Evolutionists, atheists, or anyone who answered my last question..?

Question

So, I asked all the evolutionists and atheists this question: If the earth was made from dust, where did that dust come from? The answers I got were ridiculous. Nobody could argue and the ones who did were just making up crap and using big words so make it sound sophisticated. I got alot of "I don't know" answers and also alot of people saying evolution started when a bunch of chemicals combined and so on.. So here's another question for you: Where did those chemicals come from? Who put them there? Or wait a minute, did those chemicals come from something else? So what did they come from and who put the thing that they started from there? Argue that, because I'd really be interested in hearing your sad arguements.

4 answers already and not one of them can answer this...thats so sad that you call yourselves atheists and evolutionists and you can't even stick up for your own beliefs.

Hmm..Still waiting for someone to answer my "where did the chemicals come from" question....oh wait you did, the "big bang"--ok well who started the big bang? And to answer your many questions on who created God, well no one. He has always existed and always will.

Answer 1

Amazing how people insist we be open-minded to you, yet you sit here and insult us for not believing everything happened exactly as Genisis put it.

But then, I doubt you'd care, after all, we're just a bunch of sad, sad people with sad, sad arguments.

Answer 2

First of all the earth didn't start from any "tiny piece of dust". In fact, it orginated from a giant cloud of dust and gas, which was all drawn together by gravity to form a planet. Life, on the other hand, originated from amino acids which formed from plausible pre-biotic conditions on our planet.

However, that being said, that doesn't disprove your point, which, basically summed up says that everything has to come from a creator because we can't explain how everything came to be so long ago, how matter came into existence and so forth. Therefore, something must have created it.

BUT, is it also not possible that it was just there forever? That time existed since forever? That EVERYTHING was just there? After all, in our current system of physics, no matter can be created or destroyed, so why couldn't that have been the rule at the very beginning (if there was one at all?) So W\why does anything have to have a creator?

Let me make an analogy: People "create" things whenever they reform matter, like building schools or make babies, by a conscious will or action. We want to build a school or make a baby (or at least have sex, a conscious action). On the other hand though, what about mountains or rivers or volcanoes? Those are not consciously "created", but are only a result of naturally occuring forces. They have no reason for being, no creator to speak of.

I'm not discounting your point at all. It is a valid question. But there are more possible answers than "there must be a creator". And just to let you know, I'm not a rabid atheist or evolutionist. I'm an agnostic. So just to make sure you know I'm not just trying to shut you down, I'll say with some conviction:

God bless you.

And I hope you read this.

Answer 3

Well alright I'll take the bait. I'm not involved with aethists or agnostics or any religion. But to answer your question you must first understand to not knock on people who use big words. That being said I haven't seen the first question of yours.

I'll answer what I've seen so far, and then I'll add my personal note at the end.

The earth is not made up of dust, purely and simply. Instead the Earth has been made up of atomic particles, which is known throughout the universe. Atoms can be broken down into small parts like electrons protons and neutrons. By our very best understanding they too can be broken down farther. The more we know about the smallest things in the world (universe) the more we can understand how the Earth was formed. You now ask where did all these atoms come from, and that's the golden question. Some theories believe that all the matter in the universe was at one time compressed into a point smaller than a period in a sentence. It was from this some trigger cause a huge explosion and thus the universe expanded, things (atoms) got cooler and then gravity no less you are familiar with caused these atoms to clump together. It is by rather spectacular line of events that Earth formed (some may say dust--) nebular clouds, and all the other planets as well.

However there are alternate theories as well, the one I support the most due to my curiousity with things, is one that deals with black holes. We know black holes exist, and we know that they have a gravitational vortex (spiraling formation) that pulls on things so much light cannot escape (it moves really fast). It is my belief that from these black holes (caused by super huge stars running out of gas basically) condense matter so much it fits the same situation as stated before, and thus on the side of a black hole is another universe.

It may not make any sense to you, but I'm sure to materialistic people it makes plenty of sense. I hope that answers your question.

Part two, where do chemicals come from? I guess you are referring to amino acids (building blocks of life). These have been known to just radically form up, they are made up of the same things our universe is made up of, atoms. These atoms are already here, and I've told you how (without absolute fact, but the next best thing). Amino acids have been known to form in mud or even in ice. If you read popular science you cannot go two issues without reading something on the new discoveries of Antartica and it's clues to our (the Earth's) past. Now that you have been explained the chemical part of your question into existence.

On a personal note, I guess the first question you may have asked was a religious affair with how did life start. It sounds from your biased question you are a hardcore believer (of what I'm not sure), and my attempt to intergrate science into your thinking will no doubt be futile, but I did it anyways. There is nothing wrong with incorporating the two together, science and religion can live in the same world. In fact most scientist are religious. They work not to disprove God or some omniscient being, but rather to figure out how it was done. Nobody is going to change your mind but yourself, and we will never have all the answers. I put the best answers for you there and if you choose to ignore facts, deal with being ignorant and don't educate yourself. The bottom line is some people use religion as a source for answers and it is not really what it is meant for- religion is a way of life not some sort of encyclopedia of defined answers. Science is to find answers of how our world works, that is why both can live together.

I hope this helps you, seriously.

Answer 4

the unexamined life is not worth living -- aristotle said that, and personally I think that whatever god there may be would want its followers to have a faith in it based off of truly examining the alternative theories. Blind faith is driven not by belief, but by ignorance and fear. OMG electricity is coming from the sky! God created it let's hide and pray it doesn't hit us.
I'm agnostic, so I don't fall into your category of people who don't believe, I accept that maybe god created whatever exploded in the big bang.
Then again, maybe not.
Maybe 'god' is just what humans have come to define the driving energy of the universe as. Think about it, if there was a spark of energy that managed to create the big bang and all matter, and I mean quantifiable energy, then yes, that would be the definition of god.
That doesn't make god intelligent, but it does make it all powerful, everywhere, and the driving force and creator of the universe.
'course, if that little bit of energy was used up in creation then 'god' is dead and we're all just coasting on its ashes.
Essentially, I believe both sides are right, but I'm never going to know and I don't particularly care.

Why is 'I don't know' an unacceptable answer to you? Science isn't claiming to know everything yet. Do you still believe the world is flat?

I don't really know why I'm even posting, aside from the points. It's fairly clear from your posts that you're not actually interested in the answers, that you're full of pride (a sin according to your bible), have already passed judgement, and that you only want to bait people with what you think is a foolproof question.
Are you really so vain as to think you're the first person to ask this? Talk to a scientist, read some articles, get some humility and understand that science progresses in it's search for answers just like -- hopefully -- you'll progress in your search to become a good person.

Answer 5

So it's more believeable that some unseen spirit has just always existed and he/she put them there? So...what is god made of? Where did he/she come from?

And just to actually get into your question a little, there are basic elements and below them basic particles that make up matter...in different combinations they make up different things (i.e. all living things contian carbon in some form)...it was just a matter of time before the right combinations occurred...if you're implying that the most basic particles had to come from somewhere then why can't you accept the answer that they've always been there- you seem to have no problem thinking that about god...

Bottom line, you choose to believe what you do, but you can't back it up any more than those who don't believe, so stop crying...

Answer 6

I am a firm believer in creationism, but i am offeneded by the way you asked this question. I believe you weaken any arguement you have by calling names and having an attitude. However i dont feel that people are asked to conform to the way creationists believe nor do i believe that one is even asked to keep an open mind, quite the opposite actually. One is usually encouraged not to believe in anything. I understand that you do not have to believe the exact same thing that i do but it would be nice if someone would step up and admit the believe in something. because no matter what- evolution, creationism or any other belief as to how the world came to exist takes an ounce of belief.

Answer 7

Firstly, if you really want to know people's opinions and the known facts on such things, maybe you could start by not insult the people you're asking? Do you really expect to get any calm and rational answers when you refer to them as "sad" before even hearing them?

It sounds to me that your mind is made up already anyway, so how about I save us both some time - you go do something else and stop flamebaiting on this site, and I won't bother wasting the keystrokes to answer your question.

Was that "sad" enough, or did I use too many big words for you?

Answer 8

Why are you so resistant to the idea that we simply don't know? Again, there is no shame in admitting that we do not have the answers to certain questions at this time.

Now, because we don't know enough about the origin of the universe, we cannot say precisely where the inorganic chemicals that made life on Earth possible exactly came from. We do know that they are made of elements that were present from very early on in the formation of the universe.

Other than that, I don't know how to show to you that "we don't know right now" is a valid answer at this time.

Answer 9

Exactly! And some people may ask "if there is a God, who created him?", well no one created God. He is the beginning and the end. He always was, always is, and always will be. If someone had to have created God, than who created the "big bang"? And the chemicals and dust particals that people say created the big bang? Hmm? God created EVERYTHING!

Answer 10

No, you're right, we can't provide more arguments! Science has indeed failed in providing any clear answers. Therefore, the only viable option is that God created the Earth in 6 days, and then rested on the 7th, letting Adam and Eve to explore the Garden of Eden.

Having failed to give any results, science is useless and should be banned. I'll start buring books and you go witch-hunt the scientists.

But enough irony.

Little girl, do not confuse lack of answers or your inability to comprehend the ideeas stated with lack of proof or inability of science to prove how the Earth was formed. Go pick up a geology book or go to wikipedia.com and search for Earth or Cosmology and learn for yourself and then make up your mind about this subject. But then again, you seem comfortable in your ignorance, to the point of fighting to keep it, so just ignore my last comment and just Praise Jesus!

Answer 11

The origin of everything, including time, comes from an event sometimes called, "The Big Bang". The Big Bang itself is still not clearly understood. If you are really interested in exploring the origins of the universe, enter "The Big Bang" in a search engine. Keep in mind that if you are a Christian, none of this is going to conform to your spiritually driven understanding of existence.