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http://www.godisimaginary.com/i7.htm

I just read this whole thing. I find it very amusing and interesting, and I think I would like to discuss it. Dont comment here unless you read the whole thing. Be seeing you people.

Yea, this specific section that i linked is very interesting to think about. Again, dont post unless you read the whole thing. Thank you.

Please dont put nonsense comments. This is only for those who read the link I posted. Most of these comments have NOTHING to do with the link I put.

why does 85% of the world believe in a God or some other deity or higher power

Most likely because 85% of the world wants something to believe in.

Sir. N,

I believe very much in what you have stated. I myself try to be extremely open minded to what anyone tells me. I have always been this way. I try not to restrict my thoughts to what others think, or want me to think, but in fact to look at all the posibilities, and scenarios, from my own, and other's points of view. I believe that by doing this, one will come to understand things better, and eventualy understand himself or herself better in the process.

Answer 1

You would probably be interested in reading "Prometheus Rising," by Robert Anton Wilson (available on Amazon...). Among the many lessons in the book is this one:
"What the Thinker thinks, the Prover proves." (...both the Thinker and the Prover are aspects of your mind)

People have a built-in tendency to interpret their experiences within the context of their existing belief system, or mental map. What doesn't fit the map is usually ignored or denied. Very few people are even aware that they do this, but everyone does.

Becoming aware of this tendency makes you realize that everything is essentially an interpretation, and what you consider to be "reality" is merely the consensus of you and the people you know. This makes the world a little less "black and white," and is the first step toward enlightenment.

Congratulations! Your intellectual curiosity will set you free.

Answer 2

Interesting viewpoint. But what if all the stories are true, minus Santa Claus of course. I am a Christian, more spiritual probably. I'm not a bible beater and I respect and believe things I hear in other religions as well. I don't think that one religion is better than the next. They all lead to a higher power or powers, sometimes the same higher powers. I think the question is really those who believe and those who don't, not what this article was trying to do by comparing other religious beliefs to Christianity and then knocking Christianity. The question I ask is why does 85% of the world believe in a God or some other deity or higher power?

Answer 3

I am agnostic my self. What rational person wants to blink out of existence when they die, sure I hope there is a God, do I believe it, no. The way that I see it is when I die I do not think there is anything that I could have done, in 80 or 90 years of my life to warrant being sent to hell for eternity, if I am to be punished by God for not believing he exist by being sent to hell for all eternity then that is not the God that I want to spend all of eternity with anyway, sounds like a tyrant to me. If there is no God and I blink out of existence then I won't care, because I will know longer exist, meaning no thought no pain, nothing. Logic is perspective my man, Christians, Muslims and Mormons are all being logical, based off of the fact that they believe in their faith, it is only logical to assume that they will find ways to look at things from their own perspective. The human mind is a powerful thing, did you know that there was a Buddhist Monk that was able to kill him self just with thought through meditation, tell me that's not incredible. Think about this, nothing can't be nothing, because nothing is the absence of something. So just by that definition, nothing becomes something. Anything that can be defined is something. See how logic can be used in any case, even for those who are irrational. Logic is simply a tool to get ones point across. The problem with religious people is that the facts that they use can not be proved or disproved, so it becomes a sort of circular logic, that comes right back to the point that it started.

Answer 4

Yeah, that's pretty awsome. A very well-done site. You should also check out www.fuckthesouth.com.
Unfortunately, this site will do no good. It can only preach to the converted, so to speak. Rational people think, "Oh, if only those brainwashed fools out there could read this, they'll see."
But the sad thing is, all those brain-washed idiots out there will say (and they write this to me all the time on this very site) they'll say, "Read the book of John and you'll see!" Or "The proof is right there in the bible!"
There's no getting across the gulf that divides us. You could trap me in a cage for 1000 years with a bible, and I could never believe it, just as you could force some believer to read this website a million times, and they'd still be immune to logic. That's just the way of the world! (Which sucks)

Answer 5

This is the same old stuff...there is NO way to prove a negative, period. And, there is no way to prove God exists...neither/nor. God is a matter of faith, and that is why we call it faith...it must be taken without proof or evidence of any kind. A site like the one you have linked to is a colossal waste of someone's time. This site will make NO ONE become an atheist or a believer...just doesn't happen. All the arguments going on here are no more than exercises in wasting time. People either believe or they don't . That is a personal choice between them and their selves. Good luck

Answer 6

Read it before..you're not the first one to stumble upon it. Yeah..it is an interesting spin on the whole athiestic perspective. Yet again though its just a slant on the same old rhetoric..just compiled all in one place..such as comparing God to Santa Claus. So disbelieve then as you do..continue in it. That's fine..but how do you answer questions that arise in life like who you are and why you here. What is your fate beyond death if there is any? As well there are certain scientific anomolies that, I'm sorry, Pal...just cannot be attributed to evolution. For instance...this isn't something they teach in biology class..nothing ever too deep..but here we go.Have you ever studied the human eye...any eye really..but we'll pick just this one. How could such a complex and intricate optical system have developed through mutation alone..and at what point during its "evolvment" did it suddenly become useful? When a baby is concieved in its mothers womb, the genetic DNA code governing the eye programs the baby's body to begin growing optic nerve simultaeioulsy from both the optic center of the brain and from the eye. A million microscopic optic nerves begin to from growing in two different directions, from the eye and and toward the optic center of the baby's brain and as well a sheath, simular to fiber "optic" cable grow through the flesh toward the baby's eye. Each of these one million nerves must find and match up with its counterpart precisely in order to have functional vision much less perfect vision. Anyone who believes this irreducibly complex system of development...let alone the whole eye design itself and the whole optic center that recieves sight..was created by chance and random mutations is nuts and should believe in Santa Claus. Cuz ya know...Elves are people too and maybe they evolved to live longer, in colder climates and to train raindeer to fly. According to evolutionary theory...the miracle of sight as is given in almost every single child that is ever born..with so little a margin for error except and in where a human teratogin is introduced to mess up this development. There's only two ways we could be here...we were designed and created...or we evolved over billions of years from gillatinous muck with no evidence to prove this theory at all..Irreducible complexity is the answer, my friend. Watch Animal Planet or The Discovery Channel once in a while...love in Christ, ~J~ <><

Answer 7

That is a very intresting site and I will probably end up reading a lot of the "proofs". The most imortant thing to remember is that my faith is exactly that - faith. If you want to put your faith and your enternity in Santa or in nothing, ok.

I know Jesus is real and alive, because I know. That doesn't make sense to you, but it does to others who place their faith in him. Nothing that I can say will convince you until you feel His strength for yourself.

I am not rich. I have been to funerals of both family and friends. I have been sick and in the hospital for surgeries and illness. Nowhere does God promise you have immunity from all human frailties.

I have seen my life and lives around me change, because of a belief in Christ. I wish I could explain it to you but I can't, because until you listen with a willing heart you will never hear.

Can you explain love, trust, hope, sanity, insanity? Can you expalin to a person blind frm birth the color of a red rose? Can you explain to a person deaf from birth the sound of a summer's night in the country?

Everyone lives by faith. It might be faith in the electricty that keeps the computer running. It might be faith in something you can see, feel, touch, and taste, but its faith.

If you truly want to know find a quite place, cry out to God with your heart not your brain, and then listen for His still small voice with your soul.

And I say unto you, ask and it shall be given you; seek and you shall find, knock and it will be opened unto you. (Luke 11:9)

Answer 8

I've already read this one, and yes, I found it very amusing. I am an atheist, and when others ask me to explain my beliefs, I explain how everyone is an atheist in regards to the ancient Greek's Gods, and I am simply an atheist in regards to the Christian, Muslim, Jewish, and all other current "Gods". All the same, that link should convince a few theists to question their questionable (Ha!) beliefs.

Answer 9

i imagine you've incorrectly generalized each and every thing on your argument. i imagine there are absolutely a huge style of atheists who've suffered an same "existence trauma" you've pinned on the Christians. i imagine that is actual a strong argument for Christianity that it would want to carry people above such addictions and oppressions and free them from that. you're absolutely entitled on your opinion, even if it style of feels you truly understand little or no about different peoples' existence situation of what has led them to Christ or what they sense interior even as they could finally upward thrust above their situation and see that the international does not revolve round them and their themes. i have been a Christian for truly a even as and would extremely say my tale isn't something like what you've ascribed to the full Christian inhabitants, nor do I hit upon that the final public of the atheist inhabitants have the peace of concepts and their total existence smartly pulled mutually like you describe. all of us have struggles.

Answer 10

I read it, it´s a real fairy tale. I´d Rather believe the witness of Mathew,Luke,Mark and John, these are more convincing. No one has changed the course of history more than Jesus of Nazareth. The Bible story has survived for thousands of years in spite of all the vicious attacks against it. Jesus can really satisfy our spiritual thirst to be in touch with God. I´m very happy with Jesus, ;God bless you!!! See you at judgement day!