If you can't tell me where God came from?
Do you think this is a reasonable guideline to debate here?
2006-07-10 07:28:44 · 17 answers · asked by mikayla_starstuff 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I'd also like to comment that saying God was always there doesn't help because we can only speculate about the origins of God the way we speculate about what was before the Big Bang. There is no reason to think that if the Bing Bang wasn't the beginning of all thing (while it would be the beginning of *this* universe) there is still no reason to assume an intellegent and complex being came before. We just don't know, and that is the point I am trying to make. So until science makes huge strides into this matter (I doubt theology will make any progress here) it's really pointless to argue about it.
2006-07-10 07:39:57 · update #1
Oops I meant:
"Even if the Bing Bang wasn't the beginning of all thing (while it would be the beginning of *this* universe) there is still no reason to assume an intellegent and complex being came before."
2006-07-10 07:40:54 · update #2
notthemamas1:
Much too long. You expect me to read that?
2006-07-10 07:54:57 · update #3
Actually notthemamas1 I did scan over your answer and I see some old arguments that I've seen refuted before. Like the bit about societies on earth having flood myths--what exactly is that supposed to prove? They do not point to the bible flood. If I get time maybe I'll get to the rest of your answer.
In the meantime I'm asking for a brief answers, not full length articles.
2006-07-10 07:58:57 · update #4
The shortened answer is better.
But when you make the claim for sure that there is such a God are you not making the same claim to knowlege that you say the positive atheist is making? Have you felt God with your own senses? Can you prove he exists? And do you claim to know how the universe started?
Besides this is a tangent--the question was on making a ground rule for debate . . .
2006-07-10 08:07:06 · update #5
Neither question can be answered. This is the point. No one knows where God came from (If you believe there is a God) and no one knows how the universe started. There is nothing to debate.
2006-07-10 07:35:55 · answer #1 · answered by Michael F 5 · 2⤊ 1⤋
To say there is no God is to say you have enough knowledge to know there is no God. But an atheist can never have enough knowledge to be certain there is no God. He would have to know everything, because if there is something outside his area of knowledge, that something could include God. An atheist would have to be everywhere in and out of the universe all at one time, because if there is anywhere he cannot be, God could be there.
No atheist can claim total knowledge, therefore atheism is self–refuting, because knowing everything and being everywhere is to be like God. Since no one can prove ‘there is no God’, the question becomes irrelevant and so does atheism. Thus, Creation cannot be ruled out as a potential alternative.
Is that better?
2006-07-10 07:46:27 · answer #2 · answered by notthemamas1 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Aahh, but this is no formal debate, my friend. Here such rules can not apply and they need not. Sometimes you just have to take the bitter with the sweet....you win some you lose some. If you aren't satisfied with the answers you recieve ask us again. Besides do you not want to keep things interesting? It would not be too great if everyone said exactly what you wanted to hear or if maybe no one said what you didn't.
2006-07-10 07:41:17 · answer #3 · answered by rainsparrow 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The two may or may not be directly connected.
Physics is slowly coming closer to telling us the "how" of how the universe came to be. It doesn't do a terribly good job of telling us "why".
I think us humans really need both to get a good mental handle on things.
2006-07-10 07:33:56 · answer #4 · answered by jrlatmit 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
the anti matter, cosmolgy physics stuff should be left in the science dept. Leave some room for blind faith and mumbo jumbo. It can't all be about reason, logic and the quest for answers.
They ought to rename the sight, YahooWedon'tneedanyanswersaswebelieveamen.com
2006-07-10 07:33:19 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
hes just there.l in the bible, it says he always was, he is, and alsways will be. it also said that it is too complicated for us to understand, so thats why i just accept it. u should try it too, cus the thing that caused the big bang would have had to do that too, unless it was created by a divine source, which is God.
2006-07-10 07:33:51 · answer #6 · answered by xXBrudu BXx 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
God came from God and if you don't believe in a higher power then what do you believe in because science falls might short of explanation.
2006-07-10 07:33:46 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
"came from" is a spatial-temporal concept. If God created the universe from a state of being outside of it, then such temporal concepts are completely inapplicable to him.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=1006051105342
2006-07-10 07:31:53 · answer #8 · answered by evolver 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i cant tell you, as much as i would like to know, i have to rely on faith to even believe that he is there.
circular logic i know, but He will let me in on the secret when i meet Him.
of course it is a reasonable guideline to debate here, as long as the **HATERS** will stop flaming us.
i do welcome their input, however, because they may ask a question or make a comment that will allow me to grow in my faith, or prove to me once and for all that God does not exist.......but i doubt that last part :)
-eagle
2006-07-10 07:34:01 · answer #9 · answered by eaglemyrick 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Extremely reasonable
2006-07-10 07:31:32 · answer #10 · answered by mrodrx 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋