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Do you all realize that if you do that what it does to the people you leave behind, or do you even care? My father commited suicide, in my prescance when I was 12, now I have post traumatic stress disorder, having to be medicated to be "normal" go to counsleing still. My mother is a raging alcholic and has been since the episode...... shall i go on....
this is what you leave behind... Suicide is the most selfish thing you can do

2006-07-12 03:56:59 · 28 answers · asked by steveangela1 5 in Health Mental Health

28 answers

Vengence before suicide!

2006-07-12 03:59:33 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

It is not that people that commit suicide are selfish it is that they are mentally ill and can't think of what the outcome of it is. Many people that do commit suicide have some sort of mental disability and don't seek help for it, sometimes they get help but it doesn't seem to work it just means that they need to try again and find something that does work. Most of the time they can't see what is right in front of them. They feel alone and that no one cares although people really do. My friend committed suicide and I found out after the fact that I was able to prevent it for about two weeks because I talked to him and spent some good qualitiy time with him. I just wish there was more that I could have done but I don't blame myself or anyone else for it. Unfortunatly we tend not to see anything until is too late. Hind sight is always 20/20. You may see it as selfish yes, but it was a choice your father made based on a potential mental disorder. Don't be hating your father for what happend or hate yourself for not preventing it Mental disorders are just that disorders! It was not your fault or your fathers.

2006-07-12 05:53:29 · answer #2 · answered by Sherrie 3 · 0 0

Get your **** together girl. Suicide is NOT selfish.
Let's do this, while you're busy thinking about your post-traumatic stress disorder, did you think about what your father was going thru and how confused and in pain he was that he chose to commit to killing himself?
Your father was too emotionally in pain to think about what he's leaving behind, understandable. Why are you blaming him for that??
The most selfish thing anyone in your family including your father can do is to hold it against him and call him selfish.
I am truly sorry you feel the way you feel, as well as your mom- but don't blame your father or call him selfish. For God's sake, he needed help and if you say he got help and it did nothing, he didn't get the proper help, even so, maybe this was his experience in this life right?
I would suggest looking at your disorder as something that was caused due to your father's disturbing death. YOU can overcome this if you accept his choice. Your mother can too, just get the right help, blaming is only helping you keep this disorder.
You have every right to feel undertood and so does your mother, and also your father.

2006-07-12 04:18:39 · answer #3 · answered by fiestygirl 3 · 0 0

YOUR post is so selfish. While I am sorry about your circumstance, I hardly think you have any place telling people that they are selfish because they suffer from a disease.

People who committ suicide arent thinking about what other people think, because at that point in time there is no way out. Living with a constant grief and sadness, anxiousness and pain is FAR worse than not....and if the only way out of feeling like that is suicide, thats the path they choose.

My father killed himself too, and instead of placing my anger on him and calling him selfish, and hating him for what he has "done" to me, I have accepted the fact that he was a troubled man who had his own issues, that neither he nor I could help.

Suicide isnt the reason why you have PTSD or why your mom is an alcoholic. Your mom made a bad choice by turning to alcohol as a way to cope, and just as your dad couldnt help dealing with something plauging him, now you can't as well.

2006-07-12 04:36:00 · answer #4 · answered by I Wonder 2 · 0 0

Suicide is very selfish and although it may be mental illness, they STILL know what they are doing and alot of times they want people to feel sorry for them even when it is too late. I don't look at someone that commits suicide the same as someone who dies unexpectedly, by disease or by natural causes. Many many many people contemplate suicide but then when they look back,
they realize WOW I am glad I didn't do that because life isn't so bad now.

2006-07-12 04:47:14 · answer #5 · answered by metalicgirl69 3 · 0 0

You were definitely struck with a horrible mental blow. Suicide appears selfish and cowardly to family and friends, for those that opt that route. But I want to speak out for some of the cases of suicide that occur. People that generally attempt or achieve suicide do not have the same mental thought process of normal people. Those that are severely depressed, with a added hindrance, such as chronic pain, do not live a very good quality of life. There world is dark and isolated fighting demons that only they know and see. When a person actually snaps, they actually have a similar thought process that, suicide is the only answer. Not only will they be relieved of their pain but those around them will be so much better off with out them. This is like a light that switches on and is the perfect plan for every ones benefit, not just their self. In fact, its said they actually have a feeling of relief when they are to this point. I am not saying all suicide victims and their families would fall under this category, but more do than don't. I know suicide is a sin, and I too, know the effect of losing two family members to suicide. I have watched our families fall apart. And when the second one occurred it was utter panic of fear to how many more was going to end up like my brother and nephew. I think about "what if" we had done this or that. We have beat ourselves up, wondering where we could have ran interference and prevented this tragedy. There is no way to prevent this, if the person is mentally focused that this is the perfect solution. I know how unbearable it had to of been for a 12 year to watch her Dad take his own life in front of her. The trauma alone is over whelming and devastating. I wish I had words of comfort to say to you to end your suffering episode, but I don't. But I did want you to realize another way to look at why some people do committ suicide. I also wanted you to know your not alone. We have both shared a terrible experience, and I hope that someday you can work thru all the pain you have been saddled with, and stay mentally attached and strong minded to never, ever think that this would be a answer for you or me someday. We have to lean on God, and just love and forgive our loved ones for their hurts, and let God handle their destiny, according to their mental ability. I honestly believe that in matters of suicide that not all victims are judged only by this one act but by numerous things thru out their lifes to lead to this act. Pray to God, and try and forgive your Dad, and get the strength to live a normal life. Take this negative and turn it into a postive and help others that you run across thru time and life, and help put some light on this terrible illness. We walk in the dark, but we are never alone. Remember this always!

2006-07-12 04:37:48 · answer #6 · answered by smplyme132 5 · 0 0

It seems that you are stronger than your mother. I look up to you, you seem like a very strong person, maybe your mom just needs comfort, and needs to see a psycologyst(sp?) being so young, but able to remember something like that will take alot of time to heal. And even when the wound is healed there still might be scars, but use this to your advantage and try and help people who have to go through what you do. I am sure you can find a forum or something, with people with the same problem as you. I am terribly sorry, and I hope that you will one day heal. i know this was sappy but Im just trying to help! lol Good Luck!
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2006-07-12 04:06:50 · answer #7 · answered by Lysie 2 · 0 0

You are so right about it being a selfish thing to do. BUT, After a while you should be able to get on with life WITHOUT ANY DRUGS. The drugs is a crutch. It actaully STOPS you from getting on with life. What?, are you saying. That you're going to need these drugs to live. That you CAN'T live without them.? WRONG. Yes it will be hard, and I am oh so sorry that you had to see your dad do himself in. That wasn't very nice or thoughtful of him. BUT Aftewr a while, you should be able to get on in life. Get some counsiling and STOP the DRUGS. I really am sorry, and I do wish you the very best, BUT DRUGS are not helping you at all. GOOD LUCK.

2006-07-12 04:27:20 · answer #8 · answered by GRUMPY 7 · 0 0

Suicide is way more complicated than it appears. Its not a simple decision one chooses. It is selfish in a way and it does really hurt but the suicidal person has wayyyy complex things going on that is impossible to understand. I doesn't mean they didn't love people and didn't care. Im sorry about you father.

2006-07-12 04:19:42 · answer #9 · answered by Sandra 4 · 0 0

Continue to seek help. You have alot of anger built up inside. Telling suiciders that its a selfish thing wont make them feel better. People who are suicidal think about themselves and how THEY are feeling. Not how others will feel. They find that suicide is the only way out. Is not about you. Its about them. Of course you couldn't do anything at 12 to stop your father, but Im sure that he loved your family, but now you must help yourself.

You can't fix your mother, you can't change your past and you can't change how you feel. What you CAN do is use counseling to your advantage. Feel free to express yourself and let it all ot. Eventually you will have to let go. You can't hold onto the past or else you'll never have a future. My father is an alcoholic since I was born 24 years ago. I had to go to counseling because of my anger towards my dysfunctional family, but I got help and moved on.

You have to learn to take care of yourself. All you can do for your mother is to be there for her when she falls and tell her you love her. She is dealing with your fathers passing in a negative way but we all deal with things differently. You need to talk to her and tell her how ypu feel and find comfort in each other and help each other no to look to alcohol or drugs to cope with this. Maybe you should get her involved in counseling as well.

You two need to express your feelings, cope with them, deal with them, accept what has happened has happened and move on. Or else, a continuous downward spiral will be the rest your lives.

Hope this helps and remember You can't hold onto the past or else you'll never have a future. Look at the all the time you have spent being angry, it's time to move on and let the past stay in the past.

2006-07-12 04:33:34 · answer #10 · answered by lorialis1026 1 · 0 0

Angelina, I'm so sorry you went through that horrible ordeal! I hope through counseling you can find some peace and relief of this tragedy. All I can encourage you to do is stay strong and don't let this ruin the rest of your life. You deserve to be happy and to live a fulfilling life even if your parents make horrible mistakes you can be your own best friend and make things happen for you!

2006-07-12 04:01:43 · answer #11 · answered by honey27 4 · 0 0

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