For those of you who say Jesus is a god...?

Question

Gods don't die do they? I now resurrection blah blah blah, but a god can't die. The main attribute of ANY god is immortality but Jesus lacks it so do you really think he's a god?

Answer 1

Jesus was only one of many prophets, no more no less.

Answer 2

If gods can't die, then there are no gods and never have been any.

To answer your other question Yes. I believe Jesus is God: Not A God. THE God. Humans don't die and resurrect themselves. Neither did any other god, but Jesus Christ did.

And since God is God, He can die if He chooses. He said, "I lay down my life and I have power to pick it up again." And that's what He did. He also said, "I am He that liveth and was dead and behold I am alive forevermore...and have the keys of hell and of death." He stopped in the grave just long enough to get the keys to break the power of death. Pretty cool, huh?

Answer 3

My answer to your question is a simple yes. God is Triune. He is the Father, He is also the Son, and He is also the Spirit. Being the Father, He is the source of all things. He is omnipresent, meaning, He can be anywhere at any given time, and He is eternal meaning, He has no beginning and no end. He is also the Son, Christ Jesus is the manifestation of the father in the flesh. Meaning, He became human like us but without sin. Humans eventually die, and the death of the Lord Jesus is not because He is mortal. He may look human like us, but inside, He had the divine life which was immortal. His death caused His divine life to be released. When he died, He became the life-giving Spirit. Life after death doesn't mean that we will live our physical body again. No, life after death means that we will live our spiritual body. That is the part in us that is immortal. if you want to know more write me at: [e-mail].

Answer 4

No. Sin does not exist in the real world. Sin is "the disease invented by various religions so that they might sell you the cure." Sin has no meaning outside of religion. Only people who think there is sin can sin. Note though that sin and morality are different things, despite what you have been brainwashed into thinking. To sin is to disobey god and then condemn yourself for it. What if god told you to do something that was immoral? No, the cop-out of "God would never do that" will not work. Remember Abraham being told to sacrifice his son? On the whole, the sin claim is merely an assertion and not an argument.
may I ask why "Christians" center their life around the son of god? hell even your name is derived from his name you people take to much importance in his son you dont even care about the real god naybe Jesus was the antichrist who is making you people pay more attention to him than god oh and by the way why would god make his only son atone for our sins with blood? isnt he an all loving god?
The argument from morality says that without god, we cannot have a moral code and/or that we would simply be free to rape and kill and steal and/or since we have moral law, there must be a moral law giver. Many times, the person so stating it says "If there was no god, I would go around killing people, etc." That is an indictment of that person and not of humanity as a whole. If that person feels such, in no way does that translate to the whole of humanity having to feel that way. They also come to the problem of Euthyphro's Dilemma. Put simply: is something good because god says so, or does god say something is good because god can judge it good via an objective standard. In the former, morality is a subjective dynamic based upon the whim of the deity, where what was wrong today may not be wrong tomorrow, and in the latter there is no need of god to give us a moral code since there is an objective standard apart from god.
"The tomb is empty--it proves Jesus was resurrected and thus god!". Don't make me laugh. Show me peer-reviewed medical journals that say resurrection is possible and I might believe you. Plus, the "rolling the stone away" bit? Nuh-uh. Round stones on tombs were only for the wealthy until 70CE. 3 days? Did you know that the 3 days was actually for the family (Jewish custom) to come to the tomb every day for that length of time to make sure the person truly was dead? Has nothing to do with any prophecy of resurrection.. In fact, we learn in Origen Contra Celsus that there was a story going around at that time that the disciples had absconded with the body.

Why do the resurrection accounts differ greatly, i.e. who sees who where first, and where did Jesus go afterward and what did he say. Doesn't add up.
"Look at all the prophecies Jesus fulfilled. He must be the savior!" Oh really? Let's look at some common ones:

No, there is no virgin birth prophecy. Is 7:14 reads with "ha-almah", which means "young woman". "Bet'ulah" is the Hebrew term for virgin, and it is used later in Isaiah, so the author of Isaiah certainly knew the difference. Then there's Is 8:3, which has that child mentioned in Is 7:14 being born. Is 9:6 refers to that same child of Is 8:3.

Is 53 deals with Israel, not some savior.

Ps 22 does not read "pierced". "Ka-'ari" means "like a lion"

There is no prophecy of the savior being in the ground 3 days and coming back. Judaism in fact has no dying and rising savior story.

Look at Is 9:1-2 and then look at Matt 4:12-16. Notice something amiss? Yeah. The author of Matthew chopped part of Is 9:1 out. Talk about manufacturing a prophecy to fit your needs!

Micah 5:2 refers only to that the savior's lineage comes from Bethlehem, not that he would be born there. That is to say, the savior is of the Davidic line, and Jesus wasn't of the Davidic line!

Those are just some of the crap "prophecies". You're better off not trying the rest.

He was the savior/messiah? Really? Certainly not the Davidic messiah, which is the messiah spoken of in the old testament. Jesus is more of an Hellenistic messiah, not a jewish one.

According to the OT, the Davidic messiah will bring the earth the full knowledge of the lord (Is 11:9). That hasn't happened, so obviously Jesus wasn't the Davidic messiah.

What happened to Jesus before he was crucified? He was physically abused (Matt 27:26,29, Mk 15:15,17, Jn 19:1-2; 20:25). According to Paul, the circumcision that Jesus received was like "mutilation" (Phil 3:2). Lev 22:18-25 states that the blood-atonement sacrifice must be physically unblemished. Jesus therefore could not have been a valid sacrifice.

Lev 22:19 states that the sacrifice must of an animal, and Lev 11:26 states that any non-cloven hooved, non-cud chewing animal that has digits on its feet (e.g. toes) is unclean. Jesus, being a human, is unclean and unfit for sacrifice (Jesus was fully human in order to be killed). Ergo, Jesus could not have been a valid sacrifice.

Lev 16:18-19 says the sacrifice must be made in the temple and the blood must be spilled on the altar. Was Jesus killed in the temple and his blood spilled on the altar? No and no (no, calling his body the temple is not valid. It must be the real temple). Ergo, Jesus could not have been a valid sacrifice.

Jesus was killed by the Romans. According to Ex 29:9, only the line of Aaron are the priests, and only the priests may make the sacrifices. Ergo, Jesus could not have been a valid sacrifice.

Did Jesus die from bloodshed? No. Crucifixion kills by asphyxiation or shock. According to Lev 17:11, the sacrifice must die from blood loss (exsanguination). Ergo, Jesus was not a valid sacrifice.

What method was used to kill Jesus? Crucifixion. How is a valid sacrifice killed? Via "shechitah", which is:

"Ritual slaughter is known as shechitah, and the person who performs the slaughter is called a shochet, both from the Hebrew root Shin-Chet-Tav, meaning to destroy or kill. The method of slaughter is a quick, deep stroke across the throat with a perfectly sharp blade with no nicks or unevenness. This method is painless, causes unconsciousness within two seconds, and is widely recognized as the most humane method of slaughter possible. Another advantage of shechitah is that ensures rapid, complete draining of the blood, which is also necessary to render the meat kosher. The shochet is not simply a butcher; he must be a pious man, well-trained in Jewish law, particularly as it relates to kashrut. In smaller, more remote communities, the rabbi and the shochet were often the same person."
Kashrut: Jewish Dietary Laws

Was Jesus' blood given only for the jews? Nope. Not a valid sacrifice.

Did Jesus rebuild the temple and gather in the diaspora Nope. That's something the Davidic messiah should do, and Jesus didn't. Ergo, Jesus is not the Davidic messiah.

Research for this topic taken mostly from Jews For Judaism


im done here try to argue you cant win

Answer 5

How clear is the meaning of LORD God, Lord God, god and gods and lord and lords.

2Cor.4:3,4; Satan is the god of this world.
John 10:34-36; Jesus called them gods to whom the word of God came.
Isa.9:6,7; The LORD God of host is going to perform this, so in Heb,1:1-13; this is performed and The LORD God and Father John 20:17; has the Lord God the son in position to eliminate Satan the god of this world and and his angels Rev.12:1-7; Heb.2:9,14,16; Rev.20:1-6; the 1000 year reign of the one that has been given all power over heaven and earth will be.Matt.28:18-20;

Answer 6

No,gods don't die because they don't exist. God came to the earth manifested in the flesh therefore dying on the cross for mankind and resurrecting on the third day with all power in his hands! God only died once but He is a spirit that cannot die.

Answer 7

From the catechism:

Jesus Christ is true God and true man, in the unity of his divine person; for this reason he is the one and only mediator between God and men.

Christ, being true God and true man, has a human intellect and will, perfectly attuned and subject to his divine intellect and divine will, which he has in common with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

The Church thus confesses that Jesus is inseparably true God and true man. He is truly the Son of God who, without ceasing to be God and Lord, became a man and our brother.

The unique and altogether singular event of the Incarnation of the Son of God does not mean that Jesus Christ is part God and part man, nor does it imply that he is the result of a confused mixture of the divine and the human. He became truly man while remaining truly God. Jesus Christ is true God and true man.

During the first centuries, the Church had to defend and clarify this truth of faith against the heresies that falsified it.

The humanity of Christ could authentically experience death.

The divinity of Christ remains eternally alive and glorious, in union with the Father and the Holy Spirit.

Answer 8

Ok... get the facts straight. God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit make up the trinity. They are all one, but they are still seperate. (Don't try to understand it, I think we have very simple minds that can't comprehend). God didn't die. He wasn't even on the cross.... Jesus died. God turned away and Jesus died on the cross, but he came back to life. If a human "dies" then comes back (which I've heard has happened) you don't say that human is dead. They are alive. Jesus is alive, always has been, and always will be.

Answer 9

Jesus Christ came from heaven as God in the flesh. As scripture says "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us." (John 1:14). On earth, Jesus was constrained to the physical laws of the Earth as you and I are as physical bodies. Although Christ in the flesh was crucified and undertook a horrible death, Christ's body rose and was given a glorified body as 1 Corinthians 15 talks about. Jesus's risen (glorified) body was resurrected and He walked again in the midst of his disciples. Christ in the flesh was able to see death, but still remains today in Heaven as part of the triune God (Father, Son, and Holy Sprit) just as it was in the beginning of time. God is immortal, but Christ's death was a necessary sacrifice to atone for the sins of the world so that we may be forgiven and given a new life that follows Christ's example.

Answer 10

In the Kings James bible it teaches, and tells us that God eternally,equally, and essentially exists as three persons the father, the son , and the holy ghost. This is known as the doctrine of the trinity- there is one God, but three persons in the God head. When we go to heaven we can ask God why things were and are they way they are.

Answer 11

Here is what you REALLY need to know.......



Think of it this way... Imagine you're in a courtroom, you're guilty of many serious crimes. The judge says, "It's a fine of $500,000, or prison." You don't have anywhere near that amount of money, so the bailiff begins to walk you out of the courtroom when someone you don't even know appears. He runs up to the judge with a check and says, "I've paid the fine for you." Now that the fine has been paid, the law no longer has any hold on you. You're free -- because of the gift you were given.
This is what God did for you by sending Jesus to die on the cross in your place. So that you wouldn't have to go to Hell, God sent his only Son, Jesus, to die on the cross -- suffering the punishment that justice demands. Then He rose from the grave, forever defeating death! The Bible tells us, "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him, shall not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16) If you will repent of your sins and put your trust in Jesus, God says he will forgive all your sins and grant you the gift of everlasting life. Just like the court case we just talked about, if you repent (that means to confess and forsake your sins) and put your trust in Jesus, then you will not have to suffer God's justice in Hell because the payment for your crimes was made by Jesus on the cross.
If you're not sure what to pray, read Psalm 51, and make it a model for your prayer. The words are not "magical," what God cares about is the attitude of your heart. When you pray, it should sound something like this, "Dear God, I repent of all my sins, such as (name them). I put my trust in Jesus Christ as Lord (to say Jesus is your Lord means you are now making Jesus the master over your life) and Savior. Forgive me and grant me your gift of everlasting life. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen."
Now read your Bible daily, and obey what you read. God will never let you down.
What should you read? We suggest that you start in the book named "John," and then read the one named "Romans." Whatever you decide to read, make sure you read every day.