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I have many gay friends, and I'm not aware of one of them ever doing this. Yet if you were to believe everything you read on Y!A, gays are engaged in a crusade to make the whole world homosexual. Have I missed anything? Can someone give me a practical example of this behaviour?

2006-07-06 23:48:03 · 23 answers · asked by XYZ 7 in Society & Culture Cultures & Groups Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender

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you have missed alot of the news and many of the laws they are trying to push through the legislative branches....how about it being a "hate crime" to not like that life style ?? It being taught in public schools...even if a parent says no to it....N.A.M.B.L.A. & the A.C.L.U. trying to lower the age of consent for sex... Gay Pride parades,same sex marriages forced into the churches,they are many things that the gay community is doing to force their life styles onto the people who are straight & don't believe it's right to have sex with someone of the same sex...
Why don't you do some research online about it....afraid to see it's happening....just because your circle of friends aren't beating their way to the Senate steps,doesn't mean it isn't being done...
In Canada,if a preacher dares to mention that God says homosexuality is a sin....they can be thrown in jail..thanks to the gay community there pushing it as a "hate crime"....the USA isn't far behind them.

2006-07-07 00:01:45 · answer #1 · answered by justnanous 4 · 2 1

MOST of the issues being fought for have nothing to do with changing anything about anyone else's lives but our own. There are good reasons for many of the other issues, but I could see how it could come off as "pushy". If people believe (as most who oppose gay rights claim) that gay people are ok, but not what htey do (hate the sin and all that), then something like teaching about gay people in a school (or even being honest about what W.H. Auden was writing about, or being ALLOWED to use W.H. Auden as an example of a great American poet) DOES force the issue to come up. It's a matter of visibility at worst. They want to pretend we don't exist, and that's not cool with us, and it's not fair to the children of gay parents, or even the nephews / cousins of gay people. But that IS a part where it changes the lives of straight people in that they will need to talk to their kids about what they believe about that issue.

2006-07-07 18:03:46 · answer #2 · answered by Atropis 5 · 0 0

UGGGGGGGGGGHHHH...

They don't push it. The truth is that gays today do not have the same, equal rights as the rest of us. Is there anything wrong with them making a fuss about it? No. It's a civil thing, man.

Besides, stop complaining. I'm a wine/fashion guru because of two of my best friends, two cousins, and an uncle that lives in Manchester, UK. I'm not complaining.

The only thing they've pusehd on me is how to party and have a good time. Lighten up.

2006-07-07 08:31:45 · answer #3 · answered by ? 2 · 0 0

There is an extreme difference between being open with your lifestyle and pushing your agenda down someones throat. People who want to limit others freedoms to choose for themselves are pushing. Just because a person wants to be able to hold hands, or share medical, financial, and buy a home together without the extra paper work isn't pushing.

2006-07-07 11:30:06 · answer #4 · answered by Swordfish 6 · 0 0

Nice answers so far :)

"if a priest discrimates gay people he can go to jail...that's the fault of gay people" ....i'm still laughing :)

To answer your question, i think it's in the marketing and PR. Oppressed groups tend to have emotional outbursts when they finally reach a normal standard of freedom.

Here in Romania, after the period of the dictator Ceaucescu ended, people were wild for a while, which makes sense.
When the womens rights groups started, they started claiming more rights than equality, which makes sense.
If we put people behind for a while, they will start to run to catch up on us, and beat us to the finish line. That's only human.

Womens rights are almost done, even if we have a road ahead of us on that subject. Positive discrimination works in Holland, but it also makes some people angry.

Equal rights are a subject that every normal human being understand. Everybody with a sane mind gets it, and lives by it. Problem with, for example, womens rights are with the extreme macho guys with no brain (am generalizing a fake group now, just to make a point). These guys are used to using women, they want their beer to be ready when they come home from work, their food cooked, and their feet rubbed. And the wife has to be quiet, because the man has to see soccer.

These are the guys that will, in the end, make the difference whether or not womens rights will completely be accepted. Womens rights groups also use the wrong spokespersons for that. They already convinced every normal sane person. But normal, sane arguments will never reach the ignorant demagogic groups of men. Get Pamela Anderson as the spokesperson for womens rights, and the "stupid macho men" will be convinced in a few hours.

With gay people it works the same. I marched in a few parades with them, but i can also see that it does more harm than good. Again,the sane people already know they should have equal rights. The bigoted homophobes get even more offended in seeing the outburst of freedom in the gay parades. Transvestites with all sorts of colorfull dresses. I can see why they wanna do it like this, i would do it too. I would celebrate my new found freedom with showing as much freedom as possible. It's completely human.

Yet, when the gay rights groups really wanna convince the bigoted homophobes, they should change their tactics. First, stop naming it gay rights, name it equal human rights. Secondly, a gay parade with guys in three-piece suits and lesbians dressed as bussiness woman (i am exagerating now a bit) would do much more good to convince the bigoted homophobes. I think the homophobes need to see what you and i clearly always have seen, that all people are basicly normal. Homophobes need to have that shown in their faces. Most of the homophobes obviously don't meet many gay people in their day to day life, and all they know about homosexuality are the outbursts of freedom that they see on TV. In some weird way, i can even understand the fear it gives them.

I know it's impossible, i even know it's unfair, but i truly believe if homosexuals could bring themselves to show only their human side in a gay parade, and not their "gay-side" (horrible discriminative word, sorry), they would do much more good in getting accepted by the homophobes.
If they could also bring themselves to stop naming it gay parade, but naming it equal human rights parade, it would help.

There obviously are no gay rights, as there are no straight rights. We should focus more on equal human rights for everybody.

2006-07-07 08:39:17 · answer #5 · answered by Thinx 5 · 0 0

justnanous said: "same sex marriages forced into the churches"

what a reactionary load of crap! do you EVER think for yourself, or do you just spout Fox News Commentary? what church do you know has ever been "forced" to hold a marriage ceremony?

"Marriage" is both a religious concept and a civil one. MY RELIGION says men can marry men, and ladies, ladies. America is a vast melting pot, and people have DIFFERENT RELIGIONS! I will not go into a Catholic church and attempt to get a priest to marry two men. IT AIN'T HAPPENING! You visit my church, a MoreLight Presbyterian church, and you will most certainly see a gay wedding. and guess what. It's not against the law to hold a wedding ceremony for two men.
The issue in the news and courts is the CIVIL aspect of marriage, and the benefits married couples receive from the STATE, which is forbidden in the Constitution from observing a specific religion, neither yours nor mine. But if you get some benefits for your happy home, I want the same for mine. simple as that.
My job is done here!

2006-07-07 09:52:47 · answer #6 · answered by tkdeity 4 · 0 0

I love pushing my homosexuality on everyone else! I ain't seeking approval from anyone. I'm not hiding from anyone. I don't want there to be any confusion about who I am and what I am.

I hope it rubs off on all of them and that they all become gay overnight. (like it's going to change the whole world!). I hope everyone lies in bed sleepless at night cause they can't get their minds off of what I might / might not be doing in my own bedroom. (Geese!)

I love letting the world know how much I love my husband, and how much I enjoy being faithful to him.

After many many years of religion shoved down my throat, and heterosexuality flaunted all over the place, it's passed time for my day of reckoning.

2006-07-07 07:34:24 · answer #7 · answered by My Big Bear Ron 6 · 0 0

Ask the leftist media why they have to show all of these trendy gays on TV like it's the greatest thing! You watch pretty soon people are going to get in trouble w/the law for not acknowledging back-door fornicators! And you ******* call that not pushing?

2006-07-08 01:52:16 · answer #8 · answered by CHHine 2 · 0 0

People outside of the main stream culture who come out of hiding and express themselves, in this case homosexuals are often considered by the mainstream culture to be "pushing their lifestyle on others." During the civil rights campaign it was black people "pushing their lifestyle." Before that it was the women's suffrage movement, (women's right to vote) women "pushing their life style." This is the classical pattern of resistance presented by the majority. It's funny that few ever ask them why it is they are trying to push their heterosexual lifestyle on us.

2006-07-07 10:32:12 · answer #9 · answered by Tara H 2 · 0 0

I am going to go a different route with this...I was in college and Albany and had a male friend (straight but not narrow) very good looking guy. We were walking down the street and I ran into a few gay guys that I knew. When I intorduced my friends to one another, the gay men started, right off the top, making remarks to my straight friend (we'll call him John). John very politely laughed and said "thanks, I'm straight but appreciate the compliment" (he was reallly gay friendly) the other guys started telling him he wasn;t straight, he knew he wanted man etc etc. Making all kinds of remarks that were uncalled for, inappropiate, and just out-right disrespectful. I was ashamed, embarassed and left there hoping that all the people in the community were not like this (i'd only been out and about for about a year). I've later found that most of gay men and lesbians are NOT like this, but the small handful of "bad apples" are what conservative groups will focus on because it supports their ... ignorance ideas. These men that night were no better than the people I meet who tell me my girlfriend or/and I just "haven't found the right man yet".

As for pushing the gay lifestyle by demanding equal rights, in that sense, there is no pushing it on them. We must be out and open and demand our equal rights. And if someone does not like that then to hell with them I say. I will not sit quiety and let life pass me by so you can exist in your happy little paint-by-numbers world pretending we don't exist.

Alternative lifestyles should be taught in schools, you wanna know why/? For the first 17 years of my life I never understood why I was different. Why I didnt feel like my female friends felt. I grew up in a small town and had no idea that homosexuality was a choice. But I knew I did notl like guys "that way". In order to deal with these feelings I started drinking...alot. It led to other things, and even by the time I came out of the closet and realized it to myself, I had already fallen too far to get up. I spent about 10 years drinking, smoking or sniffing anything I could get my hands on until I ended up in jail facing a lot of serious time. This is not a sympathy story cuz I knew the difference between right and wrong, but I had already developed a pattern, a cycle, that I wasn't able to break.And then I did with 2 years of rehabilitation and alot of counseling. Now I am back on track, Another friend of mine who was dealing with coming out tried to kill himself. Luckily his mother didn't have any serious medication (hormone pills HA hA). Had we been taught younger that what we were feeling is normal, these things could have been avoided.I wish I had seen gay pride parades and knew about supportive groups in the gay community, it may have saved me alot of time and trouble. Many teens go through something similar, some die trying to deal with it. Think about your chuld and just entertain the possibility that homosexuals are born that way, and what if they feel that way? would you rather they accepted an alternative lifestyle or deal with their feelings by drowning or drugging them or attempting suicide. Wouldn't you love them and want them to be happy? even if they don't go the path of these things, would you honestly rather see them in an unhappy, unfulfilling, "cover" marriage", than happy in a gay relationship?

We don;t want to make the whole world gay, we just want to make the world see that we are normal people, who want to be happy and live our lives. We want to get married, buy a house, go on vacation, have family BBQ's. and have allt he family fights and problems that come with it.

2006-07-07 11:07:29 · answer #10 · answered by scorp 3 · 0 0

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