What is the real American Death toll in Iraq????

Question

When a solder dies in Iraq or Afghanistan, unless they die in the field they aren’t counted as part of the American military death toll. For example if I’m in Iraq and I’m wounded and die right there, I would be considered part of the war casualties, But if I’m wounded and transported to a hospital, and die later, I’m not going to be counted as part of the official casualties of war. Why is this? I read that as many as 10,000 American solders may have died in this war so far? But the government probably just doesn’t want us to see those numbers.

Heres one sorce, Im sure It wont be good enough for some of ou..http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=11372 Some times the forgen press is more accurate them our "liberal" Media here in the states!!

Heres a another as you can imagine their hard to find, again thanks to our so called "liberal" media!

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1669.htm

sgt_k
While I repect your opinion, I strongly disagree! as I said before Sometimes the forgen media is more reliable than our own. I love this country and I love our troops and I dont like seeing them die over in a strange country a world away from their family. George Bush is systematically distroying this country, If he cares so much why has he cut funding to every veterans program in the nation, Why did he find it nessisary to lie about our reasons for going to war in Iraq, Well needless to say I could go on for hours abot GW's Faults but they will just will be falling on deaf ears. And dont get me wrong their are VERY FEW politicans Rep and Dem that are honest, But you pick the lesser of the two evils and run with it. I can not speak for you but I'm Not better off now than I was went GW took office and I dont think the country is ether, But again Im sure all of this is falling on deaf ears, Im assuming you are or have been in the military, so thank you for your service, I hope one

one day you will see the truth.

Answer 1

If you die in Iraq you are counted. If you are injured in Iraq and die in America you are counted. There was one casualty where an Airman was run over by a vehicle and she was counted. I think the casualties are over 2,500. Some have had heartattacks and are counted. If someone is fighting for their country, no matter how they die, they die a veteran.

Answer 2

I think you have part of the story OK. I am sure that the Bush Administration avoids all of the responsibility that it possibly can. But it is also true the AP news outfit is counting KIA and others. But you can be very suspicious about accurate counts in accidental deaths, suicide, murder and fatal transport into Iraq. Also, sometimes death comes years later as you said as a result of wounds and diseases caused by or exacerbated by or other physical conditions like heart disease and PTSD, POST Traumatic Stress Disorder.
Troops come home and drink and drug themselves to death trying to handle the guilt, fears, nightmares, and flashbacks that are part of getting into combat. The public in general, not the mothers, friends and family that lose sons and daughter, but a very high percentage or the general public lose interest or can't handle thinking or feeling about the war they supported that ruined and destroyed so many American lives. These wars also are losers to begin with, and it is such a waste of young life.
Where is the leadership?

Answer 3

I've never heard that one before. However, independant contractors are not reported in the death toll. The military has outsourced thousands of 'security' jobs to outside corporations, something that they've never done before. Regradless of your opinion on that, those deaths of 'security' forces are not counted. As a result, the death toll for American troops is artificially low because they would be doing many of the jobs that have been outsourced.

Answer 4

If you want an ACCURATE count of American casualties in Iraq, check out http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm .

Casualties are broken out in categories of Named Dead, Reported Dead, Wounded and several categories of evacuated personnel. It is updated on a daily basis and gives the figures for each month we are there. Statistics go back to March 2003.

As far as the US not reporting casualties accurately - to the tune of 10,000 versus the 2600 reported - don't buy the hype. The press would be ALL OVER IT. Families of the dead soldiers would be on EVERY newscast screaming about it.

Use a little common sense.

EDIT: And al Jazeera is about as accurate as Baghdad Bob was when he reported that there were no Americans within a hundred miles of Baghdad - just as American soldiers appeared behind him.

EDIT: Any news source that refers to the death toll as a "butcher bill" can hardly be considered objective. Why not just use some Michael Moore propaganda?? Or how about moveon.org? Is this the liberals latest attempt at spinning things for the elections in November?

Nice try, Jennifer R, loveben. It is nice how you keep changing your name. Tells me something about you. So do your other answers. For instance:

* In response to whether you believe the official version of what happened on 9/11, you wrote:

"I don't believe the "official" story for a second, I think theirs alot we don't know and alot we will never know, And yes I do think that G.W. Bush had something to do with it!!!!!"

* In response to a question as to whether Iraq was safer under Saddam, you wrote:

"It was defiantly safer under Saddam. At least people weren't getting blown up all the time!"

* When asked about your political affiliation, you stated:

"Democrat all the way!!!!!"

* When answering a question asking if Bush was a Nazi, you replied:

"I totally agree!!! MANY of the policy's that he and his cronies push are VERY reminiscent of fascism."

* In response to "Why is America terrorizing the world," you wrote:

"You have to remember George W. Bush is a arrogant fool and not all Americans share his views and fact most don't, Because as you may or may not know he stole both elections and was never truly elected by the American people."

You state, "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism- Thomas Jefferson." I submit that you have no idea what that statement means. In order for that to happen, you have to understand both sides of an issue. Blind dissention is dangerous - and your statements show that you have no idea what dissent is. You have a hatred of President Bush that blinds you from the truth. You and your kind are dangerous because NO MATTER WHAT SIDE OF AN ISSUE THE PRESIDENT TAKES, you will be against it.

You have been outted as an idealogue. No one should take you, your questions or your answers seriously.

EDIT: The brave - 20,000 dead AND 20,000 injured, huh? Look at the statistics of ANY war - American or otherwise. The number of wounded in action is generally about TEN TIMES the number of killed in action. So, you are putting forth that this is the FIRST WAR IN HISTORY that the number of dead equals the number of wounded? Get real, and try that propaganda BS somewhere else. And I CHALLENGE YOU to post the "American website" you got this information from so we can determine how free from bias it is.

EDIT: Jennifer R/loveben - You are correct in assuming I am in the military (15+ years and counting), and I DO see the truth. The truth is that the United States has been at war with radical Islam since the Beirut Marine barracks attack in 1983 - we, as a country, have just failed to see it that way. Our response has always been nothing to miniscule - maybe lobbing a cruise missile at a camp in the desert. What has that response gotten us? Absolutely nothing except more and bigger attacks.

These are people who do not care that I am a conservative and a Republican or that you are a liberal and a Democrat. They do not care if you are white, black, brown, yellow or indifferent. They do not care about religion or about morals. They only see hatred - hatred of freedom, hatred of free markets and, ultimately, hatred of themselves.

They have only been taught one thing in their lives - to hate and to kill Americans. From the time they can walk, they are shown videos of Americans being killed and dragged through the streets - this is normal for them. They only understand one way of life - violence and death and destruction.

We tried the "bargaining route" for eight years with Reagan. It got us nowhere except more attacks. We tried the "dimplomatic route" for eight with Clinton. It got us nowhere except bigger attacks. We are now trying the "military route" - and it is working. This is the first approach that has resulted in fewer terrorists walking the face of the earth. They are coming in droves to Iraq to try to kill Americans - and we are only too happy to send them on their journey to find their 72 virgins.

Most Americans agree that we will ultimately have a violent clash between us and Islamist facists. The ONLY thing we disgree on is the time and place it should occur. The leader of our nation has done his job and chosen the time and the place. In the process, he has liberated 50,000,000 people and created democracies on either side of Iran. Let the man in the Oval Office and the men and women of our Armed Forces do their jobs. I would MUCH rather do the job than put it off and have my two sons have to fight it.

Now, like you, I have a feeling that what I am saying is falling on deaf ears. But let me tell you, I understand your position - I just think you are dead wrong. Think about us fighting this war versus our CHILDREN having to fight this war. Which option is more attractive for you?

By the way, I volunteered to go to Iraq this coming October. This is one conservative Republican who puts his money where his mouth is.

Answer 5

I heard this during a radio interview; of course I've forgotten with whom. I will do some research.

Add: Haven't found it. I did find that they're underreporting casualties, i.e. injuries.

Answer 6

sorry dude, but unfortunately it's not 10,000. even the anti-war people i have spoken to might say the government has tuned it down from 3,000, but 10,000 is total ****.

worse comes to worse, 22,000 wounded, 3,500 dead. that still isn't as far off from the official records as in most wars...

Answer 7

If one dies in Iraq he/she is counted. If you die in the United States ( Hospital ) and you were shot in Iraq you will be counted.

Answer 8

Well then, why don't YOU tell us?

Begin with where you read your casualty figures or we'll just assume that you're just another lying Democrat who wouldn't know the truth if it bit your nose.

Answer 9

I've checked several sources and I find your information inaccurate. Could you please post a source so I can see what you are talking about?

Answer 10

20.000 dead
20.000 injured
I got this information on an American website