In response to 9/11, what would President Jesus do?

Question

This is a question particularly for Christians who support the Bush administration and/or the War on Terror. And I'm not asking this facetiously... I'm serious. This seems like a HUGE contradiction and I honestly don't understand it. The Bush administration and their right-wing cronies claim to be Christians, and yet they've chosen to invade countries, kill terrorists and other "bad guys," and bomb places back to the stone age. They've argued for the necessity of torture, claimed that certain numbers of Iraqi civilian casualties are "acceptable," and assassinated opposition leaders.

How many bombs do you think Jesus would have dropped in retaliation if he had been President on 9/11? Would Jesus "waterboard" terror suspects?

I'm neither Christian nor hippie (though some of your vitriol is amusing). I'm asking because I find it interesting that people claim to be Christian, but then completely ignore the message of the man they're supposedly following (citing other people's violence as a justification for their own violence).

Jesus, however, when faced with his own death, accepted it without a fight... Told his apostles to stop fighting and just accept it. If you, as a Christian, honestly believed and trusted in God and Jesus, you wouldn't worry about being bombed. Worst case scenario: you go to heaven, right?

But you do worry about it. And you want revenge. And you want protection through violence. And you're okay with torture, if it stops terror. But, if Jesus heard some of these supposedly "christian" people advocating war and violence, I think he'd vomit.

Being a Christian is about trying to walk Jesus's path, but many supposed Christians today are rejecting his path outright.

Mr. Gogee: At no point in this question or my comments have I intimated what my personal thoughts on the subject are. I'm simply asking people who claim to follow Christ how they justify indulging the violent solutions of humans when their own spiritual leader and "savior" advised exactly the opposite. It's a HUGE contradiction. You make a lot of justifications for violence (the "it's the way of the world" and "we're only human" approaches), but those justifications are exactly the OPPOSITE of what Jesus preached and did. When faced with his own death, he didn't fight back or "justifiably" defend himself. There were no reasons good enough for him to lead his apostles into war. He chose peace at the expense of his own pain and death. That was the nobility of his path.

Embrace whichever view you like... I don't care (and, yeah, I'd kill a burglar, without a second thought), but I'm curious how people who identify themselves as Christians justify the contradiction in themselves.

Quikzip: Turning the other cheek doesn't mean just sitting there and letting people beat up on you. It means that if you're standing on, say, your property and someone comes up and punches you to make you leave (or oppress you in some way), you don't fight back... but you also don't back down. You stand your ground, non-violently, and maintain your position.

In the case of 9/11, I believe President Jesus would've rebuilt the towers to demonstrate that terrorism is not going to drive us away or cause us to fall apart. He would blunt it's effectiveness as a tool by not allowing it to pull him into the human cycle of neverending, tit-for-tat violence.

Monie: I have read the bible If YOU read the bible, you'd see that, although there were wars and such, Jesus never led any. In fact, when asked, he refused to do so.

That goes for you too, Freebird. Jesus never "stamped out" anything. His message was love, even if that meant dying to further the cause of nonviolence.

For those of you "christians" who insist that Jesus would "crucify terrorists," "blow" his enemies "off the map," "lead a war," etc:

The Bible's final reference to "an eye for an eye" is in the gospels: "You have heard it said, "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth." But I say unto you, do not resist him who is evil" (Matt. 5:38, 39). Jesus' standard fulfills and transcends " an eye for an eye." Governments are not merely forbidden to exercise arbitrary powers of coercion; Jesus forbids violence as a response to violence. This teaching is radical beyond belief and Christians have struggled with it ever since. Jesus saw what French philosopher Rene Girard calls "the inherent complicity between culture and violence"; Jesus saw the way humans have always employed scapegoating and severe, symbolic punishments to affirm their values and boost their egos. Indeed, He died at the hands of those who deemed Him a threat to the HONOR of Caesar.
--Paul Bischke

Answer 1

The "Official Story" of 9/11 is the REAL conspiracy theory. There is no doubt that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were orchestrated by the criminal elite of the U.S Government. Also, there is no evidence that suggests that the official story is true. The FACTS all lead to the TRUTH and that’s what I'm trying to give you.


A few things to consider:

1. OPERATION NORTHWOODS:

(Early 1960s proposal to JFK that we hijack our own aircraft as pretext to invade Cuba, drafted by the highest-ups of the U.S Department of Defense at the time. When Kennedy saw this document he was appalled and fired then Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Louis Lemnitzer. Just a U.S example of false flag terrorism as pretext to further the political interests of the U.S Government.

2. PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER “W199i":

(Signed by G.W Bush to specifically back off FBI/CIA from Osama Bin Laden's Brother)

3. WTC7 COLLAPSE:

(The building that was 300 feet away from the twin towers that mysteriously collapsed onto itself on 9/11. There were buildings closer to WTC twin towers that were damaged much more severely that stand to this day. It was not hit by any aircraft.

4. OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE AND ABLE DANGER:

It just so happens that there were drills ON 9/11 that were carried out by NORAD that simulated planes going into WTC towers and the Pentagon…(There were also drills in London during the 7/7 bombings simulating the same exact event) Coincidence? I think not.

5. OSAMA BIN LADEN “CONFESSION” TAPE:

This is the only proof Osama was behind the attacks and it obvious the video was manufactured propaganda. For one, even though the video is grainy and of low quality, it’s obviously not Bin Laden. In the video he is writing something on a notepad with his RIGHT hand. Bin Laden is LEFT handed. A gold ring is also visible on his ring finger. Gold jewelry is forbidden for religious reasons.

Osama also said that he never attacked us. He said that it would have been against his religion to attack a group of people unprovoked.

OFFICAL STORY: Fire from within the WTC buildings weakened the steel within the structure causing it to collapse...No building with a steel frame structure ever fell because of fire… Not to mention lease owner of the WTC complex Larry Silverstein said himself that he "pulled" the building...A common demolition term for "demolish".

It takes weeks and weeks to plan a demolition. I guess Silverstein had a demolition team go into WTC7, Analyze the structure, unpack the explosives, set up the charges, and demolish it in about 8 hours. All during the biggest national crisis this generation has seen.

How about all the witness testimony saying they have heard and felt explosions within the WTC towers?

I could go on and on...If you decide to call me dumb, moronic, or Un-American be my guest. Just realize that personal attacks on me only give me more weight in the argument. Do your own research...Realize that you are losing your liberties more and more each day...Just look at the Patriot Act, The Patriot Act completely skews the constitutional rights of citizens.

Pass on all of your knowledge to your friends and family. Enlighten everyone you know.

For the sake of Liberty and Freedom it is imperative that you take this information under your wing and spread the word as your patriotic duty. DO NOT BELIEVE ME…Do your own research like I have. Look up these documents. Put the puzzle together.

Uncovering 9/11 is the only way we can stop this war on humanity (A.K.A terrorism). Help save the lives of the American soldiers that are being wasted at the disposal of the New World Order.

It’s about time to wake up America...Before it is too late.

Answer 2

Thanks for your honesty.

First off there are many who claim to be Christians but aren't . Just because you are in a garage doesn't make you a car. They may be or not - I don't know. Christians aren't perfect. It is God's mercy and grace that saves a person. They cannot get into heaven on their works. God says all men have sinned. This isn't an excuse to do wrong. But it is the truth.

But the administration has their reasons to kill terroists. If someone broke in your home and werre to harm your children or ? , what would you do. Give him a plate of cookies and a smile ? Of course not . I would do what I could to prevent the intruder from doing harm even if it means killing them if necessary.That is biblical.

Sadam was an evil leader no doubt. I think the administration lied and they weren't being honest with the Amercan people. I am glad Sadam is out of there. But with war you are going to have a lot of problems. At times war is necessary. You are living in country because of wars fought. Remember the Revolutionary War ?
So do you think Hitler should have been left alone. He murdered millions of Jews and Christians. Look at what Japan did in China and the Phillipines. War was the right thing to do.

In war there will be civilian casualties unfortuantely. and soldiers will torture out of anger. You are not over there. So you don't know what war is like. What the US has done is not right in regards to torture. But let's be honest here. What country involved in a war didn't torture ?

So I am not for what Bush did even though I am a Christian. You shouldn't generalize. Anymore than just because Mao and Stalin murdered millions of their own people .They were atheists but I wouldn't say all atheists are terrible people.

As far as Jesus goes, Jesus is President of the universe. And one day He will judge eveyone for their thoughts and actions. Judgement day is coming. For Bush ad you and I.

It is so easy to look at the evils that others are doing and not look at ourselves. Do you have hate in your heart ? Do you have unforgiveness ? Are you treating your girlfriend or wife with love ?
How are you treating others ? How are you treating yourself ? doing drugs ? Looking at porno disrespeted women as playthings and not as human beings ?
You see put the mirror on yourself.

Answer 3

Jesus can't be President...He's the King of Kings !!

He'll do the following in sequence:
1) tell George W.Bush to step down as President
2) resurrect all the dead
3) replace the towers with new ones in 3 days
4) crucify everyone who is responsible for the attacks (this might not necessarily mean the terrorists)

Halleluyah !

PS: I'm not a Christian. I'm a free-thinker with Bible knowledge and I'll stop here for a while.

Answer 4

If Jesus were president maybe he would have already made peace with Al Qaeda? And he probably wouldn't have staged a terrorist attack to be able to wage war and restrict civil liberties in order to further his families economic interestes, which is what the Bush administration did.

Answer 5

United States of America is non-secular country. George Bush has don everything being a president of such country and not being Christian. Everything done for Country, society and family is acceptable.

Answer 6

Jesus would have protected his people however possible againsr the evil in this world...9-11 was pure evil and Jesus staomps that out

Answer 7

He would touch the smouldering ashes, and the towers would rise again, and the people inside and on the planes would come back to life. "Go, and sin no more" he would say to the terrorists.

Now even an atheist like me could respect a guy like that.

Answer 8

If you read your bible there have always been battles and wars and the Christians have always had God on there side.... i think Jesus would have blown them off the map

Answer 9

Jesus would never have run for president anyhow.
He wasn't into politics.
He was much too busy with really important things, like teaching people to love one another.

Answer 10

he would pay money tributes for the families of the victims of American terrorism in Iraq in the 1990s. stop supporting the Zionist terrorism in Palestine, and make peace.