Why do Palestinians say that Israel is occupying state if Israel won 2 legitimate wars for it?

Question

First it was WW2 and second was the attack against Israel that Israelis won in 7 days. Take Mexico as an example, the U.S. won the war against them and took charge of certain territory. Does that mean that mexicans are going to be straping bombs around their bellies and killing innocent people in Texas?

Answer 1

well, Israel didnt really win WW2 cuz they werent around then. However, they have one several minor wars since then, usually extremely outnumbered, usually with their enemy employing one or more devious tactics (like attacking on a Jewish Holy Day... im looking at you, Yom Kippure War). The major point of contention is that they didnt really win it from the Palistinians as much as they had it handed to them by us and the British, an act many see as being out of our guilt for not making more of an effort to help them. The problem is, every point of argument that detractors of Isreal have is rooted, unfortunately, in realistic flaws, the first and foremost of which is that no one has the power to take it from them, even combined (they tried it once). There is a whole lot of moral outrage in the world today, but moral outrage is worth about as much as a bag of douche if you can't back it up with the means to make it a physical reality. There are only two major truths in this life... yes folks, unfortunately, might makes right... the victors write the history books, after all. Isrealies claim the land is theres, they have the power to back up the claim, therefore, by a neccessary logical conclusion, the land is theres. Thats reality. Secondly, you never bite the hand that feeds you, something the Palistinians do daily. The fact is, Isreal is VERY GOOD to Palistine... they basically prop up what little government and infrastructure the Palistinians have economically. It is a very unwise decision to piss off the landlord, which is exactly what Israel is, realistically (if Isreal wanted to, they could forcefully "evict" them whenever they wanted to, and the Arab world has proven they can not or will not do anything about it). Lastly, for all the belly aching from the Arab world, their arguments are grounded in hypocracy. After all, have you ever heard of an Arab government saying "hey, Palistinians, come live here!"... no, of course you havent. Its never happened. If the Arab world doesnt even care about Palistine, why should Isreal?

Answer 2

No. Actually, the survivors of the Holocaust came to this region that was formerly known as Palestine. The British Empire gave these lands to the Jewish people. Here is an interesting history of the young state of Israel.

And regarding the Six Day War, someone said that the US won the war for Israel. Allow me to retort. Israel had the worst of everything. Old tanks that moved on prayer and guns where some were homemade.

Answer 3

The comparison to US winning wars against Mexico does not work. The US obtained land from Mexico as a result of war, and more importantly a legitimate signed TREATY signed by both US and Mexico. There was no such treaty signed between the Palestinians and Jews. Israel simply claimed the territory as its own...illegally.
Israel didn't win WWII... it didn't even exist back then. Key words here are "didn't even exist". Israel was created in 1948 after hundreds of thousands of Israelis were granted citizenship in PALESTINE, which was at the time under British control/mandate. Normally, when people want to migrate and settle in another country, they have to apply and wait long years to receive a green card/visa/document of that nature. However, since Palestine was under British control, the indigenous Muslim and Christian Palestinians did not have a say in limiting the Jewish migration. As a result, hordes of Jews flooded into Palestine. It is true that the Jews used money and legitimately bought all their land (back then... different story now). However, it is unjust that those Jews were even allowed into the country without the consent of the native Palestinians. Additionally, Israel was supported and still is supported by the US with $8 billion a year of Americans' tax money as well as weapons. It is these weapons (M-16 rifles, tanks, and F-16 fighter jets) that give Israel its power today and what gave Israel its power in 1967 and 1973 to fight off the attacking Arab countries. Those Arab countries were merely fighting to kick Israeli settlers out of land that was given to them by the British. When those Arab countries lost (thanks to US weapons and money), Israel took control of those territories (West Bank and Gaza) and claimed it for themselves (this is ILLEGAL as decreed by the UN and Geneva Conventions).

Answer 4

Uhhh, referencing Mexico doesn't make any sense. Mexicans were spaniards that stole the land from the original owners a short time before the war with the US. The palestinians were living there for over 1000s of years so its a bit different. Since they have a history of living on the land for like 6x the amount of time america has been around I can sort of see where a grivence would arise. Plus mexicans have a huge country besides texas unlike Pals which have no country. So try another analogy...

Answer 5

Texas was just a small additon to an already large and vibrant nation. A completely different situation exists with israel which was created out of land taken from an existing nation by a vote of people not residing there. Israel is a little smaller sizewise that the state of idaho in the usa.

Answer 6

Ahhh Brockton, last time I heard the name Pancho Villa is as Mexican as it gets. If the palestinians were to have spent 45 years establishing themselves peacefully, the might have had a legitimate place already. Mexico is a country which has fought wars with the French, Spaniards and Americans. I think it is reasonable to compare them since Mexico and US are neighboring countries just like Israel and Palestine.

Answer 7

So why aren't the Jews piss off at Europe for kicking them out and making them seek other places to live i.e. Palestine? Why aren't the Palestinians pissed at the British for giving part of Palestine to the Jews? Furthermore, the Mexicans are taking over California and lots of other states too!

Answer 8

The Palestinians, as I understand it, are the outcasts of the Arab
world. Now, throw in the Jewish state and you have a growing
problem. There has been fighting over land in the Middle East
for over a thousand years. What makes you think we can solve
this problem !

Answer 9

Take the US, for example. they marched into Mexico City, but didn't permanently occupy the country , or kill the women and kids.

Your Seven Day War was won by the US, not Israelis.

Answer 10

dear tex ,it was the 6 day war and was won by the israrli's not the u s,and as far as your war with mexico you stole texas and callifornia from them,palestine was part of israel 3000 years ago so was part of egypt , part of syria ,all of jordon, part of lebanon,israel was a large country then,, to answer your question the palestinians are no more entitled to palestine(which was renamed )as they are to iceland.