Okay, maybe you can argue this..or maybe you can't?

Question

Recently scientists (yes, scientists..you know the people who you turn to for answers to your beliefs instead of God the Creator) then found a protein in humans that ONLY is found in two things--humans and dirt. So argue me on this, if God didn't create man from the earth like the Bible says he did, then why are we the only things in this universe other than dirt that have that protein? Maybe I can't explain who created God, but maybe you can't explain why we have a special protein thats only found in dirt..ya know, the dirt that God created you with?

Most of these answers I'm getting are nothing but mockery...I don't mind though because I know you're looking for a real answer but can't seem to muster one up that might actually prove me wrong on this whole thing.

Answer 1

We are more a part of this universe than just some creatures created by God, our relation to our surroundings is direct and we are in fact the universe struggling to understand itself. The physical human being can be summed up by these elements found naturally on Earth resulting from the blasts of dying stars.

Answer 2

First of all the earth didn't start from any "tiny piece of dust". In fact, it orginated from a giant cloud of dust and gas, which was all drawn together by gravity to form a planet. Life, on the other hand, originated from amino acids which formed from plausible pre-biotic conditions on our planet.

However, that being said, that doesn't disprove your point, which, basically summed up says that everything has to come from a creator because we can't explain how everything came to be so long ago, how matter came into existence and so forth. Therefore, something must have created it.

BUT, is it also not possible that it was just there forever? That time existed since forever? That EVERYTHING was just there? After all, in our current system of physics, no matter can be created or destroyed, so why couldn't that have been the rule at the very beginning (if there was one at all?) So W\why does anything have to have a creator?

Let me make an analogy: People "create" things whenever they reform matter, like building schools or make babies, by a conscious will or action. We want to build a school or make a baby (or at least have sex, a conscious action). On the other hand though, what about mountains or rivers or volcanoes? Those are not consciously "created", but are only a result of naturally occuring forces. They have no reason for being, no creator to speak of.

I'm not discounting your point at all. It is a valid question. But there are more possible answers than "there must be a creator". And just to let you know, I'm not a rabid atheist or evolutionist. I'm an agnostic. So just to make sure you know I'm not just trying to shut you down, I'll say with some conviction:

God bless you.

And I hope you read this.

Answer 3

Did you actually know that proteins are created in the body using DNA as a template? So, even without evolution, it wouldn't make sense that ours are from that dirt. Dirt, as far as I know, does not contain viable DNA. So those proteins must be made from something different. Like decomposing other proteins. There's always that. It seems like the most likely explanation.

I didn't really understand what your explanation consisted of, unless you think that the dirt that created Adam had those proteins and it is being spread out among every human that has followed, which doesn't make sense to me, because if that's how it worked it would be indetectable by now I think. That's alot of people! : )

And evolution would explain that protein as being significant to some function that only humans have. I mean, Apes (our closest relative) and humans are 98% the same, but that means that we're 2% different (genetically) and that 2% of DNA would encode proteins that they don't have.

Although if the scientists that study dirt and proteins in it say it's a mystery, I believe them. They're the experts, right? If you want to find some things that they have no explanation for in science there are plenty of those. I mean, the hows of quantum entanglement, and things like, how do animals learn language are pretty big mysteries. Science can't answer them at all. That's what makes it so scientists still have jobs, there are more mysteries to explore! Finding out there are a couple more unexplained things in the universe is nice, not scary. There's no reason to resort to god to explain them. I mean, that's what they make science for, is to explain the world so that later we can predict it. That's how all the technology is made.

It sounds like you like to argue, and you like to think about problems, I recommend you take some science classes. As long as you're ok at math I think you would like them alot. I also think you would do well.

Answer 4

You're missing the point. Its been found in humans and dirt SO FAR. The chances they are even done checking every protein on earth are in the region of zero, let alone the universe.

I'm guessing you're a christian of some sort. If so your God has only been around for a few thousand years or so (though Christ himself of course has only been around for 2000). This is a very short amount of time in terms of how long humans have been wandering around, in terms of the Universe, Your God is almost as child-like as we are.

I have no problem in people believing in God as a creator of all things, but to believe so rigidly in one of the numerous God-based human control mechanisms shows a distinct failure to understand logic, and a misguided if not poor education.

Answer 5

God did create the earth and humans just like the bible says. People who try to argue with you about it haven't really studied science all that much or they would know that a lot of Scientists who don't believe in God believe that there was a creator.(intelligent design) Too many facts are showing that.

Answer 6

I tried to find info on that on line i could not. Would you mind putting up your sources please so i can study it and make an intelligent decision. Right now the only reason i could think of is the protein got into dirt by decomposing humans and still i doubt that would cover the entire planet. If this is true. I can really see no way other than the creation story.

Answer 7

How about citing your sources? Until you do, it must be treated as just more of your rhetoric.

But ASSuming there's a grain of truth to your grain of dirt argument....beats me. I'm not a scientist. I don't have to prove anything.

Feel better now? You have a REALLY stubborn case of low self esteem, and you're letting your temper get the better of you. That's not very christian, now is it?

Answer 8

I read that somewhere too..actually I think I saw it on cnn. It's so pathetic people would rather choose to believe they just happened by chance. Hey here's my question for evolutionists and atheists, you keep using phrases like "started when things in the universe" and "particals in the universe"--ok so who created the universe? They don't have an argument, they really don't.

Answer 9

Science laughs at your silly fairy tale. So do yourself a favor and don't try to use science to support you. You will fail miserably.

Meanwhile, comparing a modern scientific theory that has some parts that aren't proven, to a wild guess from 2000 years ago that HAS BEEN disproven is... well, insane. Your argument has no merit whatsoever.

Answer 10

I haven't seen that news item but your argument follows the same faulty logic that others have used. Just because there is no current scientific explanation for something, why come up with a supernatural one?