That didn't quite fit, but why are people so selfish that they force people to stay alive even when they're so miserable they want to die just so they won't have to feel bad that the person died? And then they turn around and say that person is selfish for wanting to die, but isn't it more selfish to want someone to stay alive even though they want to die just so you don't have to miss them?
2006-07-08 05:15:12 · 20 answers · asked by Ellie 1 in Health ➔ Mental Health
You know, I've been trying my best to put myself in your shoes for about a week now, waiting to see if you have finally helped yourself. It's not my intention to be mean to you, but it seems to me that you are so self-involved, it's pathetic! You want desperately for people to feel sorry for you with your perpetual "cutting" questions, and then you turn around and symbolically slap the faces of those who are trying so hard to help you by asking a question such as this one! You answer other questions as though nothing is wrong and you have such valuable advice to give, and yet you seem to become someone else entirely by reverting to the "poor, poor pitiful me" mode! Who are you, really?! Are you so lonely that you have NO family or friends, and you have to turn constantly to a computer to give you solace??! Our attempts to figure you out, and to try to enable you to feel better about yourself are constantly met with your self-imposed Hamlet Syndrome, where you are whining "to be, or not to be" in one question, and then doing a complete "about-face" by giving a totally inane and unrelated answer to someone else!
I have reached out to you on three separate occasions, hoping beyond hope that you can turn things around for yourself, and create something hopeful for yourself. Yet you continue to mire yourself in pity and pathos, and come back with a question like this that says you RESENT people trying to help you!! What is it with you, if you can be honest?! We are going out on a limb for you, trying to help you with whatever self-important "trauma du jour" it might be! Do you actually WANT help or advice?? How long will you continue to moan and complain on this site before you actually take some positive steps toward good mental health?? We are opening our hearts and lives to you, and we get SQUAT for our efforts! Does it mean anything to you?!
I'm asking you to take a stand, one way or another! Don't toy with good Samaritans by looking the proverbial gift horse in the mouth!! One way or another, you're going to have to take action, whether it is to turn your life around, or cut yourself into a thousand pieces!! I'm asking you for your own sake: What's it going to be??!!
2006-07-08 06:21:30 · answer #1 · answered by Rebooted 5 · 4⤊ 1⤋
It seems to me that you are trying to find an arguement that suicide is ok.
However you cannot push the selfishness on to those around you for one very simple reason. You have not told them how you feel. If those around you do not know that you want to commit suicide how can they be being selfish.
If you had told them that you were lonely and depressed and given them the opportunity to try and help you and you still felt miserable and suicidal after their help, then possibly you could consider them selfish for wanting you to live. However until you tell them, the only person being selfish is yourself.
I understand that you feel that that life is not worth living, that there is no way your misery will ever end. But suicide is a very permanent solution and you really must try other solutions first. If you do not, because you find it dificult to talk, then I am sorry but you are trying to take the easy way out and it is only you being selfish.
Consider how those around you, particularly your parents, would feel if you were to commit suicide. It would not just be the fact that they would miss you, this is only natural whenever someone close to you dies, the main emotion they would suffer would be guilt. They would forever wonder how they failed to spot the signs of your depression and how they failed to give you the help you need.
2006-07-10 05:18:09 · answer #2 · answered by John H 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Ellie,
No matter how bad thing seem at the moment they will pass, sometimes of their own accord and sometimes with help from others.
If you really want help to make things better so that you can live a happy and fullfilling life, then please talk to someone about your problems, whether its a counsellor or a friend or a family member.
You aren't the only person in the world that has thought about ending your life prematurely. It would have been such a shame if I took the easy option two years ago. I wouldn't be here now living the life I have.
I guess all I'm trying to say is that no matter how bad thing seem right now the feelings won't last. you can be happy just as I am now.
I have to say though that when I was in most need of help, I just completly broke down in front of my family, who insisted I get help. I am so grateful to them, and to think I could've got help a year earlier and savee dmyself a whoel year of upset.
Please talk to someone who can help you Ellie. Life is a beautifal and precious gift, don't throw it away like I tried too.
2006-07-09 08:32:23 · answer #3 · answered by robert d 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It is not selfish either way. It isn't selfish for someone to want another person in there life, it's love not selfishness. Wanting to die is not selfish either. It is a way to get out of the present. Wanting to die is more of a healing then being selfish. They want to die because they have a cut that wont heal unless the body is put to rest or they seek help.
2006-07-11 00:02:44 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Ok. I know what your feeling. I felt like that before. It's not selfish to want to die. And it's not selfish to want someone to stay alive. The reason I don't want you to do anything is because I've been there. It does get better.
2006-07-08 17:10:12 · answer #5 · answered by Jenn 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't think it's them being selfish. I think it's them loving someone so much they don't won't to be without that person. Once a person is gone you miss them and hurt because you loved them..
Then too people never know what will happen later in life. Sometimes we are depressed and hate life and oneday things are great out of the blue and we think man! I'm so happy.
People just want to be with the people they like and love.
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2006-07-11 00:56:27 · answer #6 · answered by ▒Яenée▒ 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
It all depends on the reason for death. I there is physical suffering or mechanical support then the decision to end ones life is ok. If there is a suicidal aspect then there should be an intervention. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I agree that we grieve because we are a selfish breed but allowing someone to die for no apparent reason is wrong. Good luck and don't do it or allow it to be done
John
2006-07-08 12:26:31 · answer #7 · answered by JOHN S 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
To answer your questions
1. I second your emotion...I think they do it because of the fear of heartbreak. They want to put off that pain as long as possible. This of course is just what you said...selfishness.
2. Yes, that is more selfish and I think this happens because most people fail to realize that we do not belong to ourselves really, nor other people, but ultimately to God. To spend time with others is a priviledge that stops only temporarily when we die. If you believe in the LORD then you'll see them again someday forever. I wish people always would strive to remember the good times, not what is missing.
2006-07-08 12:28:47 · answer #8 · answered by Sleek 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
No. I think it's selfish for someone to kill themselves rather than getting help to deal with whatever makes them want to do that. Frankly, I think it's a bit cowardly, too. It's a lot easier to die than it is to face life and it's problems and deal with them and still manage to be happy. Others see what the person who wants to die doesn't see about himself and about life. I've considered suicide many times but I'm glad I never did it. I wouldn't have the happy life I have now.
2006-07-08 12:20:38 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I believe it is more selfish to try to keep a person or an animal alive just cause you don't want them to go. If you truly love the person or animal, you will want what is best for them no matter what you feel or think about it.
2006-07-08 12:20:39 · answer #10 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think it depends on the situation... Terry Shivo there was nothing in writing stating she wanted to die... If there is someone who is just suicidal I don't think they should have the right to die, cause they feel like it being sad.. that's not all I lost My grandpa two years ago sure I am sad but it goes alot farther then that I miss having him around for advice, for a laugh etc,,
If someone is on life support and they want to die then sure!
2006-07-08 12:21:15 · answer #11 · answered by brenda4ever 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋