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If Christians believe the New Testament over rules the Old Testament, for example it’s OK to eat pork, then why do they want the 10 Commandments in every courthouse? If they are part of the Old Testament do they still count?

If the Old Testament is no longer valid, why to they continue to quote Leviticus to beat up gays, but then they eat Pork BBQ and work on the Sabbath? (Working on the Sabath is a death penalty offence in Leviticus; I wonder what that means for NASCAR and the NFL? Aren’t they working?

2006-07-11 15:08:42 · 10 answers · asked by arvis3 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Good question.

Really, it's not so much that the New Testament supersedes the Old Testament. It's just that the New Testament, which is the provision of Jesus Christ as the atonement for the sins of mankind, satisfied the requirements of the law. As Jesus said, "Don't assume that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." (Matthew 5:17)

As the Apostle Paul explained in the New Testament, the law enabled us to understand that we were sinners. He writes, "for through the law [comes] the knowledge of sin." (Romans 3:20) Carrying the thought a bit further, he writes, "sin was in the world before the law, but sin is not charged to one's account when there is no law." (Romans 5:13) He continues, "What should we say then? Is the law sin? Absolutely not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin if it were not for the law. For example, I would not have known what it is to covet if the law had not said, You shall not covet. And sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind. For apart from the law sin is dead." (Romans 7:7-8).

It's similar to a child's eating a cookie before supper. There is nothing inherently wrong with that until mom says, "Don't eat any cookies." The moment the rule exists, the opportunity to do wrong becomes evident, and thinking about the wrongfulness of the act of eating a cookie before supper can, for many reasons, incite the child to go ahead and pursue the cookie.

Like the child, we ate the cookies. We broke the law. "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) That's why we needed Jesus. The law condemned us, and only God could save us. "What the law could not do since it was limited by the flesh, God did. He condemned sin in the flesh by sending His own Son in flesh like ours under sin's domain, and as a sin offering, in order that the law's requirement would be accomplished in us ...." (Romans 8:3-4a)

Recognizing our inability to comply with the law, God gave us a saviour; all He requires is that we believe what He has done: "For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16)

So, having been saved from our sin and violations of the law, we are really no longer bound by the mandates of the law--as if living by them could secure our salvation (such salvation already having been wrought for us by Jesus); rather, we are enabled to fulfill them through a more simple mandate: "For the entire law is fulfilled in one statement: You shall love your neighbor as yourself." (Galatians 5:14) "Love, therefore, is the fulfillment of the law." (Romans 13:10) As Jesus said, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and most important commandment. The second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself. All the Law and the Prophets depend on these two commandments." (Matthew 22:37-39). Nevertheless, Christ also teaches that "whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches people to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever practices and teaches [these commandments] will be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 5:19) (Note that both appear to be in the kingdom of heaven--it's just that one has a position of honor.)

Thus, in sum, because of the atoning work of Christ, we are no longer, bound by the law. Rather, we fulfill the law through love. Yet, by giving honor to the law, we create honor for ourselves in heaven.

2006-07-11 15:45:12 · answer #1 · answered by internetlawyer 1 · 1 1

I don't believe the New Testament over rules the Old Testament. In fact; they are in harmony with each other!
God never changed the 10 Commandments. They're in the Old Testament(Exod.20:1-17) as well as in the New Testament in different places. Also the two other commandments he give sums up all 10; (Mark 12:29-30)"...Love the Lord thy God will all thy heart..." points to the first 4 commandments pertaining to God while (Mark 12:31; Rom.13:8-10)"Thou shalt love your neighbor as thyself" points to the last 6 commandments pertaining to your neighbor.
As far as the 10 Commandments; they're the same ones in the New Testament that Jesus and the Apostles quoted. Nothing has changed!
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Most people try to do away what God actually says by misinterpeting verses to (Rom.10:3)suit their own needs.
Look what Jesus says to them in Matthew 7:13,21-23.

As far in eating Pork; I don't do it! It's a scavenger and is very unclean! Yes; you're right the people that do these abominable things will be killed(Isaiah 66:16,17; Rev.21:8).
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For Nascar and NFL; that is still working. The only people that are excused are the one's that work in hospitals and maybe Firemen because they help others.
I don't work on the Sabbath because that is a no no!
The Seal of God is in the 4th Commandment in Exodus 20:8-11; references are John 4:22-24 and Rev.14:7.
Sabbath in Encyclopaedia Americana, Vol.24, pp.68-69.
The Sabbath Day is Saturday.
Look it up in dictionaries, encyclopedias and etc.

But anyway a SEAL contains 3 things.
1. HIS NAME,
2. HIS OFFICIAL POSITION, TITLE OR AUTHORITY
3. THE EXTENT OF HIS DOMINION AND JURISDICTION

Now the SEAL in the 4th Commandment is
1. THE LORD
2. MADE {office,creator}
3. HEAVEN AND EARTH {dominion}

If we know the SEAL is the 7th day sabbath Saturday (EXOD.20:8-11); then rejecting it would be the MARK.

REV.7:2-3 "AND I SAW ANOTHER ANGEL ASCENDING FROM THE EAST, HAVING THE SEAL OF THE LIVING GOD: AND HE CRIED WITH A LOUD VOICE TO THE FOUR ANGELS, TO WHOM IT WAS GIVEN TO HURT THE EARTH AND THE SEA,
SAYING,HURT NOT THE EARTH, NEITHER THE SEA, NOR THE TREES, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS." {Deut.6:8 = knowing, doing and keeping the Sabbath holy}

SO IF YOU KEEP SATURDAY HOLY(JN.4:22-24) AND FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST FAITH; YOU WILL HAVE THE(REV.14:12) "SEAL OF GOD".

Evidence: (Catholics know when the seventh day is)
"1. Is Saturday the 7th day occording to the Bible & the 10 Commandments.
"I answer yes.
"2. Is Sunday the first day of the week & did the Church change the 7th day--Saturday---for Sunday, the 1st. day:
"I answer yes.
"3. Did Christ change the day
"I anser no! Faithfully yours,
"J. Card. Gibbons"
--Gibbon's Autograph letter.
"Ques.--Which is the Sabbath day?
"Ans.--Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Ques.--Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Ans.--We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday."--Peter Geiermann, The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1946 ed.), p.50. Geiermann received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius x on his labors, Jan.25,1910.
Bible Readings pg.194.

(Dan.7:25 tells us "he will think to change laws and times")

"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act...And the act is a Mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." ---H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons.

2006-07-11 18:35:03 · answer #2 · answered by KNOWBIBLE 5 · 0 0

In 1 Timothy 4 it speaks of no meat in unforbidden. Its in verse 3. But if ya wanna be healthy then pork isnt good for ya, but other than that eat all ya want. In Galatians it tells us that the Law was our school master to bring us unto Christ. No we are not to keep the laws where it talks about killing someone cause they did wrong. Let God sort that out. But the ten commands are even in the new testament.

2006-07-11 15:27:59 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Amazing quotes from famous Protestant leaders about the 4th commandment of God! (See all 60 at Holysunday.com)

1. Candid Confession of the Church of Christ!
"But we do not find any direct command from God, or instruction from the risen Christ, or admonition from the early apostles, that the first day is to be substituted for the seventh day Sabbath." "Let us be clear on this point. Though to the Christian ‘that day, the first day of the week’ is the most memorable of all days ... there is no command or warrant in the New Testament for observing it as a holy day." "The Roman Church selected the first day of the week in honour of the resurrection of Christ..." Bible Standard, May, 1916, Auckland, New Zealand.

2. Candid Confession of the Church of Christ!
"... If the fourth command is binding upon us Gentiles by all means keep it. But let those who demand a strict observance of the Sabbath remember that the seventh day is the ONLY Sabbath day commanded, and God never repealed that command. If you would keep the Sabbath, keep it; but Sunday is not the Sabbath. The argument of the ‘Seventh-day Adventists’ is on one point unassailable. It is the Seventh day not the first day that the command refers to." G. Alridge, Editor, The Bible Standard, April, 1916.
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3. Candid Confession of the Baptist Church!
"There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath was not Sunday. Earnestly desiring information on this subject, which I have studied for many years, I ask, where can the record of such a transaction be found? Not in the New Testament; absolutely not. There is no Scriptural evidence of the change of the Sabbath institution from the seventh to the first day of the week ... Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did come into use in early Christian history as a religious day. But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of paganism and christened with the name of the sun god, when adopted and sanctioned by the papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism." Dr. Edward T. Hiscox, author of The Baptist Manual in a paper read before New York ministers’ conference held Nov. 13, 1893

4. Candid Confession of the Roman Catholic Church!
"The (Catholic) Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her Founder, Jesus Christ. The Protestant, claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday. In this matter the Seventh Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant." "The Question Box," The Catholic Universe Bulletin, 69 (August 14, 1942), 4.

5. Candid Confession of the Roman Catholic Church!
"Nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath Day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been
revealed to us by the [Catholic] Church outside the Bible." "To Tell You the Truth," The Catholic Virginian, 22 (October 3, 1947), 9.

6. Candid Confession of the Roman Catholic Church!
"Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that worship should be changed from Saturday to Sunday." Martin J. Scott, Things Catholics Are Asked About (New York: P. J. Kennedy & Sons) p. 136.

2006-07-11 15:15:48 · answer #4 · answered by Mr Answer 5 · 0 0

It really annoys me that the New Testament 10 commandments are different than the Old testament 10 commandments. Didn't Moses receive the originals from God himself?

2006-07-11 15:14:31 · answer #5 · answered by hope 5 · 0 0

It's not that the OT is no longer valid. In fact, gentile (non-Jewish) Christians were urged to uphold at least part of the law out of respect for their fellow (Jewish) believers - for example, gentiles were to avoid food that was sacrificed to idols, blood, and meat from strangled animals. In particular, the Council of Jerusalem urged gentiles to abstain from "sexual immorality" (Acts 15:29). Using the ancient Jewish guidelines for sexual behavior, it is pretty clear (in the Leviticus passage to which you refer) that when "a man lies with another man as one lies with a woman" was a no-no among early Christians.

As for the Ten Commandments, some Christians claim they are important because they are a historical precursor to modern western systems of law. I'm with you on this one: if they're so incredibly important, why don't we uphold them? I don't consider myself a completely miserable sinner and yet I've broken most of them - I'm sure most people, if they were honest, would say the same. If anything, placing a set of ideals such as the Ten Commandments on a pedestal ought to make us all more forgiving of wrongdoers, since they serve as a constant reminder that none of us are completely worthy and are in need of constant grace.

2006-07-11 16:55:04 · answer #6 · answered by jimbob 6 · 0 0

Matt.22:37-40; the first and great commandment to love God and neighbor.
Rom.13:8-10; Whatever commandment it is briefly comprehended
in the first and great commandment.

2006-07-11 16:24:53 · answer #7 · answered by jeni 7 · 0 0

You shouldn't eat pork or any meat because it is bad for your health. Who cares what the Bible says, as you won't be alive to worry if you keep eating animal fats.

2006-07-11 15:12:40 · answer #8 · answered by ₦âħí»€G 6 · 0 0

God changed Her mind, of course!

2006-07-11 15:20:08 · answer #9 · answered by Hatikvah 7 · 0 0

because they are hypocrites

2006-07-11 15:25:10 · answer #10 · answered by lucyanddesi 5 · 0 0

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