CHRISTIANS: what do you guys think about the bible quote where JESUS condones murder? luke 19:27?

Question

luke 19:27

"But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me."

this is from the NEW testament. and this is what JESUS supposedly said.

christians often defend the bible. but if it says stuff like this, then why should we?

also,,, if you're gonna use the excuse that it's just a metaphor, then please elaborate as to what exactly it is a metaphor to. because to me it seems pretty literal.

yap, you guys are right. well, some of you are anyway. jesus isn't actually saying it. well,, he is,, but they're not his words. he's quoting someone else.

Answer 1

It's not a metaphor, and yes Jesus said it.
But.....He was talking about another person and what that person said. He was not saying this but actually quoting another person. You have to go back and read the whole chapter, not just one verse.

Answer 2

What you quote is part of a parable or story. The previous sentence before the story begins says the people thought the reign of God (i.e. end of the world) was near. Then Jesus tells the parable about a King and his Judgments.

The story is about a nobleman whom some people don't want to be King but he becomes King anyway. This King gives his servants some money for them to use in trade. The first two use their gift wisely and increase their money. The third just keeps it hidden away. The King condemns this man and makes him give his money to the first servant who used his gift the best. Then the King in the story condemns his enemies (the ones who didn't want him to be crowned King) as you quote.

This is similar to Luke 8: 16-18 about not hiding a light under a basin and that he who has will get more. Matthew 25: 14-30 tells a similar parable.

These parables do not condone killing or physical harm. They are meant as lessons about man and the kingdom of God and how you prepare for meeting God. When God (the King) gives you a present or talent, you should use it and not sit idly by. If you use your talents - the gifts God gives you and means for you to use - you will get rewarded but if you do not, you get nothing. (In Matthew's version the servant who does nothing is cast into darkness). Those who oppose the will of God (the enemies of the nobleman in the story who don't want him as their King) and seek His downfall will be punished. The King (God) will condemn his enemies to death (spiritual death since we're really talking about the Kingdom of God, not of man).

It is not meant to be taken literally. It means that unless you are righteous and do the will of God (the King) you will be cast out. There are many passages in the New Testament where Jesus warns that those who do not do what God wants will be cast into the eternal fire.

This parable is a variation on that theme. You should read the whole story and look at similar ones.

Note: the King (God) is the only one with the power over life and death -- not mere ordinary men. We ordinary people are the servants. We are not entitled to punish anybody. Only the King (God) can punish anyone.

Answer 3

Well, it is a metaphor in the sense that the quote you are referencing is not Jesus saying something directly. If you were to read back a few verses, you will see that that verse is the last sentence in a parable that Jesus was telling. Thus, the quote is the words of the king in Jesus' story/ parable, not Jesus Himself.

For example, if I were to say, "Hitler said, 'The Jews should all be killed.'", does that mean I believe that all the Jews should be killed? Of course not! I was merely relaying information about what someone else has said. Telling a story about a person does not mean you condone that person's behavior. Now, the parable and the passages around it say nothing of Jesus condoning the acts of the king in his parable (and Jesus tends to be anti-murder in the rest of his teachings). However, for the king to act in such a way gives an example of how those who hide their gifts will be judged. The last line of story is not the focus of the parable.

Therefore, while you are correct that Jesus said that (as I am sure it is in the red letters), it is in the context of the story He was telling, not a statement.

Answer 4

You are talking about the "Parable of the Sums of Money." The quote you use is the king in the parable talking. People should not take things from the Bible , or any other literary work, out of the context in which they were written. Jesus was a man of peace. Jesus' God the Father is a loving forgivng father, quite diferent from the vengeful Yaweh of the Old Testament. If you don't agree with Jesus' teachings, or Christianity( Cristianity was invented after Jesus' time and not completely based on Jesus), or if you have a problem with religion in general that's fine. Don't be so belligerent. Be happy. God loves you!

Answer 5

Hello, that is from a parable, a story used to teach a lesson. Sort of like "Goldilocks and the Three Bears." Christ was not speaking as if this is what we should do. He was telling a story with a moral. Read the entire parable not just a few lines. It is from "The Parable of the Ten Pounds:" Luke 19:11-27 and it teaches about the fact that if you don't wisely use the talents God has given you you are still accountable for the use or misuse of those talents."

Answer 6

This parable starts at Luke 19:11: "While they were listening to this, he went on to tell them a P A R A B L E, because he was near Jerusalem and the people thought that the kingdom of God was going to appear at once." Please do not take any literature out of context. I could give you a line from the movie "Gone With the Wind" that would make you think the South won the Civil War!

Answer 7

The Bible can sound like it's saying something terrible when it's taken out of context. In verse 11 it says that this is a parable (which is a metaphor). My take on the meaning of the parable is only saying that you're following God without actually following through in your actions is hypocritical. We should use the time we've been given to do what God wants us to do. One of the servants in the parable just sits around. I think the point of this verse is that Jesus didn't come to save hypocritical people who aren't really accepting him and believing him and living for him. We'll all deal with sin one way or another...it seems the wiser choice is to let Jesus take care of it for us. In John 3:17 it essentially says that Jesus didn't come to send us all to hell, he came to save us from it.

Answer 8

Actually it was not Jesus who said this. Jesus was recounting a story of an austere nobleman who was quite unkind to his servants. It is a type of story called a parable. A parable is a story which is meant to teach something subtly not literally. It was the unkind nobleman in the story who was saying this to his servants not Jesus. Therefore, Jesus was not condoning murder but was instead telling a story about someone who did. By the way, I am not a Christian but I am a scholar of the Bible.

Answer 9

If you take the Bible literal in small pieces like that you'll add confusion to your confusion. The Bible also says (I think in Proverbs) ....."there is no God". Read the first part of that verse: "The fool has said in his heart there is no God". The spiritual book must be understood with a spiritual mind. To the scorner looking on, Biblical principles are foolishness. The Holy-Spirit led searching heart will understand what the Bible is telling him. By the way........check the version or interpretation of your Bible. The King James version has helped my spiritual life by far more than these modern language versions.

Answer 10

actually that verse is taken out of context. if you will read Luke 19:11-27 you will see that Jesus was telling a parable about a King and his ten servants. you should read the entire passage instead of picking and choosing.