WaS JeSUS A TrOuBLe mAkER?

Question

CAN YOU CONCIEVE OF A MAN SURVIVING HIS OWN DEATH, I COULDNT NOR WOULD I. LET FEEBLE SOULS OUT OF ABSURD EGOISM CHERISH SUCH THOUGHTS.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF JESUS SURVIVING HIS OWN DEATH.

Answer 1

You've asked two very different questions.

Was Jesus a troublemaker? I think so. He turned most of the accepted church teachings of the day on their head. He told people that their piousness and righteousness was less important to God than their love, charity and humililty.

Did Jesus survive his own death? We clearly can't prove or disprove it. "I can't conceive of it" is not real evidence, any more than "I take it on faith to be true" is.

One piece of evidence I do find convincing is the disciples. They were a bunch of misfits, hiding out in fear of being executed like Jesus. When he died, they disappeared. Then something happened to make them come out of hiding and spread word of Jesus and his message all over the world.

What changed them? What made them no longer fear being executed? I can only believe that THEY believed Jesus had been brought back from the dead. That's subtlely different than saying it's evidence he did come back, but it's certainly evidence that they were convinced of it.

Answer 2

Dude, you're truly odd, and are obviously working at it.

The answer to the first question is like, well, Duh ! Of course. Anyone upsetting the status quo is a troublemaker.

Whether Jesus 'survived his own death' is a matter of faith. You can either believe it, or don't. According to the 'official account' there was a man who required proof, and stuck his fingers in the wounds that were to have caused said death. But of course, it COULD all just be hearsay. There have also been reports of other very holy people coming back after their deaths in some form.

If you define death as the heart stopping, doctors have been bringing people back from their own deaths for quite some time. It's not even a big deal any more.

So what's the absurd egoism you speak of ? Do you have a concrete explanation of how the complex chemical reactions in your brain have given you a sense of self awareness ? Can you prove that you exist ? Without a sense of self you would not be capable of posting here. Thus people strive for higher explanations of that which they cannot understand. At least at this point in history, I have seen no arguments that have demonstrably shown to have greater validity than others. All attempts to explain our existence as individuals end up being acts of faith.

Answer 3

Jesus was the story of Horus repeated 6000 years later and it was a symbolic story of the Sun God dying and rising again .therefore the father and the sun being the same ,

it was used to make the transition from Paganism to Christianity

with time the story became humanized ,until all the symbolism was forgotton ,and the people could not see the wood for the trees anymore.believing that they were worshipping real people or Godlike entities instead of Cosmic bodies as they had done before

as far as being a trouble maker .his .concept is still making trouble today ,his folowers plan to dominate the world ,and reduce the world population by 60%
not even speaking about all the wars in the past ,that were waged in his name,for his people.
just how much trouble makes someone a trouble maker
there is nothing that can beat this one

60% means billions of people .and they dont just reduce themselves with love and peace and waving flowers around.
far bigger boom booms are needed for that.

Answer 4

Depends on which side of the line you view it from. He was a savior for the downtrodden, but a troublemaker for the ruling elite.

Now, regarding the second part of your question, it is a matter of faith. If you believe in God, then you should have faith in His words that all people will rise from the dead on judgement day to face Him (paraphrasing). In that case, it is conceivable that Jesus would survive his own death.

However, if you do not believe in God, then it would be hard for you to accept the notion.

I would just like to add that there are many things in this world that we do not yet have the capacity to understand scientifically. May be in another 100 or 200 years, surviving death will be an understood phenomenon with defined scientific processes ...

Answer 5

You have 2 questions. Check it.
I do not believe that Jesus survived his own death. The rumor of him rising was created to give recognition to him even in Death.
No he was not a trouble maker, it is because of him that most societies have more than 2 classes of people; have, and have-not. He was for the rich to share the wealth. They are learning slowly. But we are better off than in Jesus time.

Answer 6

the position did you get that daft theory from? there is no longer something about transforming into as a lot as do with Jesus. in truth he disenchanted those who idea that he can be a king there and then. What he did do became disenchanted the delicate Jewish religious leaders by employing conversing with extra authority than they did. They became jealous of ways human beings depended on his words and the therapeutic he did. He suggested that the Pharisees were hypocrites because they taught one element, did yet another and loved to exhibit off their 'righteousness'.

Answer 7

It's not an easy task to tell the leaders of all the religions that they missed the point and the boat. He had to try and set it right as that was his mission. Even today 2000 years after his death we still follow the rites and not the message.I for one will follow his example and remind you all that God made all in a word, not the six day church story.
Read the bible

Answer 8

your question and your details are somewhat unrelated...but yeah, jesus was a troublemaker - read the biblical book of matthew for details (turning over tables, etc.)...

as far as "surviving" his own death, he didn't...according to christian tradition, he was resurrected from death (not the same thing), and he existed before birth, as well as after death...

i believe you can be very strong-minded and intelligent to believe these things, regardless of whether they are "true" or not...many intelligent people believe things based on faith rather than on experiential data...

Answer 9

Jesus was not a trouble maker. He died and in three days arose again, that is not surviving your own death.

Answer 10

Of COURSE Jesus was a trouble maker. If he weren't then what was the point. Jesus did not come to earth to comfort the disturbed. He came here to disturb the comfortable!