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if some1 will say bible is enough.. well its for them only since they don't care about education. And i know for sure that there are historical evidence of Jesus existence except bible.
Just wander how many CHristians do know or read othere references.

2006-07-07 08:58:50 · 16 answers · asked by PicassoInActions 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

ok to slightly revise my Q. WHich historian of Jesus time wrote about Jesus?
Peace

2006-07-07 09:05:25 · update #1

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I 'm assuming that you mean historical references to Jesus or texts outside of the bible that say anything about Jesus during his "life"... There aren't any- even the bible was written 70+ years after Jesus was supposed to be living.

There seems to be a misconception that 2000 years ago people didn't have their s**t together. That's not the case. Plenty of reliable historians lived during the time Jesus should have been alive and no one wrote a word about him. If he caused such a fuss, someone would have written something.

*If anyone tries to site Josephus as a reliable source, they are wrong. It's common knowledge that his accounts were obviously forged by scribes trying to give historical life to Jesus.

2006-07-07 10:04:23 · answer #1 · answered by Nizz 2 · 0 2

I have seen documentaries on people around the world that suffer from wounds, markings and illness of those suffered from Crucifixion. No one was able to explain why the affect existed or why they were fresh; bleeding, yet never went away and never got infected.

But that's not enough, I know. The most that can be said of any of this is that you can feel it. You know it's there, what ever it is. Accept it and call it what you may, however, accept it.

As to what ways to believe in, you have to perform your own search. The reason why it's said you can't believe everything in the Bible is because of miss-perception and deceit. Base yourself on your own experiences and the things that match such as the Bible.

2006-07-07 16:16:47 · answer #2 · answered by kasar777 3 · 0 0

There are other documents found during that time period that record his existence. The Dead Sea Scrolls being one of them. The Bible is also more of a compilation of many different writers, each in different times, places, etc. So the Bible also stands as multiple sources and records of his existence.

Other documents:

"Antiquities of the Jews" by Jewish historian Flavius Josephus

"The Annals of Imperial Rome, XV, 44" - Cornelius Tacitus, a Roman historian, senator, consul and governor of the province of Asia

He is also mentioned in the Talmud - "As written in The Jewish Encyclopedia (1907 edition)"

His crucifixion was also documented in many government records at the time. I think his name also appears in tax records, birth records and census records.

Also note that some of the records that prove Christ's life were written by people that didn't like him, which just strengthens the proof of his life.

Most of these documents are written by people that actually lived during his life, and knew of him. Not just of people writting about him later in time.

I hope this answer helps.

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ok to slightly revise my Q. WHich historian of Jesus time wrote about Jesus?
Peace"

I think Cornelius Tacitus and Flavius Josephus were in the same time period. Flavius Josephus being the closest...

2006-07-07 16:14:21 · answer #3 · answered by evan e 1 · 0 0

A Roman historian by the name Josephus was a very well known historian of Jesus' time that recorded things about Jesus. There were other Romans, plus Jewish history and Islamic history.

2006-07-07 16:10:32 · answer #4 · answered by darvinwallis 2 · 0 0

There's always the Book of Mormon for those with open minds and actually read it. A record from the Americas. Has alot about Jesus and his teachings. The website below has all the scriptures (including the bible) in pdf / mobile / html and audio.

2006-07-07 16:06:18 · answer #5 · answered by James A 1 · 0 0

Let's begin our inquiry with a passage that historian Edwin Yamauchi calls "probably the most important reference to Jesus outside the New Testament."{4} Reporting on Emperor Nero's decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed Rome in A.D. 64, the Roman historian Tacitus wrote:
Nero fastened the guilt . . . on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of . . . Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome. . . .{5}

Another important source of evidence about Jesus and early Christianity can be found in the letters of Pliny the Younger to Emperor Trajan. Pliny was the Roman governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor. In one of his letters, dated around A.D. 112, he asks Trajan's advice about the appropriate way to conduct legal proceedings against those accused of being Christians.{8} Pliny says that he needed to consult the emperor about this issue because a great multitude of every age, class, and sex stood accused of Christianity.{9}
At one point in his letter, Pliny relates some of the information he has learned about these Christians:
They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food--but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.{10}

There are only a few clear references to Jesus in the Babylonian Talmud, a collection of Jewish rabbinical writings compiled between approximately A.D. 70-500. Given this time frame, it is naturally supposed that earlier references to Jesus are more likely to be historically reliable than later ones. In the case of the Talmud, the earliest period of compilation occurred between A.D. 70-200.{20} The most significant reference to Jesus from this period states:
On the eve of the Passover Yeshu was hanged. For forty days before the execution took place, a herald . . . cried, "He is going forth to be stoned because he has practiced sorcery and enticed Israel to apostasy."{21}
Let's examine this passage. You may have noticed that it refers to someone named "Yeshu." So why do we think this is Jesus? Actually, "Yeshu" (or "Yeshua") is how Jesus' name is pronounced in Hebrew. But what does the passage mean by saying that Jesus "was hanged"? Doesn't the New Testament say he was crucified? Indeed it does. But the term "hanged" can function as a synonym for "crucified." For instance, Galatians 3:13 declares that Christ was "hanged", and Luke 23:39 applies this term to the criminals who were crucified with Jesus.{22} So the Talmud declares that Jesus was crucified on the eve of Passover. But what of the cry of the herald that Jesus was to be stoned? This may simply indicate what the Jewish leaders were planning to do.{23} If so, Roman involvement changed their plans!{24}
The Probe

2006-07-07 16:09:34 · answer #6 · answered by jaimestar64cross 6 · 0 0

The Holy Quran
The Gospel according to Barnabas.

2006-07-07 16:03:30 · answer #7 · answered by zaki1968 4 · 0 0

keep in mind the bible isn't just one book. it is a collection of works. and in the new testament, they collected things people wrote about jesus. and other writings were also considered for inclusion in the bible as well. its not like the bible is this one single source.

2006-07-07 16:02:41 · answer #8 · answered by cbp 3 · 0 0

http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/naij3.html

Check this out, it is a research site has some interesting information. Historical facts not from the Bible.

Jesus was a real man, did live and die just as the Bible said.
Take from it what you will, believe what you want. However He did live and die just as it is written.

2006-07-07 16:06:16 · answer #9 · answered by Dead Man Walking 4 · 0 0

check out a book called "The Case for Christ". you can find it in any bookstore. the thing is chalk full of references of Christ other than the Bible. An atheist wrote the book even, it is pretty remarkable.

2006-07-07 16:02:53 · answer #10 · answered by coltonwthomas 1 · 0 0

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