I mean they have also discovered the battlefied at Troy, but I don't see people holding up the Iliad and saying " See there's facts, it must be the truth in here." This clinging to straws really makes the whole idea of your religion seem kind of pathetic.
2006-07-02 09:49:45 · 22 answers · asked by bc_munkee 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
This is a technique common by people who try to prove points by using logical fallacies. The fallacy you identify is called "Correlation implies causation". It is a common one.
Logical fallacies look good on the surface most times, but they more commonly disprove a point if you can see through it.
But this doesn't matter, because most of the American public has little experience and knowledge in critical thinking. You'll find the most skillful employers of logical fallacies know this, and exploit it when ever they open their mouths.
2006-07-02 10:03:41 · answer #1 · answered by Jack Meoff 4 · 6⤊ 6⤋
I think there are two questions here:
1. Why are non-Christians never satisfied with the facts?
People will always look for errors so they can confirm their disbelief: they are scared that there might actually be truth in the claims of Jesus. On a side note, if there were enough facts to conclusively prove that God existed then there would be no free will -- people couldn't choose to follow God or not which is the freedom God has lovingly chosen to give us.
2. Do Christians need factual proof?
If Jesus did not actually live as a real walking-talking man, die and rise again then Christianity is a scam. Believe it or not this is in scripture: "if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith." (1 Corinthians 15:14)
2006-07-02 17:17:43 · answer #2 · answered by Pete 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Acutually, that is how they test ANY older document for truth. They look for historical accuracy, archeological truth and people that really did exist at that time to make sure a document is not faked.
Interestingly, so far, the Bible is the most accurate historically-- in terms of people who really lived and events that did happen. Whether you believe it has divine inspiration is up to you.
2006-07-02 16:54:54 · answer #3 · answered by Lisa the Pooh 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Since when did facts not constitute proof. If the facts, according to history, concerning time, places, and people, coincides with bible teachings and occurences, and adds either proof of, or the possibility of proof...
How is that pathetic, isnt that just the way it is done.
2006-07-02 17:10:12 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
i was gonna say clinging to straws ,but you already did
hate it when people already answer their own questions ,but you don't know until you open them
but whatever --desperation for confirmation makes people use anything they can ,
probably mainly to convince themselves .
to be wrong would mean that they may have been wrong all their lives ,and this would be unacceptable.
And the bible is in reality a brainwashing tool designed to keep the people in the dark to prevent them from knowing the truth and to make them open to manipulation.
for 6000 years already ,by the Illuminati
.who were the descendants of the Anunaki,who was known as the creator ,and who created the Adams race(not one man but a whole race)to mine gold for them
for Christians to become aware that their God was not a God ,and that they were originally created to be slaves ,to help an Extraterrestrial steal gold,would destroy their sanity.
lucky for them ,the brainwashing's include keys ,to make them disbelieve what i have just said
2006-07-02 17:03:43 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
That is a REALLY good question.
And you're right about the clinging to straws and it's right what the other person said about what "faith" really means. I think it just gives believers more strength to continue the faith, when there is so much out there to contradict it.
But really, it doesn't prove anything.....
2006-07-02 16:55:53 · answer #6 · answered by melby 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
They are simply insecure Christians.
There is no proof. Rather to the contrary. Jesus was supposed to be a big thorn in the side of the Romans yet there is not one mention of him in the roman records!
Simple answer. Christianity is a faith and belief. If proof existed it would not be. Therefore Christians who seek to give proof are showing the weakness of their own faith!!! They are bad Christians!!
2006-07-02 17:06:18 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Becasue if they did not then they would know what we know....that they do not have any evidence at all. It is one of the last stands against an ever changing world that no longer needs religion. They also tout that they have faith, which means that they do not need evidence, but since they do they are not so faithful as they think.
2006-07-02 18:26:56 · answer #8 · answered by tisbedashit 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think that most non-christians are constantly asking "Where is the proof", "show me proof". So Christians show them. They find the arc - and say "Here is proof of Noah", they find Roman documentation proving the crucifiction of Jesus Christ and the empty tomb, and the record of sighting of him after his death, and they say "Here is the proof of Jesus' resurection". In truth, they want you to see your way to salvation. They aren't clinging to straws - they already have faith. They are simply trying to use your measure of truth to show you theirs.
2006-07-02 16:56:12 · answer #9 · answered by iahp_mom 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
For God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, so that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
2006-07-02 16:53:21 · answer #10 · answered by Jimmy Pete 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Personally I find this all sort of ironic.
Faith is the strong belief of something without proof. So essentially, the more proof someone gets, the less faith they have. (Which is why no one has faith in evolution).
2006-07-02 16:53:10 · answer #11 · answered by LZ1980 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋