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I want to see if they get the irony.... I mean... no... they are out here on Internet fighting the good...uhh...uhh... fight... yea

2006-07-07 16:41:01 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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31 Meanwhile the disciples were urging him, saying: “Rabbi, eat.” 32 But he said to them: “I have food to eat of which YOU do not know.” 33 Therefore the disciples began saying to one another: “No one has brought him anything to eat, has he?” 34 Jesus said to them: “My food is for me to do the will of him that sent me and to finish his work. 35 Do YOU not say that there are yet four months before the harvest comes? Look! I say to YOU: Lift up YOUR eyes and view the fields, that they are white for harvesting. Already 36 the reaper is receiving wages and gathering fruit for everlasting life, so that the sower and the reaper may rejoice together. 37 In this respect, indeed, the saying is true, One is the sower and another the reaper. 38 I dispatched YOU to reap what YOU have spent no labor on. Others have labored, and YOU have entered into the benefit of their labor.”

39 Now many of the Sa·mar´i·tans out of that city put faith in him on account of the word of the woman who said in witness: “He told me all the things I did.” 40 Therefore when the Sa·mar´i·tans came to him, they began asking him to stay with them; and he stayed there two days. 41 Consequently many more believed on account of what he said, 42 and they began to say to the woman: “We do not believe any longer on account of your talk; for we have heard for ourselves and we know that this man is for a certainty the savior of the world.”

43 After the two days he left there for Gal´i·lee. 44 Jesus himself, however, bore witness that in his own homeland a prophet has no honor. 45 When, therefore, he arrived in Gal´i·lee, the Gal·i·le´ans received him, because they had seen all the things he did in Jerusalem at the festival, for they also had gone to the festival.

46 Accordingly he came again to Ca´na of Gal´i·lee, where he had turned the water into wine. Now there was a certain attendant of the king whose son was sick in Ca·per´na·um. 47 When this man heard that Jesus had come out of Ju·de´a into Gal´i·lee, he went off to him and began asking him to come down and heal his son, for he was at the point of dying. 48 However, Jesus said to him: “Unless YOU people see signs and wonders, YOU will by no means believe.” 49 The attendant of the king said to him: “Lord, come down before my young child dies.” 50 Jesus said to him: “Go your way; your son lives.” The man believed the word that Jesus spoke to him and went his way. 51 But already while he was on his way down his slaves met him to say that his boy was living. 52 Therefore he began to inquire of them the hour in which he got better in health. Accordingly they said to him: “Yesterday at the seventh hour the fever left him.” 53 Therefore the father knew it was in the very hour that Jesus said to him: “Your son lives.” And he and his whole household believed. 54 Again this was the second sign Jesus performed when he came out of Ju·de´a into Gal´i·lee.

5 After these things there was a festival of the Jews, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 2 Now in Jerusalem at the sheepgate there is a pool designated in Hebrew Beth·za´tha, with five colonnades. 3 In these a multitude of the sick, blind, lame and those with withered members, was lying down. 4 —— 5 But a certain man was there who had been in his sickness for thirty-eight years. 6 Seeing this man lying down, and being aware that he had already been [sick] a long time, Jesus said to him: “Do you want to become sound in health?” 7 The sick man answered him: “Sir, I do not have a man to put me into the pool when the water is disturbed; but while I am coming another steps down ahead of me.” 8 Jesus said to him: “Get up, pick up your cot and walk.” 9 With that the man immediately became sound in health, and he picked up his cot and began to wal
3 For, look! the [true] Lord, Jehovah of armies, is removing from Jerusalem and from Judah support and stay, the whole support of bread and the whole support of water, 2 mighty man and warrior, judge and prophet, and practicer of divination and elderly man, 3 chief of fifty and highly respected man and counselor and expert in magical arts, and the skilled charmer. 4 And I shall certainly make boys their princes, and mere arbitrary power will rule over them. 5 And the people will actually tyrannize one over the other, even each one over his fellowman. They will storm, the boy against the old man, and the lightly esteemed one against the one to be honored. 6 For each one will lay hold of his brother in the house of his father, [saying:] “You have a mantle. A dictator you ought to become to us, and this overthrown mass should be under your hand.” 7 He will raise [his voice] in that day, saying: “I shall not become a wound dresser; and in my house there is neither bread nor a mantle. YOU men must not set me as dictator over the people.”

8 For Jerusalem has stumbled, and Judah itself has fallen, because their tongue and their dealings are against Jehovah, in behaving rebelliously in the eyes of his glory. 9 The very expression of their faces actually testifies against them, and of their sin like that of Sod´om they do tell. They have not hidden [it]. Woe to their soul! For they have dealt out to themselves calamity.

10 Say, YOU men, that it [will be] well with the righteous one, for they will eat the very fruitage of their dealings. 11 Woe to the wicked one!—Calamity; for the treatment [rendered] by his own hands will be rendered to him! 12 As for my people, its task assigners are dealing severely, and mere women actually rule over it. O my people, those leading you on are causing [you] to wander, and the way of your paths they have confused.

13 Jehovah is stationing himself to contend and is standing up to pass sentence upon peoples. 14 Jehovah himself will enter into judgment with the elderly ones of his people and its princes.

“And YOU yourselves have burned down the vineyard. What was taken by robbery from the afflicted one is in YOUR houses. 15 What do YOU men mean in that YOU crush my people, and that YOU grind the very faces of the afflicted ones?” is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord, Jehovah of armies.

16 And Jehovah says: “For the reason that the daughters of Zion have become haughty and they walk with their throats stretched forth and ogling with their eyes, they go walking with tripping steps, and with their feet they make a tinkling sound, 17 Jehovah also will actually make the crown of the head of the daughters of Zion scabby, and Jehovah himself will lay their very forehead bare. 18 In that day Jehovah will take away the beauty of the bangles and the headbands and the moon-shaped ornaments, 19 the eardrops and the bracelets and the veils, 20 the headdresses and the step chains and the breastbands and the ‘houses of the soul’ and the ornamental humming shells, 21 the finger rings and the nose rings, 22 the robes of state and the overtunics and the cloaks and the purses, 23 and the hand mirrors and the undergarments and the turbans and the large veils.

24 “And it must occur that instead of balsam oil there will come to be merely a musty smell; and instead of a belt, a rope; and instead of an artistic hair arrangement, baldness; and instead of a rich garment, a girding of sackcloth; a brand mark instead of prettiness. 25 By the sword your own men will fall, and your mightiness by war. 26 And her entrances will have to mourn and express sorrow, and she will certainly be cleaned out. She will sit down on the very earth.”

4 And seven women will actually grab hold of one man in that day, saying: “We shall eat our own bread and wear our own mantles; only may we be called by your name to take away our reproach.”

2 In that day what Jehovah makes sprout will come to be for decoration and for glory, and the fruitage of the land will be something to be proud of and something beautiful for those of Israel who have escaped. 3 And it must occur that the ones remaining in Zion and the ones left over in Jerusalem will be said to be holy to him, everyone written down for life in Jerusalem.

4 When Jehovah will have washed away the excrement of the daughters of Zion and he will rinse away even the bloodshed of Jerusalem from within her by the spirit of judgment and by the spirit of burning down, 5 Jehovah will also certainly create over every established place of Mount Zion and over her convention place a cloud by day and a smoke, and the brightness of a flaming fire by night; because over all the glory there will be a shelter. 6 And there will come to be a booth for a shade by day from the dry heat, and for a refuge and for a hiding place from the rainstorm and from the precipitation.

5 Let me sing, please, to my beloved one a song of my loved one concerning his vineyard. There was a vineyard that my beloved one came to have on a fruitful hillside. 2 And he proceeded to dig it up and to rid it of stones and to plant it with a choice red vine, and to build a tower in the middle of it. And there was also a winepress that he hewed out in it. And he kept hoping for it to produce grapes, but it gradually produced wild grapes.

3 “And now, O YOU inhabitants of Jerusalem and YOU men of Judah, please judge between me and my vineyard. 4 What is there yet to do for my vineyard that I have not already done in it? Why is it that I hoped for it to produce grapes, but it gradually produced wild grapes? 5 And now, please, may I make known to YOU men what I am doing to my vineyard: There will be a removing of its hedge, and it must be destined for burning down. There must be a breaking down of its stone wall, and it must be destined for a place of trampling. 6 And I shall set it as a thing destroyed. It will not be pruned, nor will it be hoed. And it must come up with the thornbush and weeds; and upon the clouds I shall lay a command to keep from precipitating any rain upon it. 7 For the vineyard of Jehovah of armies is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah are the plantation of which he was fond. And he kept hoping for judgment, but, look! the breaking of law; for righteousness, but, look! an outcry.”

2006-07-07 16:54:03 · answer #1 · answered by Tim 47 7 · 0 2

if you're a Christian, then they're one interior a similar. you spot, Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus became genuinely a separate entity (as their beliefs are depending off Arianism) than God. maximum of Christian orthodoxy would reject this and would label something like JW as a cult because it deviates from church (maximum protestant and Catholic) teachings. Now, why do we believe this? some motives. There are references in John the position Jesus refers to himself as "i'm" in John 8 - actually employing the old testomony call for God as himself. He accepts worship from the blind guy in John 9 the position angels would not settle for worship in different passages. there is plenty to be stated right here yet appropriately to assert, Jesus did declare to be divine and did declare to have dominion over nature (ex. calming of the storms), demons (Jesus exorcising the demoniac), or maybe the potential to forgive sins (see Luke 5 - which in straight forward words God on my own had the potential to do). Secondly, there are discrepancies between the JW translation and what are the canonical gospels. The canon we may be able to hint back to unique elements (i imagine the Sinaiticus is the oldest that i comprehend of). there have been hundred of translations and copies, to the point the position you could stick to the paintings of a translator about why they chosen the words they used to translate the script. In JW copies, you gained't locate the names of the translators interior of their pages. it really is from a prohibition of bringing up elements from the Watchtower. If i imagine a canonical translation to be faulty, i am going to locate the translator and be conscious the position he will be incorrect. it really is the potential of verification the position because the JW Bible (the hot international Translation) don't have equivalent verification. also, there are some translations which make no grammatical experience contained in the unique Greek. John a million contained in the NWT, as an party, is this kind of passages. So, in Christian orthodoxy, the man of Jesus and God the daddy are both elements of a similar divinity (i.e. heads of the trinity). i believe, and many different Christians believe, the canonical gospels to be a extra precise and extra trustworthy representation of the reality than texts who state that Jesus isn't God. that is an similar savior. So, asking this question to maximum Christians would a pretend determination.

2016-11-30 20:22:45 · answer #2 · answered by dimicco 3 · 0 0

Listen buddy,

I think you're going a little far. We Christians are only trying to help you and may be if you actually read what the verses say, you'd have a different opinion. I am a Christian girl who uses scripture when I find necessary and not for the enjoyment of those who heal that Christianity is a joke. I'm so sorry that I've wasted your precious time by typing passages from the Bible that I think could help you. Next time you think of doing something like this, actually stop and think of way Christian do what they do. We "cut and paste", as you so eloquently put it, to try to send the word of God around and to get a point across. We don't want people to wind up in Hell because they don't care to listen to what we have to say. If you want verse on this page, may I suggest looking them up and putting them on here yourself. Maybe then the words will mean more to you because you're the one doing the work to find ones that would actually make sense with your case. Just try it out and then go right ahead and pull this stunt again. I seriously doubt you'll want to. Just try it, it can't kill you to try. You may actually enjoy it.

2006-07-07 17:53:47 · answer #3 · answered by Sereana 2 · 0 0

From a conservative practicing Christian:
It is counter productive to engage in a "battle" on this forum firing back salvos of Scripture to both honest inquiries from non-believers and baiting questions alike. Single Bible verses are meaningless to those who do not have the sense of tone of the book, the customs of the times, and any long term experience with a formal faith life.
An encouragement to seek out God and become familiar with his word would be more properly evangelical in nature.
Jesus spoke to all who would listen and didn't cram it down any ones throat. He did not force you to believe, (but he did give you clear picture of what was behind "door #2" if you didn't).

2006-07-07 17:01:55 · answer #4 · answered by electricpole 7 · 0 0

I hope that there is more to your oversimplified theology!!!

What you describe is essentially very true, however, there are details that must be addressed. The Bible needs to be read and careful thought must go into every doctrine that anyone would hold true.

The "cut and paste" method is used to point out various issues the Bible describes without browsing through a 1000 pages to find the issue addressed.

The "fighting the good fight" is certainly reserved to those who are sincere and diligent in their search for the truth.

2006-07-07 16:55:02 · answer #5 · answered by Exodus 20:1-17 6 · 0 0

What's your point. Does making fun of the people actually serve a point? There is no irony in people who are concerned whether you go to hell or not. It's your choice to believe it or not. But there will be a day where you are held accountable for you actions and what you did or did not believe.

Here ya go:
http://thekingsrings.com/romans_road/contact.html

2006-07-07 16:48:10 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Love
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears. 11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me. 12Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

2006-07-07 16:48:10 · answer #7 · answered by amadeushughey 1 · 0 0

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

John 3:16-17

2006-07-07 16:51:28 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Exodus 22:18 You shall not permit a witch to live.
How's that?

2006-07-07 16:46:20 · answer #9 · answered by valcus43 6 · 0 0

Alright I see the irony. Do you see the light?

2006-07-07 16:52:22 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Grow up man.

2006-07-07 16:54:17 · answer #11 · answered by lab rat 3 · 0 0

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