who is the creator of god jesusor god or both are creator of each other..? God is claimed to have "begotten" Jesus (pbuh). Jesus (pbuh) is claimed to be the "Son" of God. "Beget" is a verb which implies an action. No matter how you define what God actually did in order to "beget" Jesus (pbuh), any definition must require that God Almighty performed some action and then Jesus (pbuh) came into being. Before God performed this action Jesus was not. After God performed this action Jesus came into being. Thus, not only is Jesus (pbuh) not eternal, since there was a time (before the "begetting") when he did not exist, but he can also never be co-eternal with God since God was in existence at a time when Jesus was not. This is very simple grade-school
2006-07-08
20:46:41
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For explaining the supposed "Trinity" away as a "mystery" does not hold water. In 1 Corinthians 14:33 we read "For God is not [the author] of confusion." Thus, confusion can never be His very nature.
2006-07-08
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Jesus was born of mortal women subject to the judment of God still you people say he was eternal please come up with sensible arguments
2006-07-08
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may you can write everything and describe everything but belief god as long as you realize
2006-07-08 21:16:05
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answered by rezamilanx 2
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God was never created, He has always existed, and by God I mean the whole Trinity. When it says God is not the author of confusion, it means that He does not make chaos; we live in an orderly universe with an explanation for everything, ultimately leading back to God's nature; the fact that we can't understand God always existing doesn't mean the reason doesn't exist, it means that we just can't fathom it. The reason we can't fathom it is because we have no idea what it's like to exist without time. God is the author of time, He doesn't answer to it, and his existence doesn't rely on it.
2006-07-09 03:54:47
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answered by C_Dawg 2
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Ok.. God is eternal. The word was with God and the word was God. Both co-eternal. JESUS, (the word in flesh) was BEGOTTEN by God. Yes. When the word (eternal) became flesh through God. THAT is "when", JESUS was BEGOTTEN. The Holy Spirit is also eternal and Jesus SENT the Holy Spirit to earth when he resurrected from the tomb. Get it? I know that it's simple grade school to understand but hopefully you can comprehend.
If not I can try to draw you a picture??
P.S. God is not the author of confusion.. but... God did, I must admit, make people who are easily confused. (Don't make me spell it out for you)
The Bible says that "They will hear but not hear, they will see but not see" In other words. You will hear the words but you will not be able to comprehend them... because your heart is not open to them. Therefore, it has nothing to do with the logic of it... it has to do with your lack of spiritual maturity, knowledge and understanding.
Mystery: A religious truth that is incomprehensible to reason and knowable only through divine revelation.
Confusion: Being unable to think with clarity or act with understanding and intelligence.
They are obviously two different things.
The latter sounds like a personal problem to me... ? ?
Jesus was 100% man and yet 100% God. Jesus is part of God in the flesh. He was sinless. He is not subject to his own judgement. Like I said. They will hear but not hear.......
2006-07-09 03:49:16
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answered by ? 3
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God is uncreated. Jesus was created by God. Therefore, Jesus is not God.
O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. (Quran 4:171)
2006-07-09 03:56:24
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answered by ward 2
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God created himself.
The trinity tells us that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one and the same.
Your problem is that you're trying to analyze this situation using logic and causality, but God is not constrained to such things.
2006-07-09 03:49:25
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answered by Jim 2
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Jesus was born of the virgin Mary...
Perpahs God did not perform any action because he could not.
I do not know, it is very confusing to me. But read my first sentence.
2006-07-09 03:53:45
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answered by xeroxpoop 3
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A better question is why are you here and can you find the peace that you are looking for. This site has the secret of life and you never need to ask again who created who.
http://phifoundation.org/life.html
2006-07-09 03:55:02
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answered by Anonymous
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Ugh! If you've read that you know that God made Mary pregnant with his only son, Jesus. No one created God himself, he has always been and always will be.
2006-07-09 03:51:09
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answered by sasperilla23 2
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Man created God or god's to justify the unexplained or the whim of his current need
2006-07-09 03:51:27
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answered by underdog 2
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Human. It is the most complex yet the most easiest and fastest to be ever created. Imagine, they just thought of something so that they can control others.
2006-07-09 03:50:46
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answered by athame 3
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there is no creater ofGod he is his son but his son Jesus came in the flesh and God is his son and the Holy Ghost.
2006-07-09 04:02:28
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answered by cev_95 1
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