God and Jesus (pbuh) Christ are not one and the same person. Proved. Agree? Trinity is fake.?

Question

The same person can be a father, a brother and a businessman at the same time.
But suppose the sister of that man tells him a secret, it is but natural that the father and the businessman also will know about it.
Contrary to this, Jesus (pbuh) has said in the Bible, in the Gospel of Mark, chapter 13 verse 32
"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
Here the knowledge of the hour is only known to the Father and not to the Son, indicating that God and Jesus (pbuh) Christ are not one and the same person.
A human being can be a father,a brother,and a businessman at the same time, but if the brother dies, even the father
and the businessman will die.Thus, when the Christians say that Jesus (pbuh) died on the cross they will have to agree that
God and the Holy Spirit also died.
Please come 2 the TRUE WORD OF GODcalled Qur'an.
Remember
There is no god but Allah, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the messenger of Allah

Answer 1

There is no god but Allah, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is the last messenger of Allah

That is true.
They wont even believe that 2+2=4, if you will say them they will answer you that it is not 4 it is 5 or 3.

Answer 2

Your ignorance on who the trinity really is is puzzling. The answer is simply this: When Jesus said that even though he did not know the time of the end, he was confirming his humanity. Of course God the Father knows the time, and Jesus and the Father are one. But when Jesus became a man, he voluntarily gave up the unlimited use of his dive attributes.
The emphasis of this verse is not on Jesus' lack of knowledge but rather on the fact that no one knows. Is is God the fathers secret to be revealed when he wills. No one can predict by scripture or science the exact day of jesus' return. Jesus is teaching that preparation, not CALCULATION, is needed. By the way, show me evidence the quaran is mildly true. Back it up if you will.

Answer 3

The problem with that original argument is that it Is possible for a human to know something at some times and not know it at others. Although the medical jury is still undecided as to the true nature of multiple personality disorder, it has been documented to the point of acceptance (as I understand it) that it Is possible for someone to know something in some segmented form of self and not know it at other times.

As we aren't really speaking about people but about the potential nature of god, things are more complicated (it seems unfair to me to use a metaphorical situation involving humans and then apply it to god, especially in the case of a human being dying, since god is supposed to be eternal).

Here, the definition of death is hazy. Death normally refers to the ceasation of function of a body (ie loss of brain activity). In this case, however, we're not really talking about god dying, but supposing that jesus's body died, which would theoretically have no impact on his soul, divine or otherwise.

I just don't think that argument refutes the argument of a trinity. I also don't think it either proves or disproves anything regarding Allah or Muhammad's validity.

Answer 4

I understand this is confusing. How can god be Jesus and t he
holy spirit? Here is an example take a raw egg. First there is the hard whit shell, but one it is cracked open there is the yolk and the white stuff too. With out All three the egg could not be complete. God Jesus And the holy spirit are like that egg. There is one egg but three different parts parts that all go together.

God is Real
God Bless U

Answer 5

The Trinity of God
M't:3:16: And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:
M't:3:17: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
FIRST YOU MUST BELIEVE. AMEN

Answer 6

Excellent question!
Father Son and Spirit are one in essence in the same way water, ice and steam are all chemically h2o. The amazing thing about Jesus is that he became obedient to humble himself which meant he was going to have to suffer humiliation and death and sometimes not know the exact outcome such as when he would return. I am so glad to know he did not stay dead but raised on the third day and now is reunited with the Father. This one fact - proven on many fronts - establishes his deity. You can even see it in Genesis before Ismael was born....reference below. May God give you enlightenment.

Answer 7

While I agree that the concept of Trinity is nonsense, so is the concept of god. Your own beliefs ultimately rest only on the words of some guy from the 7th century who you've never even met.

Other than his own words and a bunch of legends surrounding him, what reason do you have to even suspect the things he wrote might be true?

Answer 8

If Christ is not devine then there is a hole in the process of redemption. See Anselm's "Why God Became Man"

Besides, Father and Son are metiphorical terms used to describe relational dynamics, not literal relations. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit have always been and have no begining or end. You also forget that Christ rose from the dead and asended to the right hand of God which means that He is equal with God and is God.


John 17:20-22
20"My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one:

1 John 2:23
No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

John 8:20
"You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also." He spoke these words while teaching in the temple area near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his time had not yet come.

John 10:29-31
29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[a]; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30I and the Father are one."

John 17:11
I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name—the name you gave me—so that they may be one as we are one.

John 5:18
For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

Philippians 2:5-7
5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.

Answer 9

A quick answer using H2O:

Water is H2O in liquid form.
Ice is H2O in solid form.
Water Vapor is H2O is gas form.

They are all H2O, but in different forms. Agreed? But if I want some H2O, you will likely presume I am talking about water, even though I could easily be referring to ice or vapor.

Now, consider God like H2O.
The Father is God
The Son is God
The Spirit is God

When I say I love "God" most people will usually think of the "Father" God even though I may be referring to the Son or the Spirit. They are all GOD but in different forms. So they are different entities that are all together as one God.

I hope that made sense... Be blessed!

Answer 10

I learned something new today, I didn't realize you believe that way. Members of THE CHURCH of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints also believe that GOD, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are three seperate beings ONE in purpose.

article of Faith 1
We believe in God the Eternal Father, and in His Son Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.