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If you don't support the system you shouldn't be allowed to use it

2006-07-11 09:50:44 · 21 answers · asked by ENDURAMAN 4 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Once again, some of you have inaccurate information pertaining to Jehovah's Witnesses, for the past 6 years I have received a jury summons, 2 years ago I was chosen not for the 12 person jury, but for the 6 person back-up.

Is it Scripturally acceptable for a Christian to place his hand on the Bible and swear to tell the whole truth in court?
Each individual must make a personal decision in this regard. (Galatians 6:5) However, there is no Biblical objection to taking an oath to tell the truth in court.

Oath taking has long been a widespread practice. In ancient times, for instance, the Greeks raised a hand toward heaven or touched an altar while taking an oath. When a Roman juror took an oath, he held a stone in his hand and swore: “If I knowingly deceive, while he saves the city and citadel, may [the god] Jupiter cast me away from all that is good, as I do this stone.”—Cyclopedia of Biblical

Worshipers of the true God also allowed others to put them under oath. That was so in the case of Abraham and of Jesus Christ.—Genesis 21:22-24; Matthew 26:63, 64. Even God is referred to as symbolically raising his hand in an oath.—Deuteronomy 32:40; Isaiah 62:8.

There is no Scriptural objection to taking an oath. However, a Christian does not have to take an oath so as to back up every statement that he makes. Jesus said: “Just let your word Yes mean Yes, your No, No.”

Neither Jesus nor James said that it is wrong to take an oath to tell the truth in court.

What, then, if a Christian in court is asked to swear that his testimony is truthful? He may feel that he can take such an oath. Otherwise, he may be permitted to give an affirmation that he is not lying.—Galatians 1:20.

When courtroom procedure involves either raising a hand or placing it on the Bible when swearing, a Christian may choose to comply. He may have in mind the Scriptural examples of accompanying an oath with a gesture. For a Christian, more important than making a certain gesture when taking an oath is that he remembers that he is swearing before God to tell the truth. Such an oath is a serious matter. If a Christian feels that he can and should answer a question put to him in such circumstances, then he should bear in mind that he is under oath to tell the truth, which, of course, is what a Christian wants to speak at all times.

I heard a Minister on "TV" say: If JW's had not taken religious issues to the Supreme Court of the U.S.A. Religions would not have the freedom they have today.

Example: "house to house" If JW"s had not taken the issue to Court, which they did, and won, if they had lost the case, then someone could have gone to court and said "no more "girl scout, or "boy scout" coming to the door selling cookies, etc., etc.,

You people should be very glad the Witnesses have gone several times to the Supreme Court to maintain freedom of religion, not just for us, but for all religions.

2006-07-11 14:24:04 · answer #1 · answered by BJ 7 · 0 0

Jehovah's Witnesses WILL serve on juries, if the need arises. However they will NOT serve on a jury for a death penalty case. It is NOT to man to decide if someone lives or dies. A person's life, or loss of life, is only to be decided by Jehovah God. Jehovah's Witnesses absolutely support the system and are known for doing so, including conscientiously paying their taxes and making use of the system to continue to stand for their rights and freedoms in terms of their religious beliefs and activities are concerned.

2006-07-21 13:52:18 · answer #2 · answered by X 7 · 0 0

Because they are completely brainwashed hypocrites.
They twist the bible warp the scriptures and deny obvious facts to purvey their lies and convert those who are spiritually vacant and looking for some salvation.
No religion is right, but at least most are based in historical fact and offer some sound advice.
The JW's say they are against killing yet their religious goal is the total mass genocide of everyone who does not follow their faith.
That friends is fascism and we all know how evil that is. They are so convinced they are right about everything even when some basic foundations of the religion are obviously false I will just site one thing the cross.
It is a known FACT!!! that for the 800 years Crucifixion was a mode of torture and death offered as punishment in the Roman empire it was performed in 3 ways either with a T shaped cross or and X shaped cross.
If you were bad you got the T if you were really bad you got the X but it was tied with tension and before the convict would die the ropes holding the tension were cut ripping the victim in pieces.
JW's discount the existence of the cross entirely
the third was reserved for heresy where the blasphemer was nailed upside down.
This is one of the cornerstones of their repulsion to main stream Christianity. If you ever want to you can pull on any of a thousand threads of falsehood.
They are a cult and one with some pretty evil beliefs.

I am EX-JW, so is my grandmother, my father my mother, we all got out.

Oh and they love to feel persecuted they are paranoid and think the whole world is out to get them, they think there is all this anti JW propaganda and that the governments around the world and secret police are watching them wait to round them up and put them in camps like the Jews of WW2 which disgusts me because they compare the fact they irritate people with genuine suffering of an ethnic minority, which to me diminishes the horror those people went through.
That is just pandering The best anti JW propaganda comes from the JW it's is part of the brainwashing to make them believe they are being watched .
Well in the 70's their was supposed to be all the JW in prison camps in Africa and they were coming for the ones in the US next.
It never happened because it wasn't true.
Just like they said the world would end for all us sinners no longer part of "the Truth"
Personally I wish they would round them up and send them to a deprogramming and reeducation centre and the ones who would not snap back to reality should be locked away from civilised society.
Oops! anti witness propaganda, no better not they is just what they want. So they can say Look we are being persecuted.
Poor deluded souls, pray for them, and if you have the time try to point out the flaws to them and maybe save a few from wasting their life with that cult

2006-07-21 11:47:35 · answer #3 · answered by Yndy'91 3 · 0 0

Because this is America where people are free to worship as they please. And every American Veteran defends that right with their very lives. Whether a faith believes or not believes in our court system or serving in the military does not matter. They have the right to worship and believe the way they wish. It is in the constitution of the United States.

If you force them to do otherwise you have breached the constitution and it will no longer apply to the freedoms we hold so dear.

Not all courts are jury. And you can't apply your statement to all Jehovah Witness' there are those who serve their country as they believe fits their faith.

No, I'm not J.W. I know a lot of people who are and I have studied their beliefs. I don't agree with a lot of it but they are still Americans who benefit from the same rights and freedoms that you and I do.

2006-07-11 10:09:01 · answer #4 · answered by BP 4 · 0 0

Sadly, this is anti-Witness propaganda.

As a religion, Jehovah's Witnesses do not teach against jury duty. It is well-understood to be part of a citizen's obligation to secular governments.
(Romans 13:1) Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities, for there is no authority except by God; the existing authorities stand placed in their relative positions by God

Some individuals have a conscience issue with what they perceive as "judging" their neighbor, but neither the Bible nor Jehovah's Witness doctrine teaches that God forbids service on a jury.

Learn more about Jehovah's Witnesses from their official website:
http://watchtower.org
http://watchtower.org/library/g/1998/1/8/article_01.htm

2006-07-12 09:05:05 · answer #5 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0 0

As has been so eloquently pronounced, Jehovah's Witnesses can and do serve on juries. there is no Bible concept being violated even as/in case you serve on a jury. everybody will make their own decision related to this. i'm a JW and characteristic been summoned to jury duty. I genuinely have lengthy handed by ability of the attitude of jury decision and that i even had the adventure of getting to sit in the jurors container in the course of the alternative procedure. even as requested a query, I obviously said that i replaced into one in all Jehovah's Witnesses and my beliefs ought to play a function if I were chosen. The decide requested if i'd be in a position to form an opinion depending on the data presented, to which I responded certain. even as it got here time for juror disqualification, the protection chosen me because the first to be pushed aside. If I were chosen as a juror, i don't have objected. it is one journey. different JW's may have differing beliefs on what they could do in that difficulty. frequently, the justice equipment gained't excuse you from jury duty on the theory of religious perception, a minimum of the position i'm from. you're maximum perfect that you could go by ability of the technique in case you're summoned or you'd be held in contempt of courtroom. notwithstanding, you're taking a seat, go by ability of the technique, and extra in all probability than not, you gained't get chosen besides.

2016-11-01 21:07:15 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Knowing what I do now, I would plead guilty rather than have a Jehovah's Witness as a juror in my trial, even if I were innocent.

It's clearly obvious they use their beliefs to get the results they want and to get out of social responsibilities. If they can live free in America to practice their religion and don't have to lift a finger to be part of the solution, why should they? After all, they get to have a pretty easy life living off the blood, sweat and tears of the non-believers they readily judge and frown upon.

After reading everything posted here and checking out those links for actuality, I'm honestly sickened and disgusted.

I'm ashamed I actually gave those people money, even if it was just to get them off my doorstep! I better go out and buy a no trespassing sign for my front door right away.

2006-07-11 12:34:34 · answer #7 · answered by Buddelia 3 · 0 0

Why are Jehovah's Witnesses more often than not excused from jury duty? I'm inclined to believe it's because of their beliefs, too. What exactly do they believe???

Here's just a small sampling of their religious beliefs

The JWs believe that anyone who is not in their flock is an unbeliever - so, if you're not one of them, you're Hell bound for sure! Fun, huh? Keep reading because it gets even better....

This organization actually encourages lying - a clear violation of one of The Ten Commandments. Why? JWs believe that non-JWs don't deserve to hear the "truth". Their version of the truth is justified for lying, whether at your doorstep or in court under oath! JWs break commandments and judge others to suit their needs, no matter what is written in the Bible. I know atheists who are more morally sound than the followers of this religion - sad isn't it?

JWs are allowed to divorce their spouse for adultery with a member of the opposite sex - only. Divorce for any other reason was forbidden, even if the adultery was homosexually orientated or if that spouse was having sex with an animal. Yessiree Bob, your husband or wife could have sex with a goat, chicken, German shepherd or gorilla and you could not divorce them!

The JWs currently have pedophiles and child molesters in their society. These monsters are permitted and fully encouraged to go door-to-door, preaching their "good news". One of a few documented cases involves a JW who visited a home and later returned to molest a child he saw there. That man was and is allowed to go door-to-door with the support of the WTS because unless the molestation in progress wasn't actually witnessed by 2 others, it never really happened...

While the JWs allows liars and child molesters to remain in their flock, a member will be disfellowshipped (kicked out) and shunned for smoking a cigarette, having a glass of wine or disagreeing with their teachings. Good thing they don't celebrate birthdays or they'd probably take that away from the "sinner", too.

The Watch Tower Society had, has and continues to revamp their writings in order to omit or justify their numerous foul ups. Further omissions and tweaking will be enacted as the errors, misconceptions and false prophesies occur. When the goof ups invariably happen (as it often happens in cults), the members must continue to submit to the teachings until God's Word is changed yet again. Even the name of their religion can't stay constant because it's been changed many times since they became an "organized" religion. And I used to think flip-flops were just cheap rubber sandals...

In 1975, the JWs lost many, many members when, for the 7th time, their prediction of Armageddon fell through. This mass exodus dictated the need for more "believers" to fill their ranks and keep the money flowing in. They will do whatever it takes to sign up new members - including telling you lies because you, as a "non-believer" don't deserve to know the truth. The real truth or their version of the truth is for you to decide, but not so according to them. Any arguments or questions against their truth will result in lies or an all out bombardment of Bible verses twisted to prove themselves right and how filled with Satan you are.

The sources I've provided will be a good read for those interested in learning about one Christian based cult which isn't Christian at all. JWs have been brainwashed to only acknowledge the WTS's teachings for fear of being shunned and excommunicated which includes permanent separation from their children and families until they once again "get with the program".

2006-07-11 10:12:37 · answer #8 · answered by Phred_Pharkle 2 · 0 0

its not that we cant serve on juries, we usually are not chosen to serve because of our religious beliefs. We will always stick to our bible knowledge and make our decisions based on that and sometimes to serve on a jury they ask you if your religious beliefs will affect your decision on the verdict and if it does then most likely they will not use you...

2006-07-11 09:58:34 · answer #9 · answered by **me** 2 · 0 0

Wont serve in the Military either, though some have in the past and now enjoy
their benefits still.

2006-07-11 09:53:08 · answer #10 · answered by kritikos43 5 · 0 0

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