The pre-Rapture was intorduced by John Nelson Darby circa 1840. It was not taught in church before Darby!!!! I think Pre-Rapture is a "Feel-Good" way of Keeping People in the Pues. SARCASM- HEY BROTHER YOU CAN LIVE WELL HAVE A BIG FAT 401K AND GET RAPTURED- WOW WHAT A INSURANCE PLAN!!!!"
2006-07-07
22:26:00
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Oh, yeah, the people say that If I don't believe in the Pre-Rapture, I'll be left behind? Really, Doubting Thomas still was called an Apostle!! and where is the scripture that says, "there will be two raptures, the one at the beginning and the one at the end?" Don't be a blind followerer, read the scriptures, it's just not there!!!
2006-07-07
22:33:49 ·
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Also, first century Christians were tortured and thrown to lions and cruscified on crosses by the Romans, they didn't get out of it, why should rich lazy christians get out of it?
2006-07-07
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I know what you mean I have read Revalation more than once, and I don't see how its even possible to believe that its a pre trip. I am still trying to decide if the bowls of judgement are different representation of the trumpets or not, but I am definately either a mid tripper or and end tripper, but not a pre tripper. I agree I think its just a make you feel all cozy inside kinda answer to that question. I mean why else would God even put people through tribulation if He wasn't going to use it to save some of them and how could we be there to witness to them and lead them to Christ if we weren't here. also why would the Bible warn us of the anti-chirst or even tell us whats going to happen if we aren't going to be here for it whats the point?
2006-07-07 22:47:08
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answered by anewcreation_84 2
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2016-11-06 01:16:19
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answered by ? 4
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the word rapture is not in the Bible.
if that many people are that righteous - the world would already be where it's still got to get - and certainly not the mess it's in.
God needs soldiers - not people who want to duck and cover and run away from the trouble - the tribulations.
The Master said, 'you were baptized by water, but i will baptize you by fire.'
we're at a critical time in history, and while the Book of Revelation says 144,000 of the elect will get taken up - to be elevated and help - not run and take a vacation. Bottom line in hedging your life's bet on the 'rapture' - ask yourself, are you one of the most righteous 144,000 out of all the billions of people on earth?
nobody can expect this - the righteous would know better than to even think that way - so better to get back to studying the Word and getting real answers and finding the real solutions.
2006-07-07 22:40:38
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answered by Kevin A 4
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Read Revelation. I was confused about the end times too, until I read and studied Revelation. There r still questions I have, but I guess I'll have 2 wait till I get 2 heaven 2 find out.
2006-07-07 23:39:04
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answered by Anonymous
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The Bible doesn't teach either a rapture or a 7- year (or 3-1/2 year) "great tribulation."
2006-07-08 01:46:58
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answered by flyersbiblepreacher 4
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Harpazo = Rapture
END-TIME BIBLE PROPHECY
The Messiah Lord Jesus said BIRTH PANGS would signal the time of the end (Matthew 24:8). There are NINE birth pangs, they are all PRE-TRIBULATIONAL and the 1st three already occurred.
The first birth pang was worldwide conflict coupled with famines and earthquakes (Matthew 24:7-8). Worldwide conflict was fulfilled in 1914-1918, major famines happened in 1918-1921 and most of the world’s major earthquakes began to occur since 1900.
The second birth pang was the restoration of a Jewish State (Ezekiel 20:33-38; Ezekiel 22:17-22; Ezekiel 36:22-24; Zephaniah 2:1-2). This was fulfilled in 1948.
The third birth pang was Jewish control of the Old City of Jerusalem (Revelation 11:1-2). For the third Jewish Temple (Tribulation Temple) to be rebuilt, Jerusalem needs to be under Jewish control and this was accomplished in the Six Day War in 1967.
The fourth birth pang will be the Ezekiel 38 war. Russia, allied states of Iran, Ethiopia, Somalia, Germany and Armenia will invade Israel. God will miraculously destroy the invading army by earthquake, civil war among the invading soldiers, pestilence, blood, flood, hailstones, fire and brimstone. This will bring a revival in Israel where many Jews will turn to the Lord, and Israel will spend 7 years and 7 months burying the bodies and burning for fuel the military equipment left behind (Ezekiel 39:9-16).
The 5th birth pang will be the development of a one world government (Daniel 7:23-24).
The 6th birth pang will be the splitting of the one world government into 10 kingdoms and this Ten Kingdom Stage will continue until mid-Tribulation (Daniel 7:24).
The 7th birth pang will be the revelation of the Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:1-3; Daniel 7:24).
The 8th birth pang will be a period of peace and false security that will be shattered by the Tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3).
The 9th and final birth pang before the Tribulation is the signing of the 7-year covenant between Israel and the Antichrist. THIS EVENT IS WHAT BEGINS THE (7-year) TRIBULATION - NOT THE RAPTURE!
The Rapture of the Church (1 Thessalonians 4:16-18) is also a pre-tribulational event (Luke 21:34-37; 1 Thessalonians 1:9-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10; Revelation 3:10; Revelation 19:6-8). The fact that the Church is not mentioned in any of the Tribulation Scriptures proves the Rapture is pre-tribulational. All raptured Christians will receive glorified bodies (Romans 8:22-23; 1 Corinthians 15:50-54)) and it can happen at any second.
THE FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 6-9 AND 17)
The Ministry of 144,000 sealed Jewish believers will bring many throughout the world to accept Christ.
There will be a powerful Ministry of Two Witnesses who will also be anointed Jewish believers.
A one world religious system (Babylon the Harlot) will rule. Under this one world religious system, many who are saved during the Tribulation will suffer persecution and death.
The Political system of the 10 kings of the one world government will continue.
During the first half of the Tribulation there will also be war, worldwide famine, death (1/4 of the world’s population will die), a huge earthquake, a blackout and a meteor shower. 1/3 of earth’s dry surface will be destroyed, 1/3 sea life and salt water will be destroyed, a fallen angel called Wormwood will make 1/3 of earth’s fresh water bitter, 1/3 of earth’s natural light sources will be destroyed, there will be another blackout and demons in the form of “locust-scorpions” will come up out of the abyss led by Abaddon their king and they will inflict harm and pain for five months upon those who are not sealed by God (unbelievers). Another demonic invasion will occur and the demons involved will be led by four fallen angels who will be released from the Euphrates River and this army will kill 1/3 of the earth’s population.
MID-TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES IN REVELATION 10-14 AND 17)
The Antichrist will war against the 10 kings, and during the war the Antichrist will be killed.
Satan will be cast out of the atmospheric heavens onto earth and will resurrect the Antichrist.
The Antichrist will kill 3 kings (the kings of Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia) and the 7 other kings will submit to him.
The Antichrist will kill the Two Witnesses in Jerusalem and the wicked people will celebrate this event. Three and a half days afterwards, God will resurrect the Two Witnesses and take them up to Heaven and the people who celebrated will become terrified. The city of Jerusalem where the murder of the Two Witnesses occurred will then suffer an earthquake which will kill 7,000 people.
The False Prophet will receive from Satan the power to perform great miracles and will deceive many. The False Prophet will command all people to worship the Antichrist and have persons create an image to the Antichrist. The False Prophet will use his satanic powers to give it life and the ability to speak. The False Prophet will cause those who refuse to worship the Antichrist and the image to be killed.
The False Prophet will issue his own counterfeit seal known as the Mark of the Beast and it will be placed on all those who surrender to the Antichrist’s authority and accept him as god. Those who refuse to take this mark will not be able to buy or sell. Those who take this mark will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.
The Antichrist will break the seven-year covenant he made with Israel, cause the sacrifices to stop, sit in the Jewish Temple, declare to the world that he is really God and set up an idol called the Abomination of Desolation in the Temple (Daniel 9:27; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15-16; 11Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 13:11-15).
Through the Antichrist and the False Prophet, Satan will attempt to destroy the Jews once and for all but he will fail because 1/3 of the Jews will succeed in fleeing into the wilderness. These Jews who escape will accept the Lord Jesus as their Saviour during the Tribulation (Zechariah 13:7-9) and while they are in hiding, God will miraculously provide for them (Zechariah 13:8-9; Isaiah 41:17-20). Divine intervention will also destroy the pursuing army.
THE SECOND HALF OF THE TRIBULATION (SUPPORTING VERSES FOUND IN REVELATION 15, 16, 18, 19, 20)
In the second half of the Tribulation, those with the Mark of the Beast will suffer skin sores, the remainder of sea water and fresh water will be destroyed, the sun will cause terrible burns and the wicked will blaspheme God. There will be yet another blackout and persons will suffer gnawing pains.
Babylon will be the center of world economy and political system but Babylon will be swiftly destroyed by fire and become uninhabitable for man.
The Antichrist will locate the Jews who sought refuge in the wilderness and surround them with his armies to wipe them out. The Lord Jesus will then descend from Heaven with His angels and Saints. He will come with great glory riding upon a horse and will destroy the Antichrist, the False Prophet and all of their armies. After this, a loud voice will cry out “It is done!” followed by the greatest earthquake in the earth’s history and hail weighing 120 pounds will fall.
At the end of the Tribulation, there will be another blackout, the stars will fall from the sky and the heavenly bodies will be shaken (Matthew 24:29), the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown into the eternal Lake of Fire and Satan will be cast into the Abyss and bound for 1,000 years.
THE MILLENNIUM
The Lord Jesus will reign over the entire earth during the Millennium. The Jewish and Gentile believers who survive the Tribulation will go on to populate the Millennium. Believers who died before and during the Tribulation and believers who were raptured will be present on earth during the Millennium and because they will have glorified bodies they will not reproduce. All believers will be given special tasks by the Lord Jesus (Revelation 20:4-6). There will be no wars (Isaiah 2:2-4), animals will return to the Edenic state and become vegetarians (Isaiah 11:6-9), people will not labour in vain but eat what they plant and inhabit what they build, there will be renovations in the heavens and earth and there will be righteous and unrighteous children born during the Millennium (Isaiah 65:17-25).
At the end of the Millennium, Satan will be loosed from the Abyss and will deceive and gather the unrighteous for a war against the righteous. This will be his final attempt to destroy the righteous and when the unrighteous of the Millennium surround the good people, God will send fire down from Heaven which will suddenly and massively annihilate all of the wicked people. Satan will then be cast into the Lake of Fire where he will remain in torment for eternity (Revelation 20:7-10).
THE GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT
The Great White Throne Judgment will be the next main event. The old heavens and earth will be done away with and all will stand before God’s throne to be judged (Revelation 20:11-12). Those whose names are not found written in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire which will be their final and eternal abode (Revelation 20:14-15).
THE ETERNAL ORDER (REVELATION 21 AND 22)
Those whose names are found in the Book of Life will enjoy paradise with God forever. The heavens and earth will be made new and the New Jerusalem will come down upon the earth making the earth like Heaven. All curses from the fall will be removed and the earth will be inhabited by the Triune God (The Father, Son and Holy Spirit), all angels and all of the righteous. The seas, moon, night and sun will be done away with and the glory of God will illuminate the earth. The River of Life will flow from God’s throne, the Tree of Life will bear health-giving fruits and leaves and the name of Jesus will be on the foreheads of all of the righteous.
2015-03-04 08:05:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Simply for the fact that God doesn't want those who are righteous and ready to have to endure the pain of the tribulation. It is for those who were neither cold nor hot. Those who weren't sold out. People will do whatever they want, however it is those few that are bound and determined to be ready when Jesus comes back to claim his children. If we are living the concsecrated life God desires, then our lives are challenging enough. We don't need to stick around and worry about the antichrist.
2006-07-07 22:49:45
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answered by lilefamily4 2
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As time passes, we learn more from the bible. That is why it was never preached before. The knowledge was not yet available from God. He made it hidden. Just as Christians in the 1600's would have no idea about some of the other prophecies in Revelation.
2006-07-07 22:32:58
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answered by Anonymous
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Any person who claims to understand the ramblings of the madman of patmus is just as nutty as he was.
This stuff wasn't meant to represent anything. It shouldn't have ended up in the bible. People who plan their lives based on that stuff should be put into mental institutions.
2006-07-08 02:05:02
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answered by Dustin Lochart 6
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my sister and I have different thoughts on the rapture, and we have decided, it really doesn't matter. When we get to heaven, which ever one of us was right, we will just say "I told you so"
2006-07-07 23:50:42
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answered by tobinmbsc 4
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