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why can't the nucleus be with neutrons and electrons and protons be revolving around them?....is the mass difference the only reason?....and if we provide an Emf to protons and make them move in ordered way will there be any flow of current?......

2006-07-04 03:59:13 · 7 answers · asked by becks 2 in Science & Mathematics Physics

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Well, see.. Ahh whom I kidding I haven't got a clue what the hell your talking about.

2006-07-04 04:02:47 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I would think that as we gain more understanding of the nature of quarks i.e. the particles that make up protons, neutrons and electrons, we will understand why there is an electron cloud and not a proton cloud. Or, it could just be random chance that the electrons of the early universe had more energy than protons did and they were the ones that ended up spinning around the slow moving laid back protons. Maybe the protons are just lazy and like talking amongst themselves (well if it isn't by itself in a hydrogen atom), "Look at all those peppy electrons. They really need to chill out."
I would have to research and read more about what happens when and EMF is applied to an atom if some sort of interaction with the protons creates a current.

2006-07-04 17:43:50 · answer #2 · answered by quntmphys238 6 · 0 0

Well, its not a daft question at all.

Firstly, remember that the atom does not obey the laws of Newtonian mechanics. They break down at this scale, and it is necessary to use quantum mechanics. So it is not at all fair to think of electrons as "flying around in orbits". The term has hung on though, and the behaviour around the nucleus is usually called an orbital, though this really refers to a cloud of probability of finding the electron.

So why is the atom as it is?

Well, first the proton is indeed far more massive than the electron, but that does not at all explain why it is protons and neutrons that bind to form a nucleus and electrons that form the orbitals.

The reason this happens is that the protons clump together to form the nucleus. Electrons do not do this at all.

So why do protons do this. Well, its because they interact via the strong nuclear force, while electrons do not. So although their positive charge pushes them apart, the strong nuclear force tries to glue them together.

But the strong nuclear force between protons is not enough on its own. Which is where neutrons come in. They also act via the strong nuclear force, so add to the pull, but do not interact via the electrostatic force, so do not add to the push.

Given that protons do clumpy things and electrons do not, it is natural to look at the atom from the point of view of the nucleus. You could equally do the math from the point of view of the electrons, but it would be way harder.

2006-07-04 11:31:29 · answer #3 · answered by Epidavros 4 · 0 0

Electrons carry far more consistent kinetic energy... relative to their size, anyways. Their natural state is to be moving non-stop. Since they always want to be moving, that's simply what they'll do.

I'd have to say that the extraordinarily small mass of an electron is the reason for this tendency, as it takes a small amount of kinetic energy to propel an electron a long ways, for a long time.

Being larger, both protons and neutrons are far less mobile, and by nature of their size, will be much slower.

To use arbitrary figures to illustrate: (for this example, the math isn't accurate, it's simply used to illustrate the relationships)
Lets say that Protons and Neutrons are softballs. For comparison, an electron is a golf ball. You take a baseball bat and smack the Proton. It makes it just past 2nd base. You smack the Neutron, it makes it just shy of second base. You smack the Golf Ball (electron), it goes past the outfield's fence.

The reason is this, You had a total of say, 10 pounds of force hit the 1 lb softball. That's 10 pounds spread across an object weighing 16 ounces. The softball recieved .625 pounds of force for each ounce it weighed (10lbs divided by 16oz). Your same 10 pounds of force smacked a 2 ounce golf ball. The golf ball recieved 5.0 pounds of force for each ounce. (10 lbs divided by 2 oz)

Ounce for ounce, the golf ball recieved more kinetic energy, and thus travels further.

Since an electron is smaller, if an atom recieves a 1 pound smack of kinetic energy, the protons and neutrons recieve a comparitively smaller kinetic charge than the electron.

Now that we've seen that electrons move faster, the neutrons and protons simply could not keep up with the electrons. The natural attraction of the components however, would prevent the electron from zipping away to another atom. Therefore, as the electron tries to zip away, it gets pulled back in towards the proton in an arc, which simply repeats to form an orbit.

2006-07-04 11:15:50 · answer #4 · answered by Cameron B 3 · 0 0

actually it is the law of the nature dat neutron n proton r in the nucleus while electrons rotate around it!

2006-07-04 11:07:25 · answer #5 · answered by harshad 1 · 0 0

neutrons have no charge.. so how are they going to keep the protons and electrons from flying away?.. their mass is not enough to hold them with gravity... it is the electrical force between protons and electrons that keep electrons in their orbits.

2006-07-04 11:03:48 · answer #6 · answered by ♥Tom♥ 6 · 0 0

i am not a scientist.. be warned!

i think that on earth you would have a more difficult time of trying to change the natural order of things as we know them to be...

all things are possible but not all things are probable

take for example the properties involved in making glass...
here on earth if you try to create glass you are limited to the fuel you use to give glass it's strength

yet when you change its environment and create glass in space you are more able to control the temperature of your fuel and thus create stronger glass, even to the extent of having glass be strong as steel....

everything is effected by it's environment, thus making anything possible... just not probable

2006-07-04 11:08:21 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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