Why do people blame the problems of today on a lack of discipline of todays children?

Question

i have seen in a lot of posts that respond to spanking, that people think there are so many kids involved in crimes, drugs, etc. because the government is getting more strict about what constitutes child abuse..

if this is true then why do countries like Sweden (that completely ban spanking or hitting children in any way) have far lower crime rates (percentage wise) than America?

maybe swedish parents have found effective, non-violent forms of parenting?

kurt: in response to the website you presented, i can still prove the argument that there is no correlation between the US's crime rate and the "lack of discipline" seen among children today...

if the crime rate in the US is declining, then it is obvious that using corporal punishment on children does not deter them from committing crime later in life, as kids were physically disciplined more often, and more harshly years ago.. now, the trend seems to be that as the US cracks down on a parent's right to spank, crime also goes down...

which still proves my point--that the current crime rate (which seems high to many people) is a poor argument for pro-spanking advocates...

.... sherita h, isn't my whole point that not spanking your children will NOT land them in prison later in life...?

Answer 1

I think spanking here should also be ban ....the problem in North America isn't that the government is is getting more strict, it is people would rather resort to hitting as a discipline, then taking time with their children and doing some good parenting

Answer 2

Banning spanking has no bearing on the issue. The problem is that a growing number of parents today take no responsibility for the actions or shortcomings of their children. If their child fails a class, then it's because of the teacher, or the diffuclty of the coursework, or the other children in the class, etc. The root of the problem is NEVER that both parents are gone from the house ten hours per day and have no personal contact with their children during the week, except to wake them up in the mornings and put them to bed at night - everything else that happens during the day is someone else's job and the parents don't feel that they have to be an important part in it - except to place blame on others every once in a while.

"My kid's fat because of McDonalds" or "My kid does drugs because of the school"...it's an epidemic of parents coming out after the fact and finding someone else to pin their kids' failures on, rather than being proactive and being a constant part of the childrens' lives and a positive role model to assist in their development.

So, the children grow up learning that you don't have to be personally responsible for anything in life, since there are no repercussions for their actions...as long as they can find someone else to blame it on. With no sense of responsibility, the children grow up with no discipline and no real sense of what's right or wrong. Nothing's their fault, so why should they feel remorse or regret for anything that they do?

Answer 3

Well, darlin', I'm from the "ol' school". The thing is that the states and the federal government are placing restrictions on how we are to discipline children. While I'm against child abuse of any kind, parents as a whole have lost control of their children. As for me and my house, I will spank that *** when my kids get out of line. I remind my children that I love them, will take care of them, but I'll be damned if I'm going to allow them to disrespect me or any other adult. There's discipline missing in today's households as well as positive role models. Strong men and women(regardless of race, creed, color, or sexual orientation) that weren't afraid to mix love and discipline at the same time. Spanking may hurt a little bit, but seeing your child locked up for 25 years to life or having to bury them at a young age hurts much worse. Do not, I repeat, do not be a child's friend..be their parent!

Answer 4

When you try to discipline your children in public people get nosy and call the police. I love my kids but I think they need discipline. No one needs to hurt kids or beat them. But I got whippings when I was a kid and I turned out just fine. As for crime , drugs and etc. Some parents are not as involved with their children's life as they should be.

Answer 5

cause if you think about it the children today have no disapline compared to when are parent were little back then things were very stricked in every day life and now a days things are hard but not as hard as people think

maybe be with that they let them get away with alot more things then we do

Answer 6

Some interesting reading...
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/266umtwb.asp

Answer 7

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