When our troops come home on leave, why are they treated like 2nd hand citizens (details)?

Question

Military people cannot cash their paycheck at Hy-Vee with their Military ID card. They must use a state drivers lisence (or ID). Most are under 21, so they can't even return a toast to their success. What's wrong with this picture? It's like saying, "go get your head chopped off, we don't care."

Answer 1

Sadly, the same individuals that make our laws, treat our vets like crap. Do you think Bush would allow his daughters to fight in the war. No. Not being able to cashtheir checks is only a small sample of how badly our vets are treated.

Answer 2

First I want to start off by saying rudi is a dumb *****. Now to your question, I am a service member and I have never had any problems when I came home on leave from Iraq, treated very well. If you are under 21 you can't buy alcohol that is a fact and people under 21 in the military know that they can't buy alcohol. All pay from the military is direct deposit, there is a few instances where the service member will still get a check but it's very rare, and the simple fact most businesses only deal with drivers license showing a drivers license has never been a problem with me. With all this said, there are some soldiers that are treated very bad not very many but still a few, as for myself I look as if I can handle myself good and I can throw down with the best of them so that is probably why I haven't been messed with.

Answer 3

If the store will not accept a valid Military ID then I would Boycott that store and no longer shop there.
I believe it is because most of those people who make the rules still are living in a mind set of the "Vietnam War"
Most of these people never served their country in the armed forces.
Most Rarely Vote.
Most don't understand the cost the military pays for defending our freedoms that have already been paid for in blood of those who gave all in defense of what most of the people today take for granted.
I used to work as a doorman at a club(Bar) and i always allowed those with a valid military ID to enter as long as they respected the service the were in, the rules of the club, and themselves.
I, violating the law of many states, let them drink, but i always let them know that if they get in trouble within the place i worked, they would also be in trouble with their commanding officers, being prior military I would call their CO's and inform them of the behavior of their subordinates.
This I have found is a worse punishment then just calling the police on them.

Answer 4

Why would they cash need to cash their checks with their military ID's and the legal drinking age is 21 or was the last time I checked. It does not mean that people are treating them as second class citizens.

What you are telling me is minor compaired to the horror our troups came home to after Viet Nam.. those boys were spit on and called baby killers.

I understand your frustration but the things you are saying (cashing paychecks/drinking) are very minor things. It goes without saying that we as Americans appreciate all that our soliders do for us, defending our way of life.

Toast your success with another beverage, after all it is a celebration. I do not think that what you have described is treating them like second class citizens.

Answer 5

It is so very sad that so many people don't appreciate what our troops are doing for us and what they go through to keep our country free and safe! I can understand someone not supporting the war (any war) but
the troops should still be respected and supported.

My son in law was in Iraq and he returned from a year in Afghanistan in May. They got a 10 day leave in Dec. and they were held over in Germany for two days waiting for an American plane to bring them on to the states. They slept in a tent for two nights with no blankets and no sheets in the winter!

Answer 6

Invalid premise.

These are laws that pertain to everyone, not only troops, and I don't see how expecting people to obey the same laws as everyone else (drinking age, for example) is treating anyone like a "second-class citizen", or akin in any way to telling them that we don't care if they get their "heads chopped off".

When I see a serviceman, I'll buy him a drink. If he's too young to drink, I'll buy him a meal (can't be too young to eat). If he's with his parents I'll shake their hands too. But he still has to use a driver's license and obey the drinking age like the rest of us. That's how it was when I was a soldier, and it's how it is today - there's nothing wrong with it.

Answer 7

First of all-what is Hy-Vee?

Secondly, we're treating them like 2nd hand citizens because they have to obey the laws and not drink themselves into a stupor?

Thirdly, how is that even remotely saying "go get your head chopped off, we don't care"?

Answer 8

Their paycheck is directly deposited, so there is no reason to use it to cash their check. I agree though, the troops should be able to drink alcohol at 18, and should get treated with respect wherever they go, unless they are acting like jackasses. Rubi, rapping is what gangsters do, learn to spell.

Answer 9

The military does not pay with paychecks anymore. Everything is direct deposit.

Sounds like something is wrong with your story.

Answer 10

times were harder during the vietnam war. troops were stoned and spit upon. many did not want to wear their uniform, for fear of being branded a warmonger. many were underage for drinking, as the draft captured those just out of high school, but they could drink on military bases and purchase liquor there. many of those about to be drafted escaped military service through marriage, self-deportation, religious assertation, purposely failing their physical exam, college enrollement, enacting mental instability, holding a criminal record, and lucking out on the lottery established in the later years of the war.