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2006-07-11 08:29:38 · 17 answers · asked by The man who Sweats 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Keep in mind, the man who sweats DOES NOT HAVE A PhD

2006-07-11 08:46:10 · update #1

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Your asseveration, in the form of a question, is a typical fallacy known as: post hoc ergo propter hoc.

You are assuming that if an event happens (life) after another event (earth location), then you can conclude a cause (intelligent design). The problems with this asseveration are:
- Probability: how can you conclude the location isn't probable by chance, are there any specific basis to determine this? All we know is the conditions were favorable, that's it.
- Cause: you need to prove the existence of the source to propose it as a solution, if you haven't proved such "intelligence" exists, it's hard to correlate it with some events. The existence of that intelligence ain't self-proving, then it can't be taken as an axiom.
- Consequence: You need to prove the even't can't be replicated in another location. Is this verifiable? Can we make an absolute statement about this?

Your proposed (implied) axioms aren't self proving, then they are more likely false axioms or we need further explanations of their self-proving qualities. But in conclusion, your propositon is a fallacy.

2006-07-11 08:50:26 · answer #1 · answered by Oedipus Schmoedipus 6 · 1 0

ID is a scientific theory first spoken of by Albert Einstein in the 1950's. He was trying to explain what he saw in the universe that he could not otherwise explain with the then current theories. Most scientist scoffed at the idea back then. But some today are beginning to entertain the ID again. The theory of evolution and the big bang are ideas the many scientist today can no longer support. Many uninformed people today believe that ID is a creationist idea, it is not. But it is a step in the right direction.

2006-07-11 15:43:33 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

That's a classic error, confusing cause and effect, (know as the Anthropic principal...mistaking coincidence for "divine intervention) and yes, scientists have great explanations for those weak arguments. (i.e. life arose on earth because the conditions were favorable for life on earth, as opposed to say Venus or Mars. If earth were closer or further away from the sun, there would have been less favorable condititions for life as we know it, and you wouldn' have evolved to ask stupid questions. ) So what is your point??

Here are some links where this question is dealt with in great detail by people more learned than I. The question is would you actually read them, understand them, and change your narrow world view. If your only reference for the way things are is the bible, then we probably can't have a rational discussion.

2006-07-11 15:42:34 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Like bettierage said. Life can only be found where it can exist. That is not evidence. Plus the earth is covered by water which is a natural temperature buffer. That is why Earth's distance from the sun can differ at different points during its orbit and we don't all evaporate. If there was an intelligent designer he would have made the orbit circular, don'tcha think.

2006-07-11 15:37:36 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Did you know, ID does not actually rule out the possibility that there is no god? For example, ID can even mean we were simply created by living, breathing, able to die and far from omnipresent Extra Terrestrials?
ID, is only a hypothesis my friend, not a Theory. To become Theory, such as Gravity, Relativity, etc, it must show provable evidence that can be reproduced. The greatest Theories of our time were those that first, were scrutinised by those who hypothesised such ideas, and others who made every effort to first DISprove them. That is how it works. Once a hypothesis cannot be disproven by experiment(not simply faith)then it becomes classed as fact(Theory), until it can be adequately disproven.

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2006-07-11 15:33:23 · answer #5 · answered by googlywotsit 5 · 0 0

Well, there are several bazillion other planets that won't sustain life, which is why we're here and not there.

If you believe in ID, how do you explain all those other places? Did The Designer take a long time to get it right? Or does he just enjoy futzing around? If the latter, how do we know he wasn't just futzing around when he made us?

2006-07-11 16:15:34 · answer #6 · answered by injanier 7 · 0 0

Life exists on Earth because it is in the correct location. Had Mars ended up in this location, we would be Martians. If it were Neptune, we'd be Neptunians. It all came from this combination of carbon and miscellaneous compounds that we called the "primordial soup". Could have happened on any planet. Just happened to be this one.

2006-07-11 15:39:34 · answer #7 · answered by firemedicgm 4 · 0 0

There are hundreds of millions of galaxies containing hundreds of millions of stars if not more. Many of these stars have solar systems like our own star. By law of probability there has to be other planets that could sustain life, whether other life has indeed evolved on another planet is another matter.

Also what is to say there is not a life form out there that requires say nitrogen to live ?

Even on our own planet there are life forms that can live in extremely hot or extremely cold environments.

2006-07-11 15:37:13 · answer #8 · answered by bibleboy 1 · 0 0

Scientists don't have a need to explain this. It already is, so it doesn't need explaining. You are mixing apples and oranges. Science doesn't need to sort out the mysteries of existence. It's a method for testing the mechanics of existence.

2006-07-11 15:39:35 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Just because this one planet - out of trilions of millions of billions - can sustain life it is not proof of ID. Look at all the planets that can't.

2006-07-11 15:34:52 · answer #10 · answered by Macaroni 4 · 0 0

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