God or evolution?

Question

My friends and i are discussing.
Was is God that created the Earth with the tradtional Adam&eve story?
Or was it evolution from which the human race evolved?

Answer 1

I think the ape theory.

Answer 2

Evolution! Obviously the world was surrounded by water there is proof! How is it that one day fish are the only ones around then the next land and people are here from some great person in the sky evolution had to occur or no one would be here nothing magically appeard every thing just evolved and evolved and evolved into the species we have today! Im sure some of that was breeding with other things but evolution all the way "God" makes no since and has no evidence backing it

Answer 3

Creationism Vs. Evolution

or if you are of a more recent bent: Intelligent Design Vs. Evolution.


Depp Questions. I'll be brief: Humans have always been, and always will be, curious. We make observations and we NEED to have an explanation for what we observe.

In the earlier eras of Humanity, observers explained their observatios with the Available Methods: Stories. With thousands of years' time to hone these "explanations," some rather complex ideas will (and have developed).

I was a firm Christian Believer for 26 of 29 years of my life. I NO LONGER ACCEPT CREATIONISM.

It is a stubbornly narrow minded method for explaining what goes on around us, and what happens to us.

We know have plenty of Tools available to help Observers generate Proper Explanations for Phenomena: Apollo does not cart the Sun around in his chariot, In Fact the Sun doesn't move at all....IT IS THE EARTH!! And we know why: Gravity. Just to use one example.

Someone who gave an earlier answer said it best: You cannot PROVE something to someone who feels threatened by any explanations that are contrary to their own

There may be a place for a God/Designer in our Univerese, but I do not believe Humans have come any where near finding him/her/it/them, whatever.

Answer 4

I believe God controlled evolution. he created a blueprint of all animals, and allowed it evolve. That's why no matter how much you change, you retain some of the God given qualities.

Answer 5

I'm honored that someone thought highly enough of my respopnse to a request for proof of evolution that they quoted me.
Thanks. :)

Anyway, I believe in theistic evolution. Yes. God created us, and He used evolution to do it.

Whether we evolved from Homo erectus, apes, monkeys, fish, pond scum, would it make us any less human? Any less saved? Any less loved by God? Of course not.

It amuses me when fundamentalists gripe about how they don't want to come from apes. As if what they want has any bearing on what happened, why, or how.

I guess, somehow, coming from dirt is better.

Genesis can be read literally or allegorically. The Genesis creation story is actually very similar to the creation stories of other cultures in that region. When Genesis was written, the intent of it was to explain that only one God created everything. The other pagan religions believed there was a God for wind, another for the sun, another for weather, etc. It wasn't supposed to explain science. Genesis explains the who's and whys, not the hows or whens.

If Genesis was literally true, it would predict that the fossil record would be quite disarrayed, with primitive fishes, dinosaurs, and modern mammals all within the same strata. This is clearly not what we observe.

If creation is to be accepted as a theory, competitive with evolution, it would need to explain how the fossils in each strata show a progression. It would need to explain homologous similarities, as well as genetic similarities. In short, it would need to adequately explain the same things that are explained by evolution.

Creationists try to work around the progression of the fossil record by claiming multiple creation events over history. There is no scriptural reason to believe in multiple creation events over the span of history. Even if there were, there would have to have been many more than just six. They may throw in the "one day to God is a thousand years to man" mantra. But when arguing for scientific evidence of literal Genesis, one must infer that six days means six days. It just doesn't work.

Creationists claim that homologous structures, vestigial limbs in particular as not vestigial at all. Our tailbone does indeed serve its purpose. However, creationists wrongly assume that vestigial limbs are no longer used for anything at all. If an organism can be found to survive and thrive without a vestigial structure, than it proves that the structure is indeed vestigial. An example of this would be the little stubs on the backs of wingless flies. Another example is the spurs on pythons and boas. The males use them to stimulate the female during mating. If these are removed, the males can still mate. And creationism doesn't explain why the females have them too.The males are not stimulated by them. They get worked up enough by the smell of the pheromones that the females release when they are ready to mate.

There are several passages of the Bible itself that indicate that it should not be taken literally:
2 Corinthians 3:6 says of the new covenant, "the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."
1 Corinthians 9:9-12 says that one of the laws of Moses is figurative, not literal.
Galatians 4:24 says that the story of Abraham is an allegory.
Jesus frequently taught in parables, with the obvious intention that the lesson from the story, not the details of the story, was what was important.

In order to read the bible literally, it would be quite helpful to have an agreed upon definition of the terms it uses. What is a "kind?" "Fountains of the deep?" What the heck are the "springs of the great deep," or the floodgates of Heaven?" Even creationists are in disagreement over what many of these terms mean, and many of the translations contibute to the confusion.

I hear creationists often say that it is not for us to determine which verses of the bible to interpret metaphorically, and that it should all be read literally. But in Luke, Jesus advises us that we cannot be His disciples if we do not "hate" or family, from our parents, to our children, to ourselves. If read in context, it apparently means we must indeed hate everybody. Obviously, this is not the case, and an explanation for this scripture is available, but the explaination isn't found within the bible. Who is to pick and choose?

My biggest problem with creationists is that their arguments are nothing more than a distraction from the true message of the bible.

St. Augustine said it best...
"It is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn" (Augustine 1982, 42-43).

Answer 6

I am a believer but I think evolution also plays a very important role in the process of Creation.

Answer 7

if god was in fact the creator of earth with adam and eve, well we pretty much all going to hell since we have bn having sex and expanding our population with our brothers and sister, and in evolution we pretty much can follow our decendants alll the way to the chimps which is our close relative in the chain of evolution, so i vote for evolution.

Answer 8

I believe that evolution is the origin of modern humans. There are also tons of evidence of evolution, such as fossils tracing back millions of years ago.

Answer 9

evolution, I hope there isnt a god, because if there is hes not a good guy. Just look at the world

Answer 10

God.
It's so obvious when I look around. The wonderful God created this beautiful universe ...
I am not from an ape .. I'm wonderfully created.

Answer 11

adam and eve are false but god creasted the big bang and worked slowly to create us then he made evolution to turn us into what we are