if ken grifey didnt get hurt would he be ahead of hank? bonds deal?

Question

amagin if aaron and ruth used steriods how many they would hit?
ruth still should be ahead do u no y ill tell u in the olden days if u were down by 1 and a man on if you hit a homerun it was scored as a triple and ruth had 7 of those that means ruth would have 721 and bonds 719

Answer 1

defintiely griffey rocks

Answer 2

If Griffey Jr. hadn't run into all the injury problems, he would be well over 600 home runs now, perhaps even nearing 700. But he would not have passed Aaron yet.
As for Ruth, also remember-baseball was segregated back then. That created a huge competitive advantage for Ruth, not having to play against the best black (or Latino) players.
I'm not denigrating his accomplishments, they're still real, but if you're going to play the "What if" game with Bonds, it's only fair to play it with Ruth as well.

Answer 3

Ruth had almost 800 fewer ABs than Aaron. Ruth faced the spitter and other nasty pitches that Aaron didn't face but Aaron faced lots of pitches Ruth didn't as well. All and all I'd consider thier playing field rather equal. Segragation didn't have a major impact as there were fewer teams at that time. So the talent was more concentrated thus evening out impact of segragation.

What did make an impact was Ruth played fewer games per season. Ruth was a pitcher for first 6 years of his caarer. What made the biggest difference was Ruth didn't take care of himself. He was overweight, never hit a weight room in his life, smoked and drank until late hours and then dragged himself into the ballpark hungover as often as not. Had Ruth had modern training that'd added quite a few HRs. However lets assume an equal number of ABs. That'd give Ruth close to 1,000 career HRs. Ruth was also robbed of many Home runs by the rules of the day. As too how many HRs that cost Ruth. Think about it this way. Picture Ruth hitting a triple. Not a likely sight is it. Ruth had double digit triples in 4 different seasons. It think it's safe to say at least half of his triples were actually HRs. Ruth had 136 career triples. That'd be 63 additional HRs. Ruth won his first HR crowns sometimes with 3 or 4 times as many HRs as the next closest hitter. That would be like hitting 120 HRs today.

Bonds before steroid use never topped 46 HRs. He only topped 40 HRs possibly 3 times before steroid use and a normal season for Bonds was around 35-40 HRs. His first year on steroids saw him hit 49 then 70 HRs. So that's at least a %20 improvement in HRs. That would give both Aaron around 1,000 HRs and Ruth at least 1100, probably more like 1200 assuming he took better care of himself. If you use his 70 HR mark that's a doubling of his HR total. If you doubled Ruth's normal HR total that would be 100 HRs in a season. Assuming Bonds only used Steroids for a few years, which is probable. The effect would be if you did the same for Ruth an Aaron would be totals well in excess of 1,000. Bonds would not have a chance at any of either's records.

Griffy suffered the same fate as Mantle. Both were well on pace to trash the HR records but both suffered devastating injuries. Both were center fielders as well.

So I think both Mantle and Griffy would have 700 + HRs. whether they could have kept up the torrid pace is a question. Griffy was a better hitter and actually hit more HRs when he was not trying to win HR crowns. I think Griffy hurt his HR total by trying so hard to hit them. Griffy and Mantle's stats are amazingly similer.

If Griffy and Mantle were to use steroids they'd still run afoul of injuries which likely would have kept them down to 700 HR range or might have ended thier careers even sooner as happened to Canseco and McGwire.

Answer 4

Yeah nobody would have even come close to Aaron and Ruth had they cheated. Ken Griffery Jr. has always been one my favorite players because of his beautiful swing and the way he plays the outfield going full tilt after everything. At the rate he was going at before injuries, right now he would have probably 650-700 homers. He is still probably going to hit a lot more homers before he retires and well on his way to Cooperstown!

Answer 5

I think if Griffey never got hurt, he would eventually pass Aaron, but not yet. He reached 400 before any other player in history, and only Alex Rodriguez has passed him since as youngest to hit 400.

Answer 6

we did the math at my job one day because we were bored, and griffey would have around 700 hr's by now, with another 3 or 4 years left to play, so yes, he would eventually become the homerun champ

Answer 7

he still would be chasing Hank but ahead of bonds

Answer 8

definatly, he would be the home run champ by the end of his carrer

Answer 9

yes, he'd of already caught him

Answer 10

I doubt it.