How can my son get out of the Marines? Only in 6 months, so far still training. Hazing result 3 fractured ribs

Answer 1

Homosexuality, Drug Use, Mental Instability are all grounds for discharge. If he talked to his officers he could probly get reassigned if it is certain individuals causing him trouble.

Answer 2

In peace time he might stand a chance at the 'gay' option, but the way things are right now I wouldn't bet on that strategy being very effective. The rule of thumb is that the more $ invested in a military member's training the more active they'll be in pursuing a soldier/marine/sailor/airman who's, let's say, not where they're supposed to be when they're supposed to be there. So, if your son has only been in 6 months, the Dept of Def hasn't really spent very much yet (as opposed to a pilot, for instance), so if he were to bail out now it won't be as much of a loss as it would be if he were to do so in a year. Since he's training, the police etc in that vicinity are well-honed in spotting recruits who've had a change of heart, so the real trick is just getting the hell out of dodge without getting busted (which, incidently, he would pay hell for were that to happen b/c he'd be made an example of). Once out of the 'military town' area, nobody knows who he is and for the most part nobody cares; he'll just be some kid w/ a buzzcut. 9 out of 10 times when a newbie goes AWOL, they get caught b/c they piddle around in the area. Once they clear that hurdle, sure there's the chance some goon may come around the hometown for a looksee, maybe question mom & pop, but those are big maybes. The folks that I knew who got busted after the 'hell out of dodge' part, got GOT b/c they popped up in the police database when pulled over for speeding etc. It's not really all that hard to just get away, to be honest, but being AWOL or a deserter is something that can be bad news in his future, but then again if he bails and secures legal protection for being illegally hazed (it IS illegal, be it done by a DI or fellow recruits/marines) and unprotected by those in charge...well, that may be another story.

Answer 3

why does he have 3 fractured ribs? Was he physically beat by drill instructors? Or did he get them from an accident and is blaming the marine corps so he'll get kicked out? I knew alot of guys who went through Marine Corps boot camp and none of them had fractured or broken anything. Boot camp is only 3 months long so if he's still in after 6 months, he's probably in the medical platoon, forgot what they are called. If this is the case, they might just be waiting for his ribs to heal before sending him home, so there's no legal responsibility on the Marine Corps. Drill instructors are not supposed to beat the recruits. You should contact his Commanding Officer and bring this to his attention. If it's because of a "runaway" D.I., the D.I. will be reprimanded and possibly kicked out, pending the outcome of possible court martial. Call your son's recruiter and ask his/her advice. If the Marine Corps will not help him, call/write the govnernor/congressman of your state

Answer 4

I spent 6 years in the Marines, hazing is a part of building camaraderie. I know that most people think that hazing is not right and does not serve a reasonable purpose. But when when your son is in a fighting hole dealing with the fog of war, things like hazing may save his life! Agree or disagree, you can't even begin to understand my point until you become a Marine!

Answer 5

If he's been in for a full six months, that means he can actually be kicked out (meaning that he can be subject to a dishonorable discharge). Whoever is hazing him is violating regulations. If a DI has physically stuck him, or in any other way hazed him, your son needs to inform his chain of command. If the chain of command doesn't help, then he needs to contact his congressmen. By law, congressmen have to address every issue that is brought to their attention. Your son has an opportunity to right a wrong and help ensure that it doesn't happen again. I know this all sounds intimidating, but no one can reprimand you for informing your superiors (to include Congress)of a violation of regulation.

He needs to approach this via the correct avenue, because a false step can spell a whole bunch of bad stuff for him in the future.

Answer 6

Marines are encouraged to go to the F.B.I. for such abuse and your son knows that. No matter how high the rank of the person who did this to him, if proven guilty upon further investigation, will more than likely recieve a dishonorable discharge. There have been a lot of reforms in the Marines over the past several years due to investigations from the F.B.I. so it's suprising that this even happened. But YOU can't really get your son out of the Marines. Be proud that he hasn't ran away and that he's sticking with it.

Answer 7

DO NOT TELL HIM TO USE SEXUAL ORIENTATION!

DO NOT HAVE HIM FAKE ANY ILLNESS PHYSICAL OR MENTAL!

You have a responsibility to report this abuse to your elected official. The abuse will stop. Next his chain of command will make the appropriate decision as to his reassignment or discharge. He should be training for his job now, we call it Tech School in the Air Force. Remember that for every incident he has told you about there are probably many more he hasen't. This abuse often leads to far worse and can ultimately lead to suicidal thoughts.

He should try to finish out his commitment if at all possible. However, the final decision rests with the Corp. But they will be heavily influenced if a Congressional inquiry is initiated. Find out who your Representative is and start there. I work for an Air Force Inspector General's office and have dealt with the repercussions of faking sexual orientation and illness and it severely complicates matters and never is a solution.

Answer 8

Don't go for drug use because his discharge may not be honorable (may or may not, depending on "thier" mood) and also not a mental discharge because the will write down on his dd2-14 (discharge paper) "other physical or mental" an this is just not nice to carry with you, also, they may put him on suicide watch depending on their mood (this might make the hazing worse because his fellow platoon members may have to watch him all night, and no one wants to stay up all night watching someone else sleep.
Here is my advise: Talk to the GI Rights Hot line, they can help a lot. They can even file a grievance or complaint! The objector.org website also has a section on discharges so your son can get out, since he's not graduated from BTC, he can get out of "failure to adjust" through his entry level status. there are also other discharges in this site to read about.
P.S: It would also be wise for him to first go through his chain of command in reporting this, more hazing can come about if he directly goes to someone else in the government. Also, if he decides to use any of what is on the website, he should act like it was him who researched this, and not his family sicne it would be very very bad if his family got involved (they don't like it when family, specially parents get involved) it is he who should fight.
I don't believe that someone should just suck it up and stay somewhere where they don't belong. A good soulder is a willing soldier! Don't believe what people say that "he should be a man" and stay there, he doesn't owe them anything!

Answer 9

Speaking from experience (army) the worst thing you can do to your son is get involved. They gave me a chapter 2 medical discharge (like an annulment, it NEVER happened) But it took 6 weeks to process me out. My husband knew that I had been in the hospital 3 times in 2 weeks. He started calling to check on my. They used the hippa law & told me not to tell him anything. So I told him everything. He called & they hung up on him. So, he finally contacted the Congressman & she contacted the base. However, with every call I was treated worse & worse, I wasn't allowed to leave the barracks except to eat & somehow I never got to finish a meal, they took phone priveleges, etc. So DO NOT attempt to help him! You will make his a target & his life Hell!

Answer 10

Maybe he can use this experience to decide to protect others from hazing as my husband has done. Report the hazing, it is illegal in the core. Self respecting marines don't haze.

Answer 11

If he really wants out, he can find a way. There are many ways already listed. The best way though, is for him to become a man and serve out the remainder of his enlistment. He chose to dedicate his life for 4 years or so, and he needs to live up to that. If he isn't being treated correctly, he needs to use his chain of command correctly to get his problem resolved. Its like wanting a divorce after the first argument, he needs to stick with it.