Is there proof that God exists?

Question

Did you see that they found the Ark of the Covenant? I have it on my 360 page. It's harder not to believe in God than to believe in Him...more work to convince yourself of his nonexistence. Anyway, you can't get to him through Reason, though I must say some of you guys and gals are brilliant. Be nice now!

Answer 1

yes...the Bible and creation are 2 evidences.

Answer 2

Surely the whole point of "faith" is that proof is unnecessary. The very fact that theists are attempting to offer pseudo-scientific or archaeological evidence indicates a shift in the terms of debate, away from faith and onto empiricism. The thing is, all the empirical evidence, if you scrutinize it closely, is against the theists. A bit of dug-up wood does not an ark of the convenant make. "Proof" is something that cannot be disputed. the "Ark" is certainly not in that category.

Personally I find not believing in God effortless, because "No God" is the natural and obvious state of the universe, until proof comes along to show otherwise. You should stick with faith if you want to believe. The search for "proof" is futile.

Answer 3

yes there's proof God exsists even without the find of such a thing. Look at all creation. He created it all. Look at your skin closely, each piece is knit together perfectly. All the trees and grass point to Him, thats why they grow up pointing higher and higher to him. You can if you want explain it away that an accident happend to get our skin and that the sun is the reasons for the trees and grass. But there is a reason God placed the sun where its at, the trees and grass point back to God.

Look at the wings of butterflies and dragonflies. They are so intricatly designed. You can say an accident happend with them too as so many people say, but I don't know about you, but I've never had an accident come out looking pretty or so neatly formed. A car accident, those look horrible (one where they have to use the jaws of life) Its an accident, but it doesn't look pretty. Course I say your stretching it if you say its an accident.

You can also call for eveloution, but doing a study on it, evolution doesn't gain knowledge as so many claim, but lose information. If we were supposed to evolve from apes as so many claim, that would mean we are dumber than they are because we lost DNA from when they started. Imputing DNA is not phycially possible. It can't be done!! Not now, not ever. So you also have to rule out evolution. So the only thing left about creation is God, who created everything.

Answer 4

Obviously there's no proof that god exists, and it's pretty obvious that in fact there are no gods. Of course in the future some evidence for the existence of gods may appear, and we'll have to reevaluate this, but right now there isn't any.

All of the "of course he exists" or "of course there's proof" responses really reflect the effectiveness of religious systems, whose main purpose is of course self-perpetuation. If the belief in question were anything other than a god's existence, you'd never accept such an obviously false belief, but over thousands of years we have evolved these religious systems that are incredibly effective at getting people to say that they believe things that are obviously untrue, so "the existence of god" gets a special pass, as it were.

I do agree that it is harder not to believe in god than to believe in a god, but that's a social matter, not one of evidence. The fact that none of the responses to this question actually include evidence (let alone proof) for a god's existence illustrate the situation pretty clearly.

Answer 5

Let me get this straight. A box is "proof" of the existence of a magic sky-pixie to you?
Tell me, would you like to buy a bridge? I have a nice one in Brooklyn to sell, cheap!
PTBarnum was right about people like you wasn't he?

Oh and by the way, there is NO credible evidence to suggest that this charlatan has found anything other than an Egyptian relic. But if it makes you feel better to delude yourself (and clearly, it does) then by all means, continue.
I on the other hand, will stick to reality. You may want to check into it someday...

Answer 6

There is no "proof" that God exists. There is no "proof" that God does not exist. That is where faith comes in.

To Icarus: You argue both sides to the same, but opposite, conclusions, then say that the second one is valid? How does that work? I could just as easily say that the 1st one of your arguments is true. Reason, as you are fond of quoting, will tell us that something exists unless it can be proven not to. Your reason arguments in your response to this question, leave it open. You "beliefs" lead you to conclude the second one is true. BTW both of the arguments you presented here are circular and have no good answer.

Answer 7

No it is not harder to not believe in God (if there is one). God exists to answer the questions that science is incapable of answering at this point in time such as: Why are we here? or Why do we exist? God is just a label...maybe I'll insult you and say God is Allah, Buddah, Mohammad, etc.

If you accept that the origins of God(s) were to answer questions that science couldn't in the past like: Why volcanoes errupt, Why the sun rises and sets, etc. Than you know that man has always needed answers and created a method for pursuing them science and a method for answering when that science failed God(s). It's easy to set aside the idea of God particularly when you think/realize that the vast majority of stife in our world is a directly or indirectly a result of arguements over how to believe, what to believe, and who that God is. Check out WWW.UUA.ORG...PEACE!

Answer 8

What has the ark got to do with God - that's just religion. I think just being you is all a thinking person needs to prove the existance of a higher being pulling the strings cause we sure are the ones bouncing about at the other end.

Answer 9

All reasoned arguments rely on axioms, i.e. things which we take to be true, but which are not amenable to proof. The most obvious example of an axiom is the validity of reason itself - It is trivially obvious that we can't use a reasoned argument to prove that reason is valid, because we have to presume that reason is valid in order to make any kind of reasoned argument.

I have another axiom, which I'm sure no sane person would dispute: That the order and complexity that we see around us in the natural universe, and particularly in the intricate structure and functions of living organisms, could not possibly just exist fully formed, with no cause, no origin, no precursor of any sort. I can't *prove* that this is the case, but it seems inconceivable to me that anyone would dispute it.

So, the logical consequence of accepting this axiom is that, for the very same reason, it's not possible that the order and complexity of the universe is sourced in an intelligent deity who designed and made the universe and *himself* exists fully formed with no cause, no origin, no precursor of any sort. I don't think any reasonable person would dispute the axiom presented here, and acceptance of the axiom leads to an indisputable proof of the non-existence of an intelligent creator.

Anyone who (against all reason) asserted that the order and complexity we see in the universe *could* indeed exist fully formed with no cause and no origin, in order thereby to save the concept of an uncaused intelligent designer, would find that they had invalidated said designer by making him redundant - i.e. if the order and complexity of the universe could just exist fully formed and uncaused then it would not need (in fact, could not possibly have) a designer to cause it to exist.

Either way, the concept of a creator is invalidated.

Answer 10

The trouble with Icarus' argument is that it rests on the assumption that the need of a creator for a complex, physical universe is equal to the need of a creator for a singular, nonphysical being. I'm sure Icarus will cry "special pleading", since I don't doubt he has a personal reason for wishing to explain God away, but to those with open minds the difference should be apparent.
Furthermore, Icarus' proof is not of the nonexistence of God, but only of the flaw in a common "proof" of God's existence...the unmoved mover argument, which is itself only one of many reasons for belief in God.
I, for instance, believe in God because I have seen him. Obviously, anyone I talk to can assume I'm lying or mad, but from my perspective there is proof, since I know I am not lying and to doubt my sanity in this would require me to doubt it in all things, and therefore lead to no conclusion at all.

If you are looking for evidence, research miracles. There is a wealth of information out there, and while those who are dead set against belief in God have faith these will be proven, someday, to be non-supernatural, those who are honestly seeking answers might find them intriguing.

Answer 11

If you believe God exists, then he does for you. Just don't blame him for your actions on this earth, or what may happen to you. Have faith in yourself first and foremost. Whether or not God exists will remain a mystery for all of us until we pass on to the other side. Many people have different "gods" in their life, it is great you have such strong feelings for yours. may I ask, was your faith this strong before the Ark was found? Did you need proof? If so, then why fault others for their confusion, and the need for concrete answers before they believe.