber Apologeticus, of the fourth century, and that it appears in Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts of the Scriptures, beginning in the sixth century. Modern translations as a whole, both Catholic and Protestant, do not include them in the main body of the text, because of recognizing their spurious nature.—RS, NE, NAB.

Other evidence of its impersonal nature. Further evidence against the idea of personality as regards the holy spirit is the way it is used in association with other impersonal things, such as water and fire (Mt 3:11; Mr 1:8); and Christians are spoken of as being baptized “in holy spirit.” (Ac 1:5; 11:16) Persons are urged to become “filled with spirit” instead of with wine. (Eph 5:18) So, too, persons are spoken of as being ‘filled’ with it along with such qualities as wisdom and faith (Ac 6:3, 5; 11:24) or joy (Ac 13:52); and holy spirit is inserted, or sandwiched in, with a number of such qualities at 2 Corinthians 6:6. It is most unlikely that such expressions would be made if the holy spirit were a divine person. As to the spirit’s ‘bearing witness’ (Ac 5:32; 20:23), it may be noted that the same thing is said of the water and the blood at 1 John 5:6-8. While some texts refer to the spirit as ‘witnessing,’ ‘speaking,’ or ‘saying’ things, other texts make clear that it spoke through persons, having no personal voice of its own. (Compare Heb 3:7; 10:15-17; Ps 95:7; Jer 31:33, 34; Ac 19:2-6; 21:4; 28:25.)

Answer 8

Within Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is a single Being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a perichoresis of three persons (personae, prosopa): Father (the Source, the Eternal Majesty); the Son (the eternal Logos or Word, incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth); and the Holy Spirit (the Paraclete or advocate). Since the 4th Century AD, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "One God in Three Persons," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal "persons" or "hypostases," share a single Divine essence, being, or nature. Supporting the doctrine of the Trinity is known as Trinitarianism, and is opposed to the positions of Binitarianism (two deities/persons/aspects), and Unitarianism (one deity/person/aspect), which are held by some minor Christian groups.

Answer 9

If anything, I would NOT call the Trinity "simplified."

IN fact, I think it makes it more confusing.

But in Catholic doctrine, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are just as much a part of God as God the Father. The issue was raised when Jesus made his numerous "I AM" statements (many found in John's gospel), suggesting that he is, in fact, the great I AM (aka, God.)

It was solidified as the official position of the Church at the council of Nicea, wherein the Nicene creed has the following clauses:

"We believe in Jesus Christ, His only son, our Lord.
Eternally begotten of the Father.
God from God,
Light from Light,
True God from True God,
begotten, not made, one in being with the Father."

"We believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son."

Answer 10

The word "Trinity" in reference to God is a man made term. God is God. Jesus is the son of God (because He is the first creation & sole creation of God), everything else was God & Jesus made.The Holy Spirit is independent and of God. All are subject to God the Father. The Holy Spirit is also subject to Jesus ( you find this inthe book of Acts).

Answer 11

Heck, I don't know. People go on forever about it, which I find to be odd in a supposedly 'monotheistic' religion.

The 'real' Holy Trinity is the combination of celery, bell peppers and onions which compose the basis of most Cajun and Creole food. Without these three things, it ain't Cajun.