Benjamin Franklin, in "Toward the Mystery."
2006-07-09 06:07:24
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answered by Anonymous
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Benjamin Franklin - here are some more
In a sermon of October 1831, Episcopalian minister Bird Wilson said, "Among all of our Presidents, from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion, at least not of more than Unitarianism." The Bible? Here is what our Founding Fathers wrote about Bible-based Christianity: Thomas Jefferson: I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth. Jefferson again: Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and importers led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus. More Jefferson: The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ. Jefferson's word for the Bible? Dunghill. John Adams: Where do we find a precept in the Bible for Creeds, Confessions, Doctrines and Oaths, and whole carloads of other trumpery that we find religion encumbered with in these days? Also Adams: The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Adams signed the Treaty of Tripoli. Article 11 states: The Government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion. Here's Thomas Paine: I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible). Among the most detestable villains in history, you could not find one worse than Moses. Here is an order, attributed to 'God' to butcher the boys, to massacre the mothers and to debauch and rape the daughters. I would not dare so dishonor my Creator's name by (attaching) it to this filthy book (the Bible). It is the duty of every true Deist to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible. Accustom a people to believe that priests and clergy can forgive sins...and you will have sins in abundance. The Christian church has set up a religion of pomp and revenue in pretended imitation of a person (Jesus) who lived a life of poverty. Finally let's hear from James Madison: What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyranny. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy.
oh yeah and Abraham Lincoln: "The Bible is not my book nor Christianity my profession. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."
2006-07-09 13:10:53
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answered by Voodoo Doll 6
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Well, it was actually Benjamin Franklin... who was never President of the United States and was a "Unitarian" and not a Christian. He didn't believe in the divinity of Christ.
Some sources on the web have also attributed the quote to Dirty Harry...
2006-07-09 13:09:26
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answered by Paul McDonald 6
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Good thing I was here. Some appear to be trying to pretend that both Jefferson and Adams were something other than theists. WRONG
Jefferson found many things in the Christian Bible upsetting (as do many here). He was particularly annoyed by any section which seemed to run contrary to the teachings of Jesus. So he wrote his own Bible, eliminating those parts which he found objectionable and adding things he thought appropos. But the words, "endowed by their Creator" would never have appeared in the Declaration of Independence without him.
As for whether or not he was a Christian, these are his words:
To the corruptions of Christianity I am, indeed, opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian, in the only sense in which he wanted anyone to be: sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence; and believing he never claimed any other.
As for John Adams, he felt some of the same things Jefferson did, but with nowhere near the vehemence. These are his words:
“The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity…I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and the attributes of God.”
[June 28, 1813; Letter to Thomas Jefferson]
“We recognize no Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus!”
[April 18, 1775, on the eve of the Revolutionary War after a British major ordered John Adams, John Hancock, and those with them to disperse in “the name of George the Sovereign King of England." ]
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
[letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress]
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --October 11, 1798
Both were strongly avowed Christians, albeit with reservations about the forms and dogma of the established religions. And both concurred that it was the basic concepts of Christianity as espoused by Jesus, that were the foundation of our documents of freedom and of law.
2006-07-09 18:22:06
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answered by ALLEN F 3
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A prez? I would have guessed Mark Twain.
2006-07-09 13:07:54
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answered by Wise Old Witch 5
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I'm just guessing but I'll say FDR.
2006-07-09 13:07:31
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answered by moonwatermuskoka 2
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You did.
2006-07-09 13:07:59
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answered by karen wonderful 6
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Washington...I don't know.
2006-07-09 13:06:21
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answered by Anonymous
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And where is this going, please?
2006-07-09 13:06:19
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answered by Anonymous
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