A Few Examples:
Jesus never said I am God worship me!
He never said I am dying for the sins of the world.
He was the messiah for the lost sheep of Israel only and his mission was to save the Hebrew people from Roman control but the spirits of the Hebrew people were not with God.
He was murdered for sedition by the hebrew priests and roman governor and was not a willing lamb being led to the slaughter.
He never intended to start a new religion
He was the son of Joseph who was a descendant of David from the tribe of Judah and not the only begotten son of God.
He became a son of God through his righteousness like the prophets before him.
Jesus was not physically ressurected but spiritually only and that is why he is the first born of the dead and ruler of the kings of the earth.
And a vast amount of other contradictions and outright lies.
2006-07-11
08:46:28
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I did not think anyone could! thank you for helping me prove my point. Jesus said he only came for the lost sheep of Israel and everything else I have said can be verified in the bible.
2006-07-11
09:02:39 ·
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How can you say that I have not proved my case! Christianity is based on the lies that Jesus is God and he died for the sins of mankind both of which are not scriptural truths but intepretations of passages.
2006-07-11
09:10:06 ·
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Jesus became one with God through his righteousness and faith in God. Jesus said he only came for the lost sheep of Israel. Jesus did not want to be crucified but he realized that his death should lead people to God because he was vindicated with salvation for his righteousness which is the entire point of his death and ressuretion. If Joseph never slept with Mary , why does the bible demonstrate his lineage is through Joseph to David? He could not be a descendant of David without Joseph being his father. the original hebrews were patrernal, modern jews are maternal. I never read that Thomas believed that Jesus was physically ressurected, in fact, his gospel is entirely dedicated to the saying and teachings of Jesus. Again I can prove the fraudulence of Christianity but noone can say that Islam is not the truth and the best hope for the salvation of mankind.
2006-07-11
09:20:05 ·
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You're right! I agree with you
2006-07-11 09:01:48
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answered by Anonymous
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You are right; he never said he was God. He never told anyone to worship him. But he did EVERYTHING that the Old Testament prophets fortold the Messiah would do; something that takes astronomical odds to accomplish.
Not only was he the lost sheep for Israel, but for all humanity (read Romans). No where was he to save people from Roman control; that is what the Jews believed, but that was not his intention.
He was a willing lamb because in the Garden of Gethseme, he was willing to be taken away; in no way shape or form was he putting resistance.
Though it may be that he never intented to start a religion, but he commanded his followers to make disciples in order to save humanity. So is there anything wrong with that? I wouldn't call that a religion, more like following orders.
He was the son of Joseph, but not the BIOLOGICAL son of Joseph. If a boy is adopted into a family, he is a son of that family, even though he is not biological.
He was already born the Son of God, not through his righteousness.
He was physicaly ressurected, thus why the women found his tomb to be empty; why Thomas was able to touch the hands that were pierced by the nails.
And any other contradictions that you have, please do explain. And while you are at it, please explain to me where you got all your "facts". All the information you provided is not at all factual. Get your facts straight
2006-07-11 09:13:07
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesus never existed and there are proofs of that as well.
Every religion on paper looks OK. But in reality by the movement of churches and their hierarchy it is lost in looking for power and manipulating people. From an old book from the Jews plus some writings from the Essenes the bible was born. Later with some extras from Mohamed the Koran was made. Al of these religions have the same Jewish back ground and nobody agrees! Did You ever see a political meeting in the Israeli Government? Nobody agrees ever!
2006-07-11 08:56:50
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answered by Anonymous
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Before you contradict the bible, read it first. All of it. None of what you say comes from the bible. Jesus said "I and the father are one." I don't know where you got your information from, but before you make such claims, read the bible for yourself. I do not know islam, but I don't talk about it, either.
How do you know Jesus was not physically ressurected? The only way you would know it at all is from reading the bible, and the bible doesn't mention anything about a 'spiritual' ressurection.
Please, get your facts straight. If you, or anyone else do not believe in God, or the bible, that is your choice, but don't attack it. People usually attack and make such claims out of fear. Why fear something or someone who isn't real? This question is for all who do not believe in God.
If you don't want to read what christians have say on here and are tired of reading about getting saved, or believing in God, then don't read what they have to say. Something draws you to discussing christianity, whether you want to realize it or not. Take care.
2006-07-11 09:02:27
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answered by Anonymous
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Which Islam? The Sunni? The Shiite? Both are killing each other. Yeah, that is a great religion. The Islamic nations are among the richest in the world because of oil. When the oil runs out, they all collapse into civil war and disappear. Allah doesn't seem to help the Muslims prosper much.
Islam believes that Jesus was born of a virgin. So his birth was miraculous. It isn't our fault that you don't believe the rest of his life and even his death was equally miraculous.
2006-07-11 08:55:26
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answered by theogodwyn 3
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Experts tell me there are outright contradictions in the Koran. (Haven't found an English copy to read yet). Explain that.
The Koran says there is nothing so well written before or since that work. Mohammed didn't write it. He dictated it. And as for the flowery prose, that was his opinion, something that can't be backed up factually.
World Trade Center anyone?
Jesus said He came to save anyone who would accept Him. This is backed up in the Gospels of the Disciples.
Jesus' own words say that His Life was His to lay down and take up and no man could do it.
There's plenty more, but hey, you have your opinion and I have facts.
2006-07-11 08:51:48
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answered by wiregrassfarmer 3
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Those are interesting opinions. I don't see how you can argue that Jesus was the Messiah only for the "lost sheep of Israel," when he was constantly criticized and in trouble for hanging out with Gentiles, Samaritans, and other folks considered outsiders. If Islam is more true for you that's fine, but it doesn't mean that all other religions can't also be true. Maybe truth goes beyond either/or???
2006-07-11 08:58:56
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answered by keri gee 6
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Then how was Cornelius and his household saved in Acts Chaopter 10? He wasn't a Jew.
What about the Ethiopian Eunich in Acts Chapter 8......baptized by Phillip....He wasn't a Jew.
You have a basic MISUNDERSTANDING of Jesus Message, Mission, and Purpose.......
In short "ye do er not knowing the scriptures, or the power of God."
2006-07-11 10:20:17
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answered by ROBARRE 2
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Well... I guess it depends on what "truth" you're talking about . Is
it true that the Koran and the Haddith preach the subjugation of women?
Is it true that the Koran and the Haddith have in the past and currently spread Islam by brute force with a joins us or die mentality ?
Is it true that the Koran and the Haddith spread hatred and intolerance throughout the world in madrases and in the classroom ?
Is it true that the Koran and the Haddith INSTRUCT the followers of Islam that it is the duty of the faithful to destroy the jews utterly and completely and to dismember them and cast their limbs to the four winds?
If Islam is the truth, I want no part of that truth. I would never subjugate myself or my family to a religion that rewards the killing of innocent women and children with. I would never subscribe to a religion that teachs me that my mother is worth less than my father and allows my father to beat her. A religion that would not let my mother and sister educate themselves. A religion that has hatred and intolerance immeded in its very foundation.
Riddle me this..... What religion sentences a fourteen year old girl to death for "allowing" herself to be raped by four men?
I think you can figure it out.
2006-07-11 09:16:27
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answered by Shawn B 3
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take my advise don't play with GOD.JESUS SAID I'M THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME. JESUS ALSO SAID EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND EVERY TONGUE CONFESS HE IS LORD. GOD IS JESUS'S FATHER AND IF I WERE YOU I WOULD LET THE TRUTH SET YOU FREE BEFORE JESUS 2ND COMING.JESUS CAME INTO THE WORLD TO SAVE NOT CONDEM THE WORLD.ANYTHING OTHER THEN GOD'S WAY IS A BIG FAT LIE AND FROM THE PITTS OF HELL EVEN THE ISLAM WAY. KNOW THE TRUTH BEFORE YOU TALK ABOUT GOD.THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THIS VERY MINUTE THAT ARE LAYING THEIR LIVES DOWN FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST. SATAN AND BUDDA CAN'T OFFER FREEDOM.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD HAS SAID HE WILL JUDGE EVERYONE INCLUDING YOU ON THE LAST DAY.
2006-07-11 09:05:47
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answered by bigmamma 1
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I read though the answers you have made one huge error. Jesus claimed to be GOD. The Jews knew it and pick up stone to kill Him. He used the name of God as Him name.. He said befor Abraham was " I AM".... You are say the Jesus was either a mad man or a liar. I say He is exactly what He said He is the Great I AM...
2006-07-11 09:05:15
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answered by Anonymous
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