Does anybody else here know that Bill W. of AA fame was an adulterer and an acid-head???

Question

(pssst! It's documented!!!)

Documented in most legitimate biographies. Google the name "Carolyn See" or "Wynn Corum" (Carolyn's mom) if you want to find out about the adultery; also check out www.orange-papers.org if you want to know the entire history of AA and it's fluky predessor, the Oxford Movement.

Answer 1

I knew he experimented with LSD under the care of Dr. Leary. Bill struggled with his alcoholism for many years even after he stopped drinking and he was always looking for some way to combat the depression which was part of his life. As far as being an adulterer I do know that he always said that extreme drunkenness kept him out of trouble with women, so I assume that he would have cheated on his wife if he'd been able to. Perhaps he did after he got sober but I have never read it. Quitting drinking doesn't make an angel out of anyone. It simply prolongs life and makes it a better quality if one follows the principles of the program.

Answer 2

Yes, I've heard these things about old Billy boy. It is amazing that he is idolized by everyone in AA and they haven't even gone to the trouble to check up on him, of course that's what people in AA do, follow blindly.It's a shame really, all the hours lost, drinking sorry coffee and blowing smoke up each others anuses that could have been spent with families and real friends.

I think that since Dr. Bob ,Bills partner in crime, was a proctologist it is very likely that the program was literally 'pulled out of Bills rectum', only a proctologist could have performed such a feat.This idea is further confirmed by that fact that the program stinks and gets 'crappy' results. I am amazed that such a rotten seed bore so much rotten fruit but what can you expect out of something that was born out of a butt-hole.

Answer 3

Actually, yes, I knew that! He did all that after he did one of his worst tricks - devising and founding a religious cult (AA), based on the Oxford Group, which he audiciously and insidiously claimed was "spiritual, not religious." Of course that absurd claim has been debunked, by the courts, and anyone who has looked at the 12 steps with an "open mind," since the 12 steps are clearly religious to any sane and sober person.

Answer 4

He also:
- dabbled in the occult
- wrote the chapter "To Wifes" pretending to be Lois, telling them not to nag or question their husbands or they would drink again
- had to be chaperoned by AA members in order to keep his 13th stepping quiet
- left his favorite mistress 10% of his estate
- stole the copyright of the big book
- stole much of the Big Book from Peabody's "Common Sense of Drinking" which came out a few years earlier.
http://aabibliography.com/common_sense_of_drinking.htm (Peabody and Bill were stationed together in the service.)
- wrote of "The First Hundred Men" who got sober in AA at a time when less than half that number had stayed sober
- lied about the percentage of failures in the early days (admitted in "Pass It On")
- laid on his deathbed begging for a drink

...all AFTER he got sober.

These are just the ones I came up with off the top of my head. There are more.

Yes, this is the man I want dictating my moral code.

Answer 5

Sure, and his original "spiritual experience" was influenced by the hallucinogenic belladonna treatment. Google Orange Papers. "Pass It On" documents his lsd use. Proceeds from the sale of the Bigbook go to his mistress; a well-known fact.

Answer 6

I didn't know that but it doesn't surprise me. Who else would have so poignantly recognized the need for a place where people who have a past but are trying to get beyond it could come, bear their souls, and yet leave feeling inspired, supported, and encouraged in believing they could make it one more day.

Answer 7

I had no idea. Where's it documented?