Isn't claiming Bob did it just as valid as claiming "God did it"?

Question

Since creationists cannot support their claim that "God did it," isn't any other unsupported claim just as valid?

Isn't claiming monkeys created the universe just as valid as "God did it?"

If not, why not?

love you to, purple. How could I not with a name like that?

That is the point. If we can arbitrarily name something or anything as a "creator," then how can anyone assign specific attributes, or even existence, to him or it?

I would never encourage anyone to adopt a belief (or disbelief) that he was not comfortable with. Atheism is not for everyone.

Maybe monkeys are who is referred to in the bible as being made in God's image.

Maybe "Adam" & "Eve" were really Chimp & Chimp Mate.

Who knows? Nobody seems able to prove any of their assertions about the "creator."

Answer 1

whats in a name JT lol
i think whatever name you give it ..your are agreeing to a creator
this is my thought on god anyway ... god is just the given name .. and that's why i believe that each religion in essence has the same god
it may be an alien , or a monkey as you said .... whatever the case its a mighty intelligent monkey yeah ?
love ya JT :o)

Answer 2

I've always had a sneaking suspicion that Bob Barker created the universe.
Anyways I've recently made a realization while answering another question on this website. I'm sure my idea is not original, but I feel that god and/or all religions exist because of an instinctive desire or urge of humans to not want to leave any question unresolved. I think humans like closed ends. The fact that there are so many religions that all share a belief in god is not proof that god exists. It is only proof that all humans think alike and have many many common desires.
I'm sure just about everybody has heard stories, true stories, about people from modern cultures visiting primitive cultures for the first time. And the primitives would often think of the gadgets that the visitors brought with them as godly. Objects like cameras, flashlights, guns. Yet we know their true origin. So doesn't current religious beliefs about the creation of the world and universe fall into the same?
I think you are wrong. It was Jeff that created the universe.

Answer 3

Using already stated reasoning you can rule out monkeys. The proving/disproving argument for/against God, "Natural-Law", used to prove - but has since been disproved - God's existence.

An example of Natural-Law: the planets orbit the Sun in a particular fashion because God made them do so. Or as you put it, "God did it". Basically, Laws need a lawgiver. Logical right?

It has been disproved, however. Besides the fact that a great many things that were once held as law are now understood as statistical averages or chance. Also we've since discovered things that don't abide strictly to laws such as atoms.

Mainly however if you ask "Why did God issue just those natural laws and no others?" there are two conclusions.

1. Either He did it out of his own pleasure and for no reason, but then you find something that is not subject to law and "natural-law" is interrupted

2. "If you say, as more orthodox theologians do, that in all the laws which God issues he had a reason for giving those laws rather than others -- the reason, of course, being to create the best universe, although you would never think it to look at it -- if there were a reason for the laws which God gave, then God himself was subject to law" and therefore "You really have a law outside and anterior to the divine edicts, and God does not serve your purpose, because he is not the ultimate lawgiver"

Substitute monkey for God if you like, still disproved.

Answer 4

Bob isn't God. To claim that monkey's created the universe is just plain illogical. You might as well say the sky is made of rocks and water is a solid.

You'd also have to toss out the theory of evolution as it would be impossible for monkeys to exist prior to the creation of existance, and in turn the creation of life. If monkey's did create the universe, then monkey's could never have evolved.

Answer 5

Sure, I can agree with that. I worship God in a way that makes sense to me. I accept that the Bob theory could be a valid one. While I hold my beliefs as sacred, and I put forth faith in them I acknowledge there are other religions out there and they could be the correct one.

I would become an atheist if being a theist did not feel like the right thing for me. Whatever makes you happy.

Answer 6

Poor misguided J T. You're wrong, you know. The Flying Spaghetti Monster created everything. Says so right here in The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Repent, and be touched by His Noodly Appendage. RAmen.

Answer 7

i think of non secular pluralism is a political thought, not in all hazard a non secular thought. In civil societies we recognized that specific issues are important to genuinely genuinely everyone ... families case in point, and additionally faith. the place relgions do not lead their followers to break the regulation, we realize that they might have a place in society ... places of worship, some allowance to their followers to video demonstrate specific days, placed on specific products .... and in that experience all religions are the two valid. So no certainty claims are being made with regard to the religion. this is being tolerated, in fact, presented it accepts that for the time of a civil society all religions are rather marginalised, and could make no specific claims on the well-known public sphere. And maximum religions seem satisfied to settle for that, a minimum of interior the West. then back, there are aspects of difficulty, case in point the place non secular motives lead human beings to oppose regulations that enable abortion, or to apply violence against people who disagree with them the two religiously or politically. So civil society is a few thing that some religionists have blended thoughts approximately; they often choose the secure status it provides them, yet do not in user-friendly terms like the secure status it provides to those with differeing non secular ideals or merely diverse social ideals and values. If certainty claims are being made then your arguments are completely valid. the difficulty comes while religionists are asked to offer up their very own certainty claims, or to correctly known the validity in the well-known public sphere of alternative relligionists' certainty claims. that's a demanding tablet for an evangelical, of any faith, to swallow.

Answer 8

...it is because of the 'precision' contained in the universe, the stars, black holes, galaxies. we calculate our earth time based on the movement of the planets. the atomic clock is set in accordance with the position of these planets to an accuracy of 2/10,000th's of a second. an incredible mathematical feat. this suggests that the calculation itself came from an extremely intelligent source, like a 'god'.
monkey's, on the other hand, although they are intelligent and suitable for their environment are incapable of creating such calculations and putting them in motion.

Answer 9

The sky is actually very much made of rocks, and water is often a solid when it's frozen....which it always is in space.
To me, that means Bob created it.
I have a book that also tells me so, which is my solid proof.

Who's gonna prove me wrong?

Answer 10

This is why people are finally waking up and realising that the true god is a Flying Spagetti Monster. Just thought I'd put my theory out they're, now how did jesus convince people?


Oh ya- join our church or burn in hell!
WWFSMD


-and please DONT blame Canada, we have seen what you do to countries you don't like (Iraq)

Answer 11

Well, the Bob that i know sure as hell couldn't have done it. But if we can settle for a Hank, a Buddy or a Cindy then i could agree.

(of course i agree with your statement by the way) :)