Song of Songs 8:1-3 "If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me. I would lead you and bring you to my mother's house-- she who has taught me. I would give you spiced wine to drink [i.e., her vagina's semen!], the nectar of my pomegranates. His left arm is under my head and his right arm embraces me."
She wished if he was her brother so that she wouldn't have to take him home in secret. Now if he was truly her husband, then what would prompt her to wish that he was her brother? Were husbands back then not allowed to live with their wives? If so, how did they then consummate and have children and raise generations and societies? Were they allowed to live with each others for a while?
The obvious answer, that only the ashamed people from the Jews and Christians would deny, is that the "lover" was NOT her husband, and she was not his wife.
Further more, according to "Sex in the Bible" documentary film, the two were "a maiden (virgin) and her lover" and not husband and wife. Listen to this for yourself.
"maiden" means virgin; an unmarried woman; a single girl, etc...
From http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=maiden%20:
maid·en
n.
An unmarried girl or woman.
A virgin.
A machine resembling the guillotine, used in Scotland in the 16th and 17th centuries to behead criminals.
Sports.
A racehorse that has never won a race.
A maiden over.
The bottom line is:
The graphical pornography in the gospel of porn (the bible) is quite devastating and unjustifiable. The book's followers have to literally resort to lying in order to minimize the moral damage and denigration that this corrupt book teaches and causes.
2- Women's breasts are important sexual objects:
The Bible in numerous places teaches us about women's breasts and talks about them at the same time it is talking about sexual fantasies and intercourse.
Comparing the sister's breasts to the size of the towers: Let us look at the following verses: "We have a young sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister for the day she is spoken for? (Song of Songs 8:8)" and later about the sister....."I am a wall, and my breasts are like towers. Thus I have become in his eyes like one bringing contentment. (Song of Songs 8:10)"
Let us look at Song of Songs 4:5 "Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."
Let us look at Song of Songs 1:13 "My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts."
Praising the bed that they had sex on: Let us look at Song of Songs 1:16 "How handsome you are, my lover! Oh, how charming! And our bed is verdant"
Let us look at Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you! Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you; we will praise your love (i.e., semen) more than wine. How right they are to adore you!" I don't think this would be appropriate for a kid under 18 to read. Also, I don't think it is appropriate to have such open sexuality in a divine book anyway.
His right arm sexually feeling her body: Let us look at Song of Songs 2:6 "His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me."
Let us look at Song of Songs 3:4 "Scarcely had I passed them when I found the one my heart loves. I held him and would not let him go till I had brought him to my mother's house, to the room of the one who conceived me." So in other words, she was not married to him, and when she found him, she took him back to her bed room to have illegal sex with him? If she were married to him, she wouldn't take him to her "mother's house". She would take him to their house.
Let us look at Song of Songs 3:10 "Its posts he made of silver, its base of gold. Its seat was upholstered with purple, its interior lovingly inlaid by the daughters of Jerusalem." Why does the Bible teach young men to spend all of their time and effort to try to impress all of the girls in their town so they can possibly end in bed with them?
3- Fantasizing about a girl he calls his "sister". Her vagina tastes like wine for him. And they had sex all night long. After he satisfied her really good, she wished if he were her brother (her biological brother nursed by her "mother's breast" as she said) so she doesn't have to take him home secretly:
Note: Even though she may not be his biological sister, but calling her a "sister" in a pornographic and sick situation as shown in details below is not proper, and may suggest that the sick pervert would fantasize about his biological sister if he had one.
Let us look at Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace." Fantasizing about his sister? at least he shows in this verse that he would!.
Let us look at Song of Songs 4:10 "How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!" Making love to his own sister? "pleasing is your love (making???) than wine"?
Let us look at Song of Songs 4:12 "You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain."
Sleeping with his sister: Let us look at Song of Songs 5:4 "I slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew, my hair with the dampness of the night.' I have taken off my robe (i.e., he showed his penis to her. Underwears didn't exist back then!) must I put it on again? I have washed my feet, must I soil them again? My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening; my heart began to pound for him." What a disgusting way for someone to talk so pervertly about his sister like that!!.
Let us look at Song of Songs 5:8 "O daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you find my lover, what will you tell him? Tell him I am faint with love." Teaching women to be sexually too open.
His sister's vagina tastes like "wine":
"How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands. Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine. Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies. Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.
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I said 'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.' May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. (The NIV Bible, Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)"
According to the documentary film "Sex in the Bible" on A&E TV Station, the Hebrew translation to "Your naval" is referring to the woman's VAGINA. This was sent to me by my dear brother in Islam Mike who embraced Islam just recently; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
2006-07-02 15:34:58
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answered by Salafy In the City 1
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answered by Shelby 3
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X Rated Pornography
2016-11-07 09:11:03
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answered by procter 4
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Way to go Salafy in the city. Can't answer better then that.
However, you are making a grave error in translating it word for word.
Like in many language, meaning of words change over time. That is why scientist use dead language latin. You are translating words by todays standards, not the standards of what they were when they were wrote. Also, words may have several different meaning.
But i do agree that they are lovers, not husband and wife.
Adultery is a sin that man made up because they were tired of losing their wives to different man. . . I highly doubt it was one of god's original rules.
2006-07-02 15:53:08
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answered by Ryujin 2
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1) No; I don't think it's immoral. 2) As long as everybody concerned is an adult acting of their own free will, I don't think it's immoral; I wouldn't want to do it, but it's not my job to tell other people what to do. 3) Are they "sinners"? Unless they're Jewish or Noachide, they're not breaking any commandments. 4) Will they be accepted into heaven? I have no idea; I'm not God, and it's not my job to decide (if, indeed, there IS a heaven, which is far from clear). The only thing I think is "immoral" is people who are trying to make something that's natural into something dirty because they're too small-minded to look at themselves honestly. And that doesn't make them "sinners;" it just makes them jerks.
2016-03-27 01:51:30
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answered by Anonymous
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Put your money where your mouth is.
You blow smoke out of your mouth like its your rear end, it really stinks.
Prove that the bible has been altered.
Where are the transitional copies?
What a parrot you are!
You darken counsel without knowledge!!
The quran is a bunch of baloney made up by Muhammed who put his 54 year old penis into a 9 year old girl!
http://www.geocities.com/AntiJihad/mo_pedo.html
That makes him and all who believe in him way less than credible
2006-07-02 16:23:31
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answered by Anonymous
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again you've taken from what the words say, and translated them into what you wish or what you want them to say. Brother and Sister are referenced as an unwed couple.
Quit warping something sweet and sensual as something like this. God never underminded sex..... just said that it was not something that people before marriage should do.
2006-07-02 15:50:12
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answered by MissT 3
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I don't think the pornography in Song of Songs is X-rated. I haven't found a money shot yet...
2006-07-02 15:36:50
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answered by Anonymous
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Some very conservative sects do not allow young children to read the song of songs because of it's "graphic" nature. God created sex why can't he tell us it's proper use?
"sister" refers to a woman who is not yet his wife btw
2006-07-02 15:36:11
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answered by jaemers24 3
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Although it is not the convo between husband and wife, i do believe this is a sacred passage. This lust is in the minds of everyone of us. It is not vulgar in content, but natural in essence. The churches of this world often deny our and their natural sins.
2006-07-02 15:50:01
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answered by Reality Check 2
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Stand before God and speak for yourself, but take note, you will be judged by every word that proceeded from your mouth.
2006-07-02 15:37:04
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answered by CEM 5
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