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How can someone else pay for your sins? can someone else pay for your sins? In what sense is morality and justice served if someone, say, offers to take the place of a condemned criminal in the electric chair? Does this change the fact that the criminal has not been held responsible for his actions? And how is the innocent death anything more than a sad, pointless waste that doesn’t add a grain to the overall moral equation?

2006-07-08 08:33:30 · 14 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Murder is Murder, no matter what you call it. By the way, how old are you?
When you grow up you'll realize that their is NO GOD, that it is merely a figment of humankind's collective imagination to allay, ease, or soothe mankind's guilt or worries. Kind of like Jesus Clause, and his prophets, ($ profits $) or Elves.
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2006-07-08 12:11:36 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Well, the Creator of the Universe gets to make the Rules. His Holiness and Righteousness demand a price to be paid for Sin. The acceptable price for a person's sin is blood. Just as if you borrow money from someone that person gets to decide what is acceptable to repay the loan. They may insist that only you can repay the loan or that someone else may repay it for you and at what, if any, interest rate. God said that blood is indeed needed to pay for sin. But He also said that if imperfect humans will accept His completely perfect Son as their Lord and the Son would willingly give up His life the debt of sin, past and future will be paid. God does not excuse Us from the consequence of Sins, we must live with the consequences of our sin even if we accept Christ's death for our sins. So in this way morality is preserved. Just as you might drive while drunk. You hit a parked car and get arrested. A rich relative pays your fines, penalties, and such. You get out of jail but leave with a wrecked car and arrest record. The law is no longer punishing you but your life is not unaffected by your past deeds.

Justice is served when the appropriate penalty is paid for the crime. If the crime happens and the penalty isn't paid then Justice is mis-served. We can disagree with how God does things. But who is more likely to be wrong, God or us? Let's remember that Pride was the first Sin that got everything else rolling downhill.

The death of the Innocent in place of the condemned criminal is not a sad waste. It is the highest form of Love anyone can show for another. Maybe you wouldn't volunteer, nor would I, but let's not minimize the noble act. We would expect the criminal to be grateful for his continued life. But God doesn't just free all condemned criminals, He frees the repentant ones while not shielding us from the consequences in this life of our crimes.

2006-07-08 16:04:38 · answer #2 · answered by Anthony M 6 · 0 0

You don't understand how God works. He said His Son, Jesus Christ, died for our sins. We need to repent for our sins (that means acknowledge we did wrong and not do it again). No one takes our place to repent for our sins. You are way off when you think putting a murderer to the electric chair is wrong. That person has take another life, premeditated murder, and deserves to go to God for final judgement. In fact, the Bible says just that, to send the murderers to God. Rape is also considered to be in the same category because when a woman is raped (or a child) it robs that person of themself, essentially creating a "death", though not literal, but a spiritual sort of death.

Someone taking the place of a criminal is just plain stupid. Nothing more.

2006-07-08 15:40:48 · answer #3 · answered by MadforMAC 7 · 0 0

The blood of a Clean Animal needed to be sacrified as a Sin offering until Christ died on the Cross for our Sins.

Christ did no Sin but he paid the Penalty for our Sins so that if we accept him our Sins are removed no matter what we did.

2006-07-08 15:38:01 · answer #4 · answered by MrCool1978 6 · 0 0

It's all in who is attempting to make the payment.
If the person attempting to make the payment is guilty of the same crime as you are their attempt has no meaning and it is a sad, pointless, waste.
But if the person making the payment has not committed the crime it is a valid payment.
The Bible says "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23) We are all guilty of the same crime. That means that no person on earth is able to pay for my sin or your sin.
God/Jesus Christ is the only one who has not sinned and is therefore the only one who can pay for our sins. (Hebrews 9:14). Ephesians 1:7 says "In Him we have redemption through is blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace"
Why would Jesus be willing to do this? The only answer I have is love. And it blows me away that He would love me enough to shed His blood and pay the penalty for my sin.

2006-07-08 16:18:30 · answer #5 · answered by KEK 1 · 0 0

You have to start at the beginning. Adam and Eve were perfect. They had free will. They disobeyed God's command not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad which would be sinning, the penalty for which was death. (Genesis 2:16,17) We inherit sin, and thus death, from Adam and Eve because we were born imperfect. God made provisions for us to be brought back to a perfect standing before him. God's perfect law requires a corresponding ransom for what Adam lost (perfect standing before God). Jesus, replaced what Adam lost by providing the corresponding ransom (a perfect life to replace the perfect life Adam gave up).

As for humans paying for the sins of humans, Psalms 49:7,8 says "Not one of them can by any means redeem even a brother, nor give to God a ransom for him; (and the redemption price of their soul is so precious that it has ceased to time indefinite)" The reason its ceased to time indefinite is that with the exception of Jesus, all humans are imperfect.

Regarding criminals, in Bible times the Mosaic law required "an eye for an eye". If someone committed murder, the "avenger of blood" (usually a relative of the deceased) had the right to put the murderer to death. Even if someone accidentally killed someone else, the avenger of blood could put them to death if they didn't run to one of the "cities of refuge" which provided protection and asylum for the murderer (or accidental murderer) from the avenger of blood. Once in the city of refuge, the murderer would stand trail at the city gates. If found innocent, he was returned to the city of refuge where his safety could only be guaranteed if he remained inside the city walls for the rest of his life or until the death of the high priest. This is all discussed in Numbers chapter 35.

These days, we have the legal system which is based on Masaic law. Imperfect as the legal system is, according to the Bible we are supposed to be in subjection to the secular authorities because they "stand placed in their relative positions by God". (Romans 13:1-4; Titus 3:1)

Its MUCH more detailed than this, but that's the Reader's Digest version.

On a happier note, God intends to rectify everything, but until then we just have to be patient and wait for him to determine when that time is. A great way to spend time until then is getting to know God fully and understanding his purposes and his will for us.

2006-07-08 16:12:48 · answer #6 · answered by Kelly L 3 · 0 0

In the old testament we can found blood-spilled sacrifices as you said. It represent Jesus that had died for us in Calvary. Once He had died for us, that's why we (or even the Jewish) didn't do such thing again. The penalty of sin is death, but with Jesus we will live an eternal live in heaven put our faith and fully surrender to Him.

2006-07-08 15:44:19 · answer #7 · answered by Patricia Jeanny 1 · 0 0

not any more. when Jesus died on the cross his blood was spilt and took the place of the once needed animal sacrifice. and your humanistic description of the electric chair, doesn't really compare to Jesus dying on the cross. The criminal needs to pay for his action.

2006-07-08 15:41:24 · answer #8 · answered by amanda_free2fly 1 · 0 0

The soul that sins must die (Eze 18:4). You have a soul, and like me, your soul sinned. It must die.

Jesus taught as follows ...

Mar 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Mar 8:32 And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.

Many people are like Peter and don't like this plan. Peter is rebuke and then Jesus goes on to teach...

Mar 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Mar 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.

Follow Him? Where to? He just told us. To death. The death of ourselves. The death of a soul whose nature is self serving, evil and corrupt. That soul must die.

Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

The old man ... the sinning soul is dealt with at the cross. Not just the cross that Christ hung on but the cross that Christ taught the world to hang on ... He is teaching you to hang on. People are entertaining someone 'in house' that is a murderer and who plans to take their soul to hell, who plans to kill you. It is not the devil, it is their own sinning soul! Think of it! You plotting against you! You bringing harm to you. Don't you think it's not wise to have such a desperate murderer on hand? Something should be done about him ... that sinning soul. He needs to be put to death! The cross of Christ teaches us how to do this.

The cross of Christ also cleanses our body (the temple) from all unrighteousness. It not only kicks out the old man, that sinning soul, it also purifies the house (you) that the old man once lived in. Listen, that old man made a mess while he lived there and there needs to be a cleansing. This cleaning makes way for a new soul to inhabit the house. A holy soul, who will not inhabit a house that is not clean. The Holy Spirit now dwells in the house and a new man is created ... a new soul ... not one that is self seeking, not one that will bring you to death but one that is powerful in the Lord and made in the very image of God.

There is much more that can be explained and exponded on and I surely desire to dig into this more but have already been long. I hope this points in a direction you may have not thought of and opens your mind to the incredible possibilites God has given us through Christ.

May the Lord bless you.

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2006-07-08 16:11:54 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Does blood need to be spilled.No
The penality for sin is death.

2006-07-08 15:38:34 · answer #10 · answered by racquel 4 · 0 0

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