does homosexuality hurt society?

Question

i believe that many people are "harmed" by homosexuality

for example, many homosexuals have argued they have a right to be married. i am all for equal rights. you might ask, then why don't you argree homosexuals should have the same marriage rights?

because marriage is a religious and christian tradition. christians have the right to decide what goes on with our traditions. what about the homosexuals you might ask.

civil unions are the answer. they may not provide all the same rights marriage does, but i say, instead of arguing for marriage rights, why not argue for equal civil union rights? that way, both marriage and civil unions will be equal in all ways but religion.

next issue: many straight men/woman suffer from homosexuals "coming on to them". i am a victim of this and i was extreamly humiliated, angered, and frightened all at once. this guy knew i was striaght and yet decided to harrass me in this way

what do you think? being a victim in both cases, i am firm

christians strated the act of marriage, is what i'm saying, and america, having christian roots, adopted the tradition as a government and civil act

there should be an alternative to marriage especially for homosexuals

Answer 1

homosexuality harms society in other ways too. Its lack of morality and spirituality is reminisent of the fall of many great societies, such as the Roman Empire (think Caligula). Homosexuality glorifies deviant sexual behavior, and bases ones entire existence and identity on sex. This is something that most heterosexuals dont do. Homosexuals cannot reproduce (naturally). Lesbians can only reproduce by artificial means, thus the breakdown in the basic unit of society, the family.

As far as homosexuals coming on to straights, it happens to us all. For some reason they think they can convert us. I didn't feel humiliated, or frightened, but it did get on my nerves. I dont mind a one time come on, but when they refuse to take no for an answer is when I get pissed off. When they not only not take no for an answer, but try to get physical is when I can become dangerous. Its not really homophobic, its NO!

Gay marraige I am not for. I dont see it as equal rights, I see it as special rights. Why? Because gays already have the same rights as we do. A gay man can marry a woman, and a lesbian can marry a man. That is the identical rights as we all have. But a special right for them is to allow them to marry same sex. Whats next? A man marrying his dog? A bisexual marrying both a man and a woman?

And finally, if some gay people will not take no for an answer when trying to come on to straights, whos to say they don't do the same to kids? On a kid they can easily overpower...so I think its dangerous. Some say pedophiles are not the same thing, but if the pedophile is same sex, the lines are somewhat blurred, right. An older lesbian woman and a small girl is not homosexuality? Yeah right.

Answer 2

No, marriage is not a Christian tradition. If you argue that then are you saying that Buddhists are not married? Christianity is not the only religion in the world, yet any couple who goes through a wedding ceremony is considered married. Also, many heterosexual couples in this country are married, yet do not belong to a church or any type of organized religion. Why then are they considered married? What is the difference between them and a homosexual couple? Should everyone in this country who does not believe in organized religion only be given the option of a civil union?
Next issue, now you know just a little of what most women go through. We are harrassed and persued constantly by men that we have told we have no interest in! Everyone has been asked out or admired by someone that we would not ever consider dating. If he was harrassing you, it was not because he was gay, it was because he is a stalker with mental problems.
I am a staight, married woman but I have many homosexual friends. Both male and female, I have never been harrassed by any of them. They know I'm straight and they respect that. They are looking for their life long love just like straight people are. They do not want someone that does not want them. If they do, then like I said before, they are mental and need help.
Why can't people just let other people live their lives the way they want? It is none of my, yours, or anyone elses business who someone chooses to love. As long as they are not hurting or inflicting pain on another human being, leave them alone!

Answer 3

Marriage is NOT a religious/christian tradition it is just something that 2 people that love each other do.

if it was a religious/christian tradition when why do we preform at least 10 per week at my office, I work for the court system, people get married by judges there all the time and oddly enough it is still considered a marriage even though it is not even remotely religious... (note the sarcasm..)

I would love the option to even have a civil union wherein I would have the same rights as a straight couple but in Idaho that is not even legal... sadly I cannot marry my partner of almost 7 years now but people that have just met can get married tomorrow and divorced next week and then re-marry the same day the divorce is final if they so choose to any person of the OPPOSITE sex, but if i want a simple piece of paper stating that Jen is my WIFE that is illegal.

To me it is a bunch of crap.

Answer 4

As many people have stated before, marriage, according to you, may have been "started" through a Christian tradition, but I do not think it is defined in that sense alone. Marriage is also a governmental affair, which has absolutely nothing to do with any religion of any kind. There are various legal rights that married, heterosexual couples take for granted that homosexual couples are denied. I believe someone already stated a few of them, so I see no need to get into that.

As for being hit on by a gay/lesbian person, I say you should take it as a compliment. I know many people do get a bit thrown off when someone of the same sex "comes onto them," but having been on the receiving end of such flattery, I took it in a positive way. I have many lesbian or bi-sexual friends who have complimented me; why would I take it to be "harrassment" when they were giving my confidence a boost?

Take all the good feedback you can get when it's given to you.

Answer 5

Much to my own surprise, I agree with you almost completely to the first question. In a way. The problem is a linguistic one at its route; we don't already have seperate words for the religious thing that's going on (which you refer to as "marriage") and the legal thing that's going on (which people at large refer to ALSO as "marriage" because it often goes hand in hand with the religious thing). As for why the movement doesn't specifically try to stop the use of the word "marriage" for all the legal stuff, I think that some people would then say "Look! See! They're trying to destroy marriage!". So instead, the movement has focused on trying to educate people that there are a number of things going on with marriage, and that the only thing they're trying to change is the LEGAL part. No one is trying to MAKE your priest bless a union of two guys or two girls, and Christians WERENT the first to have the concept of "marriage". Your specific Christian tradition, therefore, is by no means threatened (as stated; this isn't about the church ceremonies and most people aren't fighting for inclusion there; we've got churches, Christian ones even, which already bless the union).

As for hitting on someone...I will admit it's tricky. It's a social fact of finding a mate that someone you're interested in might not be interested in you. Have you ever had a chick you would NEVER consider dating come on to you? Does that mean that heterosexuality "hurts society"? No. It means that you need to learn the social skills to deal with the situation. As in all situations regarding "coming on to" someone else, there are inappropriate times completely (such as the workplace), and you do walk a fine line with sexual harassment. In most places, though, not the case. As for someone knowing you're straight; I'm going to really hope you aren't just saying "I wasn't out as gay, so that means I'm clearly straight" and expecting other people to go with that. Also acknowledging the existence of bisexuals, this pretty much means the words "I'm straight" at some point left your lips. if that happened and someone is still hitting on you, I personally think the individual is kind of a jerk, but in no way "harming society". Harassing YOU does not equal "harming society". There's plenty of straight guys that try to pick up lesbians; they're equally jerks.
I would say what every mother tells their child: ignore them and they'll go away. I think another major possibility is that people get a "not particularly gay friendly" vibe off of you, and take delight in making you uncomfortable. WHY are you so uncomfortable? Frankly, the feelings meantioned (humiliation, anger, fright) aren't really appropriate to every situation of getting hit on. If the person was particularly aggressive about it, perhaps, but you didn't mention circumstances that should elicit such feelings. It implies a very literal homophobia on your part. (If it was a really big guy that was being really aggressive and demanding, don't get me wrong; I might be scared too, but you didn't mention those specifics). Incidentally, a tip to my straight friends when getting hit on; always be "not available" instead of straight. Some jerks who would try to "turn" a straight guy will leave you alone if they think you're gay but taken.

Harming society? Not by a long shot. Are some individuals jerks? As always; much like the straight population.

Answer 6

Christianity really should have NO bearings on the right to marry, because marriage is an institution of the STATE GOVERNMENT. Does nobody remember "separation of church and state"? If two people are not acting in accordance with state laws, then why the license?

I'm a married woman who feels largely unaffected by this topic. Since when do Christians have the final say? Have we also revoked our right to freedom of religion?

Christians ask "What would Jesus do?" but rarely stop to consider how Jesus treated those who were considered outcasts of society, like ... ummm ... homosexuals, prostititutes, and those with leprosy and syphilis.

In case you haven't noticed, people from other religions marry as well ... or those who profess no religion at all.

Answer 7

First of all, marriage has been around longer than Christianity. Every religion has it's own marriage ceremony-Jews, Muslims, Pagans, etc, etc, etc. So it is not a Christian tradition.

Second of all, how horrible that a homosexual came onto you! However did you survive such a terrible, life-altering experience?!?! How long were you hospitalized? Didn't you sue him for the costs of therapy you had to endure for years? C'mon, this is seriously the worst thing you can come up with? That's it?!?! I think that you are looking for an excuse to hate homosexuals. And if that is the best you can do, you need help.

Answer 8

I absolutely agree that marriage is a religious issue, that is why I am deeply concerned about gay marriage being banned.

There is no threat, all of the rhetoric about gay marriage is simply a method of trying to keep moderates opposed while a certain subgroup of denominations manipulate the government to crush the rights of another subgroup of denominations.

I support governmental recognition of all marriages performed by recognized religious group, and that is the secret about the gay marriage question.

The gay marriage fight is really a battle between two groups of religious denominations - Christian and other in both cases. That battle is being missed by the media, and I believe that the battle threatens democracy in America.

One of the reasons for the Revolution, in which ancestors of mine fought -- was to establish freedom of religion in the new nation. Now, we are throwing that away, because contrary to what those on the Right would like you to think, this is not a battle between "people of faith" and "atheists" or some such -- this is a battle between two groups of people of faith, using the government to establish one sides views -- the EXACT THING that the anti-establishmentarian clause of the Constitution is there to prevent.

Of course no one should "make" those whose faiths oppose gay marriage perform such marriages, and no one ever would. So ministers from the Southern Baptists and Assemblies of God and Ultra-Orthodox Jews and Fundamentalist Muslims should never be asked to perform gay marriages, and certainly not forced to.

On the other hand, why should faith groups that support gay marriage -- such as the United Church of Christ, the Unitarian/Universalist Society, the North American Spiritualist Church, Reform Judaism, and the Correllian Tradition of Wicca -- all recognized Churches and 501c3s be barred from practicing their religious faiths, which say it is ok to marry same sex couples?

The first group of faith groups is realistically using the government to prevent the second group of faith groups from practicing what they believe and having it legally recognized. The founders tried to prevent this, for the stability of the country. It doesn't matter that everyone "thinks" they are right and others are wrong -- it matters that we are plural as a society and the government should recognize everyone's ceremonies the same -- which means that gay marriages committed by churches and faith groups that believe in gay marriages, should be honored by the government regardless of what groups that don't like it say.

Everyone's beliefs can be honored, thus preserving the values that my 12 times removed Great Grandfather died for -- but not if we allow one side to legislate away the rights of the other side.

Since I do not believe the government should be used to control religious belief -- I think that the government should recognize gay marriage, when performed by members of clergy -- and should create a civil union equivalent for those interested only in secular marriage.

Otherwise we should stop saying we don't have an establishment of religion.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones
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Answer 9

Does homosexuality hurt society?

Of course not. How utterly absurd.

I'm for "Civil Unions" IF "Civil Unions" would provide EQUAL Access to marital benefits. I couldn't care less what it's called as long as my partner and I are covered legally as are the married Breeders.

Stop the victimization crap. Your poor, poor thing.
Do you have any idea how many Breeder females "come on" to Gay men?!
And how many Breeder males do you think come on to my Sisters hoping that "all she needs is a 'real man'".
Puh-leeze! We've dealt with your type for millennia and frankly it's getting boring.

Happy cheeks, next time (IF you're so fortunate) just say NO, go back to bed and pretend it was just a semi-moist dream.

Gimme a break.....

Answer 10

i see what your problem is. you have cognitive dissonance (when you have either two thoughts that contradict each other, or a behavior that contradicts a thought). you said that you believe in equal rights, yet you say that we don't deserve to marry. now, I'm sorry if some drunk or sober gay guy hit on you (if he meant it, because some of us just joke around with straight guys), but that doesn't mean that we all are so rude and inartistic towards others. plus, marriage is not a christian tradition. it is spreads to other religions too. Muslims, Judaism, LaVeyistic Satanism (i would say Satanism in general, but i don't know if the other forms of Satanism are recognized legally), etc. besides, you don't even have to marry in a religious fashion. you can marry in a court house. one of my friend's mom was. thus, it's not just a religious tradition either. besides, some traditions deserve to change.

Answer 11

Sweetness, for the last twenty-five years I and my partner have had a monogamous relationship. We have gone above and beyond in trying to be kind to our fellow being (human or otherwise) and have tried to benefit the communities in which we have lived. Yet she can't put me on her health insurance, nor can we get other perks, neither of a civil union nor of marriage. Personally I have considered myself married for a quarter of a century.
You're not a victim of gayness unless you *choose* to be. Stop it and think how many people you're hurting. I'm not hurting anyone. You are.