The weapon of Christians is hell, the weapon of Muslims is a sleeper; whats the weapon of Atheists?

Answer 1

Logic!

"Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. ... If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. ... If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?"

The Riddle of Epicurus, circa 300 BC, as quoted in Lucretius "On the Nature of Things".

Think about it:

How can God be all of these at the same time?

1. All Powerful
2. All Knowing
3. All Good
4. Exists Forever

If God is all powerful, how can man or anything else have free will? And if God is all powerful, then isn't he the most Evil being that ever existed, since everything that has every happened or will happen will be due to him? Then how can he be all good, but not all evil?

If God is all knowing, how can he regret doing anything (creating man - sending the Flood)? Can someone "fool God" by suddenly changing his mind and then changing it again? Doesn't God already know who will go to heaven and hell even long before they ever have been born?
Why would such a God want to create anything anyway? He knows how the "experiment" will come out ...

If God spent *forever* not doing anything, then does that mean that the world never existed "forever"? Why would a being who exists forever suddenly want to do something, when he spent forever doing nothing? If the world doesn't exist forever, and has a beginning and an end, then the world also stopped existing "forever" so that means that combined with it having been created, it's as if there was practically no time at all that the world ever existed?

Why would an all powerful, all knowing, and existing forever being want something such as obedience and worship? Does he "need" anything? How can he get angry and displeased at anything, especially something that he did himself (making humans do something, since he is all powerful)? And why would he want to burn and torture one of his own creations for something that he himself did?

If you say man has "free will", then does that mean that God no longer controls everything, or knows everything?

BTW, how can a being that exists forever, that takes up all possible space and then some, be "male" or even inhabit a puny thing like a body (of one particular individual, and not say equally you and me)?

Hindus, Jews, Chrisitians, and Muslims all have different answers to these questions, but not one of these can answer any of these logical questions without circular reasoning, or more ominously, saying "it's a Mystery" which actually means - "This isn't at all logical, but if you disagree with me here, I will have to kill you."

Seriously, how do Muslims out there feel about someone who says these things about God? What do Christians think such a person deserves?

BTW, all these arguments were thought up by the ancient Greeks about 400 years before the New Testament was written, and over 900 years before the Quran.

How come neither of these works address these questions, and get wrong simple facts too, such as there being a high mountain where you can see "all the kingdoms of the world" (a flat earth in the NT) or the sun going down into a muddy pool in the furthest West (another version of the flat earth, but this one with the sun going through it, from the Quran).

If God wrote these texts, and is all knowing, why didn't he get such basic facts about nature right, facts that any person in the ancient world knew when he saw a ship's sail sink over the horizon, saw the stars circle the North Star, or saw the circular shadow of the Earth on the Moon during a lunar eclipse (Aristotle wrote about this)?

How could God not know something that any ordinary person knew, or if he did know it, why then did he lie about it to people, and then what does that say about the truthfulness of these texts?

Please think about this, and try to come up with your own answer, and not quote some religous dogma such as "it's a mystery so there is no answer" or "only God knows" or "that's heresy so I won't discuss it". Even if you do think these things, please let these questions go through your mind, file them away for later, but think about them, and ask other people ...

Answer 2

"Lunacy, Stupidity, Irrationality, Intolerance, Ignorance, Insensitivity, Purposelessness, Meaninglessness, Reasonlessness, Pointlessness, Absurdity, Emptiness, Mindlessness, Profligacy. You take your pick."

Hey now I think he asked for what Atheist use as a weapon not the other religions....

I would say facts, science, truth, reason, logic. As well as discrediting the misinformation xtians or any other religion has but then again discrediting just leads back to the previously stated information "Facts, Scince, truth reason logic"


adyghe1985 how bad does it bother you knowing not everyone agrees with you. and does name calling someone stupid really make you feel better is that what Jesus, or whatever the hell you get on your knees for... is that what he would do?

Answer 3

If you mean what consequences do they threaten others with for rejecting their ideas, the answer would be suffering a brainwashed life of ignorance and having their free will compromised. How many atheists warn theists about this consequence? Most I have seen here do. So threatening people with consequences is a common thread between many atheists, muslims and christians; Accept our ideas or you will suffer.

Can you offer an argument to the contrary?

Answer 4

Lunacy, Stupidity, Irrationality, Intolerance, Ignorance, Insensitivity, Purposelessness, Meaninglessness, Reasonlessness, Pointlessness, Absurdity, Emptiness, Mindlessness, Profligacy. You take your pick.

Dylan B aren't you precious. Stupid, but precious.

Answer 5

adyghe1985

SAID


Lunacy, Stupidity, Irrationality, Intolerance, Ignorance, Insensitivity, Purposelessness, Meaninglessness, Reasonlessness, Pointlessness, Absurdity, Emptiness, Mindlessness, Profligacy. You take your pick.

hhhmm it sounds like you're talking about christians. we atheists dont need a weapon because we dont brainwash

Answer 6

Atheist don't need a weapon,we're not trying to push our belief
on anyone like religions do.

Answer 7

Reality

Answer 8

Weapon? I don't think that is quite the right term. Our tools of liberation would have to be enquiry & reason.

Answer 9

As compared to the first two, I'd say it's not wasting your precious life on empty promises.

Answer 10

Intellectual freedom.