Timothy McVay, Oklahoma Federal Bldg Bomber (Terrorist) That boy was a Christian, wasn't he?

Answer 1

Timmy was a young man who risked his life to defend this country. Only to come back & watch our government murder innocent people (Waco & Ruby Ridge). Is it really any wonder than he was driven over the edge? To think he defended a goverment that would do such a thing! Yes, 2 wrongs don't make a right. But the media & the public missed the point!
I don't think he did his homework well. I think he'd have picked a better target if he'd have known about the day care. But a little known fact, more children died at Waco than in OK city! David Keresh was not wanted for murder, but many innocent people died. The family at Ruby Ridge were not terrorists, simply mountain folk who liked to hunt.
Were the children at Waco any less innocent than the ones in OK City, I think not! Only the mothers who offered their 13 year old daughters to their "messiah" as sex toys were guilty! And the petifial himself!
But wait! Was Janet Reno a christian? How about all the ATF agents? The FBI agents? The Branch Dividian? The family at Ruby Ridge? Does it really matter? We have people killing their brothers & sisters, government killing it's own people. We have a big problem in the world today!
Attaboy! Keep 'em thinkin' my brother!
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Blessed Be...

Answer 2

Timothy McVay was a Christian..." Yes, but no one would ever claim he was a member of a reconized Christian sect or denomination. He was a lone terrorist who also happened to be Christian. That the entire faith denounces his actions also speaks to the fact that he was practicing a twisted version of the faith.

Answer 3

Don't know. If he was, then he didn't understand what it means to be a Christian. There are good and bad people and in all religions. There are no absolutes in Christianity, except God. You learn about McVay, and what should never had happened, and Pray that it does not happen again.

Answer 4

Yes sure was.

Real Christians

One of the most frustrating aspects of conversing with Christians has to do with the definition of the term Christian itself. It's easy for anyone to point the finger at the history of Christianity and show its atrocities…the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Nazis… But it is equally easy for someone else to say, "They weren't True Christians™."

Now just what do you say to that? (If you're smart, you say nothing and walk away. But I'm not always smart.)

It seems that every Christian has their own definition of what it means to be a Christian. Silly me, I always thought a Christian was one who worshipped Jesus Christ as his/her savior. But to listen to some people, there's far more to it than that. Now, they can't come to an agreement on what those things might be, but they all insist that anyone who doesn't fit their special little definition isn't a Christian. The bible itself isn't clear on the subject, either. But then, the bible is full of contradictory passages, so this should be no surprise.

Some examples of the modern Christian's perspectives... I know of no Christian who accepts that Hitler and the Nazis could possibly have been Christian, despite Hitler's many speeches and writings, despite his words to friends, and despite the vocal beliefs of many of his followers. Similarly, groups like the KKK "aren't Christian," either, even though they constantly refer to Jesus. Catholics? No, they're not True Christians™, according to many Protestants. And vice versa.

I've been told that the behaviors of some "supposed" Christians aren't in keeping with the Scriptures, which teach forgiveness, love, and kindness, blah blah blah…

Well, the thing is, some biblical writings do teach such behavior. However, the "good book" is also full of actual examples of the opposite, and from "godly" men, too. Overall, it's a situation of "do as I say, not as I do." And we all know how well that works.

If one were to approach someone described as not being a "real" Christian, they'd insist that they are as "real" as they come. And in their minds, they probably are. So what point is really made by saying they aren't? It's simply a way to dismiss them, to write them off as being pretenders. But that doesn't change the fact that they are, whether one likes it or not, a representative of their professed beliefs. They may not be representative of the best aspects of said belief, but few people are, no matter the beliefs.

To my way of thinking, if you call yourself a Christian, and believe yourself to be a Christian, then it doesn't matter a bit if others think you're Christian or not. It's just a situation of some Christians not wanting to accept that Christians can be scum, just like anyone else.

Answer 5

I don't know if Timothy McVay was a Christian. A lot of people claim to be "christians" but have no real relationship with Christ.

Answer 6

Many people say they are Christian but there actions say otherwise. Unfortunately, this has been adopted by many right wing radical groups and the two have nothing to do with each other.

Christ told us the greatest commandment was to 'love thy neighbor as ourselves' and yet these groups show intolerance and hate, quite the opposite of what Christ taught.

I don't doubt he claimed to be Christian, that however, isn't the reality, a Christian doesn't bomb innocent people nor do we resort to any kind of violence. Remember, Christ rebuked Peter when he chopped off the ear of a roman soldier, telling him that violence was not the message he came to preach. I hope this clears it up for you.

Answer 7

If He was a true Christian child of God He would trust & obey Jesus Christ. Not everybody who hears God's Salvation plan by grace will accept it. They reject it. Mr. McVay was one of them that Rejected God's Salvation grace. Those that reject it but had a taste of the power of God, can do some really horrible things. An example would be the green river killer, or any serial killer.

He judged people self-righteously, then murdered. He is a terrorists. He was, at the time of the bombing, a sinner needing a Savior. I don't know if He has since repented, and Jesus blood has covered His sins. He did what He did by self-righteousness & He did not believe on Jesus saving grace.

You know a tree by it's fruit.

Also, it is impossible for a born again Christian to abide in that sin mentality. Read 1st, 2nd,3rd,4th & 5th John.

A sinner needing a Savior is not a Christian. Person is in pre-salvation state. Once one has confessed Jesus Christ Lord of person's life, and believed in heart/ faith that He died on the cross for ones sins and rose from the dead, will be saved. This confession & believing in heart, is when one is a born again Christian.

My Lord loves His book. It is proven the most accurately transcribed book ever. That is because God loves us and has given us His Truth. The Spirit of Truth is not a liar and leads into all truth. He loves the bible.


Added later: When people hear of God's Salvation Plan by grace through faith in Him, they sometimes reject it. They think people have to be good enouph. They get critical and judgmental of others who they judge as sinful/ evil. Timothy McVeigh thought the government was evil. It was His own self-righteous judgment of others that led Him to be this evil.

Kyle Huff , who judged the Rave scene teenagers did the same thing, only He killed Himself too.

Islam Jihadist do the same thing, because they reject God's free gift of salvation, through faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God. They judge others for not going by Islamic law. They judge USA & Israel & people of any other religion. They may even judge stricter on their own muslim people because they may be confused by the Koran & doubt or not be a good enouph muslim or believe on Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Of course, that could mean the death sentence.

There is no doubt in my mind -- any terrorist is not a born again Christian. Praying in the Spirit to my God, My Lord God confirms terrorists are not Christians.

Answer 8

Oh yeah. He was really super Christian.

There is a verse in the Bible where Christ says to his disciples, my kingdom is not of this world, if it were my servant would fight.

There is also a verse that says love your neighbor as you love yourself.

Clearly Timothy McVeigh was putting these things into practice.

You know, I can say I work at Taco Bell. But if I actually work at Wendy's doesn't that mean I am an idiot. If you think me saying that I work at Taco Bell when I actually don't work at Taco Bell somehow even possibly means that I actually do work at Taco Bell, then you are an idiot as well.

Use your brain, and not your prejudices or your private little agenda to draw conclusions about people and their claims and their actions, etc. etc. etc.

Answer 9

OK, people. You have just proved that you know just as much about Christianity as the rest of the 30 million Christians out there who don't go to church or even read their bible. Most of those who claim they are Christian say it because someone in their bloodline said they were. They have no clue what it really means.

Just because I say I am Polish doesn't make me Polish. It is the practice of the beliefs in my everyday life that makes me a "believer". If I don't practice what I say I believe, then I don't really believe do I?

Answer 10

I am Bigfoot. People can claim what ever they want to doesn't mean they are. Besides what does that claim have to do with the price of tea in China? in other words what effect does that have on his actions. Most people don't truly know what a Christian is. If he did would he have done what he did. I believe not.