Once saved always saved?

Question

Christians what do you think? Are you sure you will go to heaven?
You don't know the future. Maybe you will die as a Wiccan or Satanist.
I know many ex-Christians.

answer to elliottandel...:
what is falsely saved? how do u know?

answer to Jess:
how can you judge? jesus said--"judge not". i know a guy who was
a very strict christian. but he later forsaked christianity. how do u know? can you judge him
before he abandones christianity? or how can you predict a person will abandon? aren't u judging him? what if your judgement becomes wrong?

Answer 1

hmm , I believe in salvation by grace, and i do not stress about whether i am going to heaven or not, nor do i stress out about who is going to heaven, i am not here to judge that , just to live as Christ-like as i can, and know that i will sin, i am not perfect.

Answer 2

Once saved always saved? No. Apostle Paul wrote a Christian can fall away from grace (Gal. 5:4). Read also I Tim. 4:1; I Cor. 10:12; Heb. 3:12 - 14. Just to name a few. Salvation is conditional upon certain "if's" - Matt. 5:13; Jno. 15:4-6; Heb. 10:26-27. It's possible for those who have escaped the sin of the world through the knowledge of Jesus, to again be entangled by and to be overcome by sin - II Pet. 2:20-22.

Answer 3

Most likely, those who told you that they were once a "Christian," had a false conversion experience. The Bible speaks of false conversion, in which a "stony ground" hearer receives the Word with joy and gladness. Then, in a time of tribulation, temptation, and persecution, falls away. The world erroneously calls these individuals "backsliders." The truth is, they never slid forward to begin with.

When a person maintains that he was once a Christian, but came to his senses, he is saying that he once knew the Lord (see John 17:3). Ask him, "Did you know the Lord?" He will then be forced to say, "I thought I did!" This gives you license to gently say, "If you don’t know so, then you probably didn’t." If he didn’t know the Lord, he was therefore never a Christian (1 John 5:11–13,20).

Explain to him that the Bible speaks of false conversion, in which a "stony ground" hearer receives the Word with joy and gladness. Then, in a time of tribulation, temptation, and persecution, falls away. If he is open to reason, take him through the Ten Commandments, into the message of the cross, and the necessity of repentance and faith in the Savior.

You know someone is "falsely saved" by the fruit of their lives. If they continue to live in sin; lying, stealing, sexual immorality, blaspheming God's name in vain without repentance, then they never were saved and are an enemy of God. On the other hand, if someone is bearing the fruit of repentance, humility, a hunger and thirst for righteousness and a desire to preach the gospel to that which is lost and damned eternally...you will know that he is saved by the evidence shown through his actions.

(answer to your comment to Jess)

"Judge not lest you be judged. You therefore have no right to judge me when it comes to my sins!"

The world often takes this verse out of context and uses it to accuse Christians of being "judgmental" when they speak of sin. In the context of the verse Jesus is telling His disciples not to judge one another, something the Bible condemns (Romans 14:10; James 4:11). In Luke 6:41,42 He speaks of seeing a speck in a brother’s eye. In John 7:24 He said, "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." If someone steals, lies, commits adultery or murder, etc., the Christian can make a (righteous) moral judgment and say that the actions were morally wrong, and that these sins will have eternal consequences. Chuck Colson said, "True tolerance is not a total lack of judgment. It’s knowing what should be tolerated—and refusing to tolerate that which shouldn’t."

Answer 4

If you are saved and covered by the blood of jesus christ and you die you will go to heaven. Only god knows our hearts, when you stand before him he will know if you are truly saved or not. True we don't know the future, but we do have a free will, if we want to go to heaven then we will follow christ, we don't need to worry about becomming anything else or backsliding (ex christians).

Answer 5

That is a question based on an individual's placement of faith in their chosen doctrine. Posing the question to Christians, here is your answer:

You can never and will never 'lose' or can 'give up' your 'savedness', even with a "declaration of rejection". It happens once and you are then forgiven for anything you will ever/can do.

An analgous question would be: Could you possibly do anything that is greater than God's ability to forgive you?
Impossible.

Answer 6

Ok, "Once saved, Always saved" is false. Read Ezekial 33:13. it says that if you are righteous, and told you will surely live(go to heaven), and if you turn from your righteousness, and commit iniquity, then your righteousness will not be remembered and you will surely die(go to hell). I've talked to Baptist people who beleive in that, and they have told me that the Bible contradicts itself, but that's impossible. It's impossible because the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and since it's the inspired word of God, it can't contradict itself because it is perfect. They have also told me that God changes His mind, but He can't change His mind, James 1:17 says that God doesn't change. So you see, Once saved, Always saved in not correct. Also, to answer the True beleivers comment. There are what's called, true and false converts, and the false converts are the ones who fall away from God, but generally, true beleivers continue to follow God. You can tell who is a true beleiver by looking at a persons "fruits."

Answer 7

Think of it like this: The Bible reveals that God is holding out a free gift to anyone who receives it. You don't see it, but the Bible says it's there. Let's say this gift is a white robe and we'll call this robe the righteousness of God. By faith, which means believing what the Bible is saying, you reach out and receive the white robe from the hands of God. Ask and you will receive.

After you receive it God stands smiling at you and waiting for you to put it on. So you put it on. You begin wearing it. It feels good. Whenever God looks at you, he sees the white robe. Whenever you approach God, you are comfortable with Him because you are wearing his special gift. You can communicate freely with Him.

After this, you continue (as long as you live) to have a choice about the robe. Some people take off the robe because they are not having as much fun as they used to because others treat them differently when they are wearing the robe.

Some people lose the robe because they start to believe it doesn't really exist and they are just fooling themselves into believing it does. So it disappears.

Some people not only wear the robe, but they realize they have now become God's representatives to this earth. They continue to believe the Bible and reach out with God's love to help other people because they are so thankful to God for what He gave to them.

You see, belief is the mechanism God uses to pass spiritual gifts from the spiritual side of the universe to our side. Belief (or faith) is not something that earns anything on our behalf, it is simply the only way of receiving something from God. We also keep whatever we have received from God in the same way.

This gift isn't really free, it cost Jesus his life, but we receive it freely by faith. God requires us to have the faith to be found covered by the white robe (God's free gift) before we die or before Jesus returns to the earth.

Will you receive this gift from God today?

Answer 8

TRY the Spirit's to see if they are of GOD. It's in the BIBLE. Some People get SAVED (Spiritman RECREATED) when they are young, and then forget about it (in their SOUL, second mind) as they grow-up. But they will alway's KNOW in their Spiritman (first mind, YOUR TRUE SELF) that JESUS CHRIST came in the FLESH, died on the CROSS and was RISEN form the DEAD by the FATHER above. Even if their SOUL get's Confused, Decieved etc., and they don't really want to say it. Ditto......

Answer 9

If you are truley saved then yes you will go to heaven no matter what kinda crime you may have done or will do because you have backslidden. It says that No man can pluck you out of the hands of God. Are you not a man. There fore if you are truley saved then you will always be saved.

Answer 10

If someone says they are an ex-christian, they were never one to begin with.

Yes, I am going to heaven and I have no doubt.

"The witness is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life. These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, in order that you may know that you have eternal life" (1 John 5:11-13).

Answer 11

You're right. I don't know the future. But neither do you. I am sure I will go to Heaven, because I have accepted Jesus as my Lord and Savior, and I'm not going to change.