Don't you just love the arguement against homosexuality "if i could do what i want, i could murder people"

Question

I honestly just read this as a reason why homosexuality is immorral, that if we could do what we want why can't he just go murder people.

Do religious people really need a book to tell them don't kill?

Do you honestly require a Bible and for it to tell you on page 63 don't kill anyone?

Honestly, the more I read from the fringe of people, not the mainstream, but the fringe of society, the less optimistic I get about our future.

Why can't you just go murder someone? Cause someone is a human being, don't need God for that one did I?

Answer 1

i think most of these so called christians have no clue as to what true morality really is. they cling to ancient beliefs that no longer are needed and try and force them onto the rest of us without regard as to the damage they cause.

Answer 2

Actually, a great deal of what most atheist and world lovers believe are reasonable naturally moral actions originate from God. No good has ever by itself originated from men.

For example, if we lived on a purely scientific law where the strong should move on to produce even stronger humans, then murdering weeker humans for the good of humanity seems perfectly logical. Scientifically, logically speaking - it seems perfectly sensable to murder people with physical and mental disabilities that make them a burden on humanity as a way to purify our genes. Using just human reason alone, why should we extend the lives of people with AIDS and other contagious diseases so that they can possibly spread the diseases more. Using reason alone, the simple cure for AIDS would be to murder everyone with AIDS and voila..no more AIDS. Human reason would actually bring us to the point of not caring for hte homeless and the poor. Why should we. We made it and they didnt. The more we care for them the longer they will be around.


What you believe is your own natural goodness only came to you through someone else and that person through someone else or directly from the truth in the Bible. Humans naturally are not good. Have you ever seen a child in the grocery store with a parent who was not doing a good job of raising the kid properly and the kid is screaming and acting like a brat. Unless he gets some character straigtening, that kids gonna be a plague on society in someway.



As far as the argument that you are saying. Many homosexuals say that they are born gay and therefore that alone justifies their lifestyle and it should be celebrated. Couldnt anyone have any kind of lifestyle and say they are born that way. I DO believe that for whatever reason some people deal with gay thoughts more than others. We all have our personal demons. Some of those demons if let lose to run our lives are what turn us into alcoholics, murderers, pedophiles. Think about the people who like to be peed and pooped on(SCAT). You choose what you want to do with your life, just stop acting like society is bad is they dont celebrate it.

Answer 3

I think there is a diffrence between religious practice, and society based morals.

Religion says homosexuality is an abomination to God. Based on that, religion deems it immoral. For now, much of society deems it immoral, but that is changing, and before to long, we may no longer see it as immoral in society, but on that Bible verse religion will. Murder is the same thing, society, government, could stop prosecuting murder, make it so that if you feel the need to reach out and kill someone, you can, and in a few years, society will deem it moral, and religion will be against it.

A Bible should be an example of how a Christian should live their life, and if they find it against God, they should not participate. But to live a morally good life, to live a moral life in society, you dont need a Bible to tell you that.

Answer 4

I think murder has been around just as long as homosexuality. We might not murder grown people, but we have no problem murdering the unborn. In some parts of the world it is common practice to commit infanticide and to euthanize the very sick or very old.

Its and issue of blurring the lines, not where those lines are.

My favorite stand for why homosexuality should not be socially accepted as a union is "if two men really love eachother and want to marry and screw because of that love, why cant a father and daughter who truly love each other marry and have sex, and why cant an aunt and nephew marry?"

thats a logical argument. where DO we draw the lines? Or do we simply fade them.

Answer 5

Murder is against God's Word also homesexuality is a sin not only against God's Word but also against nature. My nature you are a sinner, we know right from wrong without the Bible. We also know what sex we are and why would people go against nature. The animals of the field know what they are and they don't try to be something they are not. Why does humans? Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Answer 6

You're right, that is a pretty thin argument. It could be used for any other sin, and still be just as weak.

As far as I can understand, the argument against homesexuality has more to do with the creation of life and not the destruction thereof.

Sex is the tool that God has given us for the sacred task of procreation. It was given to Adam and Eve to bring about the first commandment which was to multiply and replenish the earth. Because it is so sacred, it is to be reserved for a man and a woman within the bonds of marriage. Now it also serves to strengthen that bond between man and wife, but it is still sacred. It should be enjoyed(that's why God also gave us hormones) but it should also be treated as sacred.

Sex before marriage, sex outside of marriage, and sex of the same gender are all mockeries of the sacredness of sex, and the purpose of sex, and that is why they are wrong.

Answer 7

One example of a society which pre-dated Christianity, and certainly were never inspired by the Jews were the Egyptians and their Forty-Two Declarations of Purity. These Forty-Two Declarations are found in the Book of the Dead and were used during funeral rites. Though they never were considered "Commandments", or laws but they certainly didn't condone killing.

Number 4. "O Swallower of Shades who came forth from Kernet, I have not slain people."

I would wager that just about every society has placed strict limitations at least on the killing of their own kind.

Answer 8

I don't see why it's so threatening to so many people. I really don't. But, I'm lucky enough to not really care what other people do in the privacy of their own homes. It ruins absolutely nothing for me if two consenting adults want to have sex with each other. The killing argument is ridiculous, because obviously murder kills people. Homosexuality doesn't hurt any more people than heterosexuality.

Answer 9

They must need a book to tell them what to do and what not to do. They think atheists will bring about anarchy, idiots. I am not a homosexual, but I believe it is nature trying to combat the problem of overpopulation. after all, two of the same sex cannot reproduce, can they? More people should be gay to really help fight overpopulation , in my opinion, it's the good ecologically sound thing to do.

Answer 10

Let's not forget that god is ok with murder under certain circumstances. For example, he told the jews to kill "every living thing" when they went into the promised land. That's right, kill the men, women, children, babies, even animals because they were considered "unclean".

Sounds a bit like genocide to me.

Answer 11

Jim you just need to try and not worry about the fringe of society.They will and have always been there.The best we can do is to hope(pray),that at least in our lifetime the fringe doesn't take over and become the majority. Peace....