terrorist or resistance fighters?

Question

during ww2 the french and polish fighters were called resistance fighters because they fought an occuping force.isn't this exactly what the malitias are doing in iraq?fighting a resistance force?then why do we call them terrorist?

Answer 1

I am at loss for words at the bias and discrimination in people's answers when it comes to Arabs and or Muslims.

People here are making judgments based on what?
-Your own personal experience?
- Are you historians who have lived the situation?
- Have you met and lived the lives and circumstances of the people you are so easily labeling / calling terrorists?

Really? At least the Iraqi's / Arabs (whatever their nationality is) are fighting on Iraqi soil. They did not, fly over to somebody else's land, seize it, bomb it with banned weapons & tons of bombs under the lame excuse of giving “the people” democracy and freedom.

And for those who are still saying Iraq or whatever, flew the planes into the twin towers, direct you anger and hatred towards those who actually pulled the twin towers down by the use of dynamite / thermate and who actually administered 9/11 – you might actually be doing something to really benefit people instead of assisting the media in spreading its deceiving propoganda.

Who is the terrorist?
1. Those who invaded another country despite there was no legitimate excuse or approval from the U.N. - worldwide refusal by many nations amongst of which were the American citizens who strongly opposed the war through many public demonstrations?

2. Those who used false evidence and kept changing the reasons behind the invasion till they ran out reasons then came up with the brilliant idea of spreading democracy through terrorizing the invaded another country by:
- Bombing people in their homes using depleted uranium, napalm bombs and yellow phosphorous not only hurting the “bad Arabs”, but their own soldiers as well!

- Bursting into peoples homes at any time during the day or night, killing the inhabitants including children, women and elderly in cold blood and most recently raping a minor female before the rest of her family before burning body to cover for the crime!
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/07/imagine-for-moment-that-it-was-you-in.html
www.flurl.com/uploaded/Bareknucklepoliticscom_EXCLUSIVE_10122.html - watch the video

- Planting explosives in civilian cars and taxis at military / police checkpoints to blame it on the “insurgent / Iraqi / multinational Arab terrorists” who are fighting the democratic / friendly invaders!
www.uruknet.info/?p=m12022&l=i&size=1&hd=0

3. Those who send off their soldiers to a war allowing them to use depleted uranium which will not only affect the “bad Arabs”, but also the soldiers and their children for generations to come.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/06/341238.shtml

For God’s sake is this democracy! And deep down in your hearts think about this and put yourselves in the Iraqi people’s position and answer to your self -who do really believe is the real terrorist – people invading a country that is far \ away from them to give them freedom and democracy or the people refusing the invasion, imprisonment, torture, murder on their own land and soil under under false reasons?

By the way I am not an Iraqi and I do hope that I never have to experience the circumstances they have /and are continuing to miserable experience and psychological trauma of the soldiers of the occupying countries.

Stanyazfan: Sorry for getting carried away – now in answer to your questions – they are freedom fighters – As to why they are called terrorists, well it’s really mixing the labels on the nations!
Please excuse me, I didn’t mean to be so forceful, but reading the replies you got in answer to your question, just set me going at the unawareness and insistence of applying double standards when it comes to the Arabs / Muslims without any basis or justification.

SNOWY: Thank you for taking the time to read my very long response, but I detect bitterness and anger on your side and lack of understanding of my words.

Why did you feel my words were accusations? I merely asked a few questions.
From where did you ever get that I said all Arabs are the same? Never even implied it and its’ not related to the meaning of my response.

What happens between the people of the same country is really their business and is not the issue under discussion in the question. I don’t’ the US would be happy if another invaded them because the dispute between African Americans and white Americans – wouldn’t you agree?
The issue under discussion is fighting invaders /occupiers of a country. The occupiers who have used yellow phosphorus, napalm bombs and depleted uranium (tons of bombs) on civilians. You really believe that the Iraqi’s think their occupiers are doing them any good with all that bombing!!

Please allow me to simplify the issue for you:
Assume you and your next-door neighbor have a disagreement, which has resulted in both of you attacking and harming each other, and at the same time the “leader” of your neighborhood was a very “bad” guy.

So someone from “another” neighborhood decides that your “leader” had to be removed because of “whatever” reason and that it his duty to bring order in your neighborhood. So this new guy moves into you neighborhood, takes over your house, imprisons you in the basement, beats your kids, destroys your garden and sabotages your house breaking everything all the while trying to convince you that he is really “bringing order” to your neighborhood and saving you form the harm caused by your neighbor.
Moreover this guy from the “other” neighborhood assigns a new “leader” to your neighborhood whom you did not choose and who is only following the orders of the guy who invaded your home.

Now if you fight back this invasion of your home, would you be a freedom fighter or a terrorist? If you had no weapons to match those used by your invader, wouldn’t you “create” anything to help you fight back and protect your family? Do you really think that you would want the guy who invaded your house to stay occupying your house because he is saving you from your neighbor’s harm?? Think not, but think about it yourself?

Now back to your comments: I trust your experience in the region is that you lived for quite some time amongst the “people” of this region and that your deep understanding of history comes from reliable sources.

It’s really funny how the internet holds silly websites when they do not agree with our views. Many “silly” websites show that the Iraqi do not agree with your view that the Iraqi government was democratically elected – actually they call it a “Puppet Government” elected by the occupiers and totally not trusted by the Iraqi people. Trust you looked into the “Uruknet” website to understand what the real Iraqi people think and want and not what you think they think and want.

Answer 2

No!

In France and Poland during WW2 the resistance were French and Polish nationals fighting against German soldiers.

In Iraq you have Syrians, Jordanians, Saudi's, Pakistanis, Egyptions, Sudanese, Algerians etc blowing up thousands of civilians, Iraqi police recruits and most bizarrely Shi'ite muslims as most of the "insurgents" are Sunni.

They are NOT iraqi's defending their homeland.

They kill very few of our soldiers because in a straight firefight they have a loss ratio currently of around 500:1

The majority of the Iraqi people would love to have peace, and would love to see their own army and police force (without Saadam) keeping law and order, and they know that as soon as that army and police force is strong enough we will hand over as the British have done succesfully in Samwarrah province.

They do not want to be ruled and intimidated by radical foreign Mujaheddin and need their new government to work.

You see that is the other main difference. We are only there now because we cannot leave as the insurgents will take over and there will be civil war. If the insurgents stopped, there would be no reason for us to stay. We actually need to get out as politically, militarily and economically it is undesireable to be there, and we need to hand over the the DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED Iraqi goverment asap .

Therefore the terrorists are keeping us there by their actions, not fighting to get us out.

That is the difference. It really isnt very hard to see past the rhetoric if you open both eyes.

NINA - To answer your accusations, yes my knowledge comes from years of personal experience in this region and some deep understanding of history.

NOT from silly internet conspiracy theory sites which propogate the same urban myths (sometimes with different dates / people etc) that have been floating around for ten years.

Some of the sites you list show pictures of "U.S soldiers commiting attrocities in Iraq" which I first saw five years ago on these and similar sites labelled as "Belgian soldiers commiting attrocities in Africa"

Also your blanket categorisation of all Arabs all being somehow the same no matter where they come from is patronising and racist. A Kurdish Iraqi is as different from a Marsh Arab Iraqi as a Japanese and a Nigerian.

Do not forget that many ordinary Iraqi citizens die every day right now due to the battle between Sunni Muslims and Shi'ite Muslims for power in what was a secular state. To call those people freedom fighters is naive and misguided.

Wake up and smell the B.S

Answer 3

well yes and no
resistance fighter are someone in a still not defeated country with government maybe in another country and Iraq's old government was defeat in that they are dead or disbanded (not saying that the war is over because it is far from)

terrorist are not with any form of government that has ruled or rules. they are international and have independent funding.
terrorist are somewhat like mercenaries and soldiers of fortune

but Iraq you have both it's really a new thing see what I'm saying?so really their is no term for it when some are from a government or terrorist so i guess the correct way is terrorist

Answer 4

No these Militias in Iraq are not Freedom Fighters at all because they purposely kill Innocent Children and are wishing to bring Iraq back to Tyranny.

The French and Polish resistance Fighters really were resistance Fighters because they cared about their people especially Innocent Civilians (including Children).

Answer 5

A terrorist is somebody who selectively targets civilians. And in answer to your question about somebody who only targets combatants in Iraq - this would be up to Iraqi law. These 'resistance fighters' are seeking to overthrow a government that was elected in UN certified elections so they can replace it with a dictatorship (or theocracy) with themselves in charge. If you look at the political goals and motivations of the two sides - you will have to admit that the enemy is not on the side of the Iraqi people.

Answer 6

As the word may suggest :
TERRORist - the prime objective is to create terror
- create fear, threatening with death, suicide bombers

RESISTANCE fighters - They resist someone/something which is usually against their wills (the resistance fighters)
- to achieve liberation from invaders; to gain their freedom

Do not ask politicians such questions. The outcomes depend on where their selfish objectives are.

Live in peace and harmony, and we don't have to worry about differences between Terrorists or Resistance fighters,

Answer 7

We call them terrorists because they use fear and death as weapons.
Resistance fighters were fighting for their countries IN their countries.
The resistance fighters never flew plane loads of humans into buildings. Nor did they, for that matter, blow up market places with innocent people eating or just walking by.
The term terrorist means that terror is involved.
The resistance fighters were fighting the good fight.
However we perceive it, they hoped to end Nazism and fascism that ...if you check historical documents...managed to wipe out millions of unsuspecting Jewish people.
If resistance fighters were trying to stop genocide, we call them resistance fighters.
If people want their way and are willing to kill anything that stands in their way, then they are TERRORISTS.

Answer 8

because the us wants the support of its pppl so they play the name calling game. And the freedom fighter becomes a terrorist. and in response toTHE VOICE u r a moron... what do u think the marines in iraq r using? fear and death. so by that rational u just called the us military terrorists thanku for illustrating my point u nimrod

Answer 9

The winners write history, end of story.

The Nazis did most directly label them terrorists when they were operating. If the Nazis had won, they would be known today as "vanquished terrorists".

The Nazis also labeled pacifists and liberals as "terrorists".

Answer 10

Same as the Americans are the invading force

Answer 11

but they were fighting for their home land terrorist are invaders also
but keep trying some will think you are telling the truth but most know you are the enemy trying to split the country for your benefit