what is the arguement catholic church has against Jesus having a bloodline. Would YOU mind if he had one?

Answer 1

Bible presents specific evidence concerning the identities of the Antichrist and False Prophet, the Mark of the Beast, Mystery Babylon the Great and other entities that will be imperative for God’s elect to recognize during the Tribulation Period. For instance, Revelation 13:1, which identifies the Antichrist as “the beast that rises out of the sea,” becomes crystal clear upon discovery that a demonic bloodline that exists today that was originally sired by a mysterious “sea beast”—the Bistea Neptunis. Merovingian authors like Laurence Gardner inform their readers about the demonic bloodline of the Bistea Neptunis in New Age books such as Bloodline of the Holy Grail:
“It was the Arcadian legacy that was responsible for the the mysterious sea beast - the Bistea Neptunis - as symbolically defined in the Merovingian ancestry. The relevant sea-lord was King Pallas, a god of old Arcadia. His predecessor was the great Oceanus. The immortal sea-lord was said to be ‘ever-incarnate in a dynasty of ancient kings’ whose symbol was a fish...” (p. 175)
This demonic creature was Neptune, the mythological god of the sea who is said to have founded Atlantis, which is the pagan version of the pre-flood civilization which God judged in Genesis 7. Genesis 6:1-4 describes the intermarriage of mankind with demons:
“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”
It is possible that the cursed seed of the serpent continued after the Deluge through Noah’s son Ham. (Gen. 9:25) Gardner and other Merovingian authors claim there is a living descendant of this demonic bloodline who will one day rule over a revived Atlantis. If the Bistea Neptunis is “ever-incarnate in a dynasty of ancient kings,” who is the living descendant of this Beast? The high cabal of the Merovingians is the Prieuré de Sion in Paris which directs all other secret societies worldwide. Yet the Grand Master of the Prieuré de Sion remains largely unknown, except to New Agers whose network of secret societies functions as an occult underground. This most powerful individual on earth is well-hidden from the masses until the time appointed when, as the Scripture foretells, “that man of sin shall be revealed.” (II Thess. 2:3) New Agers already know the identity of the False Christ, the False Prophet and various other Tribulation counterfeits through their study of astrology, as interpreted by a large body of occult tradition and the current propaganda proliferating through New Age publications. There is no reason that Christians, given the same information available to New Agers, and aided by a right understanding of Bible prophecy, cannot discern and rightly interpret this end-time enigma. The alternative is to be at the mercy of a massive disinformation campaign that is being conducted within the Christian community by the same New Age network which is planning the destruction of Christianity and return of mankind to paganism. During the first century A.D., Alexandria, Egypt was a veritable hotbed of mystical activity, a crucible in which, according to Holy Blood, Holy Grail, "Judaic, Mithraic, Zoroastrian, Pythagorean, Hermetic, and neo-Platonic doctrines suffused the air and combined with innumerable others." (31:123) It was in the early centuries of the Christian era that the ancient worship of the Mother Goddess was introduced to Christianity by Jews who had fled Israel and embraced Alexandrian Neo-Platonism, which is just a rehash of Greek paganism. "The Neo-Platonists are Greek philosophers who lived long enough after Plato to have lost the name of Platonists as far as modern scholars are concerned (although they were intellectual disciples of Plato and considered themselves Platonists)." (942:72) In ancient times, mankind worshipped the hosts of heaven, believing them to be gods and goddesses who ruled the world. Ancient man believed that the constellation Virgo was the Great Mother Goddess who ruled over a Golden Age called Lemuria, which preceded Atlantis. This astrological tradition was transmitted to successive pagan cultures through the ages of mankind. "Some of the mythological representations of Virgo are Nana, Eve, Istar, Demeter, Hecate, Themis, Hera, Astraea, Diana, Cybele, Isis, Fortuna, Erigone, Sibylla and the Virgin Mother. All representations of the Great Mother in some form. She who existed before the masculine gods of ancient and classical mythology." (Stories of the Constellations: The Legend of Virgo: 905)
The Greek adaptation of Virgo, was Demeter, whose daughter Kore was abducted by Pluto, the god of the underworld. Kore would remain the dark lord's queen and her name would no longer be Kore, the maiden, but Persephone, "she who is to be feared". The Alexandrian Jews who worshipped the Greek goddess, Kore, managed to convert their pagan goddess worship into a theologically respectable tradition called Gnosticism by giving the goddess the trappings of Christianity. Although they worshipped her as the Holy Virgin, "virginity" has an altogether different connotation to Gnostics than it does to Christians.
"Another important feature of the Gnostic tradition of Epiphany is that it is really a feminine holiday. St. Clement of Alexandria (c. 194) mentioned that the followers of the Gnostic master Basilides feasted on the day of the Baptism and kept a long vigil before it. Epiphanius (305-402) gave us a detailed description of how the Alexandrian Gnostics celebrated the Epiphany. They did this in the sanctuary of the Maiden Goddess Kore whom they equated with the image of the Holy Virgin. At midnight they descended with torches into the crypt of the temple and brought the wooden statue of Kore forth in procession. The Maiden was represented naked and sitting, with crosses marked on her brow, her hands and her knees. The statue was carried seven times around the central shrine and was then retired to the crypt once more. The Gnostics said that on this day, Kore, the Virgin, gave birth to the divine principle known as the Christ. It is from the feminine intuitive consciousness and feeling nature that the messianic power, of individuated consciousness is born. Thus the human nature of Jesus or Everyman is transformed into divine and spiritual nature by the holy female power, the Holy Spirit, in the initiation rite of baptism." (Gnostic Liturgical Calendar: 834)
It is important to note that the heretic, Basilides, was an Gnostic Jew of Alexandria, as was his contemporary, the arch heretic Valentinus.
It was in the Gnostic culture of Alexandria that the Mother Goddess evolved into Mary Magdalene. Ean Begg wrote in The Cult of the Black Virgin that "...many of the finest Gnostic writings are of Alexandrian inspiration or origin. Alexandria is also the main source of Gnostic works linking Jesus with Mary Magdalene. According to this tradition it was through the Magdalen, rather than through Peter and the male apostles, that Jesus transmitted his secret doctrine." (272:128) In their endeavors to relocate the center of Christianity in Alexandria, Egypt, the Gnostics misrepresent Mary Magdalene as a native of the Magdolum in Egypt, which they associate with Migdol:
"There is no necessity to endeavor to crowbar [Mary Magdalene] into a Galilean setting, for there are other intriguing alternatives for her place of origin: although there was no ‘Magdala’ in Judea in her day, there was a Magdolum in Egypt - just across the border - which was probably the Migdol mentioned in Ezekiel. There was a large and flourishing Jewish community in Egypt at that time, which was particularly centered on the great sea port of Alexandria, a seething cosmopolitan melting pot of many races, nationalities and religions and perhaps where the Holy Family had fled to escape the depredations of Herod’s men." (Mary Magdalene Files: 843)
There is no mention of Migdol in the book of Ezekiel, however the prophet Jeremiah reproved the apostate Jews who took up residence in Migdol, in Egypt, for disobeying the Lord who had commanded them to go with their countrymen to Babylon. The prophet Jeremiah specifically admonished the Jews in Egypt for their worship of the Mother Goddess:
The word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the Jews which dwell in the land of Egypt, which dwell at Migdol, and at Tahpanhes, and at Noph, and in the country of Pathros, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, and upon all the cities of Judah; and, behold, this day they are a desolation, and no man dwelleth therein, Because of their wickedness which they have committed to provoke me to anger, in that they went to burn incense, and to serve other gods, whom they knew not, neither they, ye, nor your fathers...
Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying, As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men? - Jer. 44:1-3,15-19
Here it is apparent that the worship of the Mother Goddess, Virgo, under the appellation of Isis, spread from Egypt into Israel and from Israel to the centers of the Roman Empire:
"The cult of Isis was widespread in the Egypt of the dynastic period. From Egypt it spread northwards to Phoenicia, Syria and Palestine; to Asia Minor; to Cyprus, Rhodes, Crete, Samos and other islands in the Aegean; to many parts of mainland Greece - Corinth, Argos and Thessaly amongst them; to Malta and Sicily; and, finally, to Rome. In the first century BC, Isis was perhaps the most popular goddess in the Eternal City, from which her cult spread to the furthest limits of the Roman Empire, including Britain: her only rival was Mithras. - (Star Lore: 920)
In fact, the worship of the Virgin Mary in the Roman Catholic Church, along with the entire body of Catholic tradition, can be traced to the worship of Isis in Egypt. {See: Mystery Babylon the Great: Catholic or Jewish?}
"Immaculate is our Lady Isis...the very terms applied afterwards to that personage (the Virgin Mary) who succeeded to her form, titles, symbols, rites, and ceremonies... Thus, her devotees carried into the new priesthood the former badges of their profession, the obligation to celibacy, the tonsure, and the surplice, omitting, unfortunately, the frequent ablutions prescribed by the ancient creed. The 'Black Virgins', so highly reverenced in certain French cathedrals...proved, when at last critically examined, basalt figures of Isis!'" (Isis, the Black Virgin: 921)
In 412 A.D., Cyril of Alexandria became the Bishop of Alexandria. In Isis Unveiled, H.P. Blavatsky wrote: "...Cyril, the Bishop of Alexandria, had openly embraced the cause of Isis, the Egyptian goddess, and had anthropomorphized her into Mary, the mother of God..." (195:41, Vol.II) During his bishopric, Cyril wrote passionately and voluminously against the Nestorian heresy, and was largely instrumental in having it condemned at the Council of Ephesus in 431.
The Third Ecumenical Council was held at Ephesus in Greece, whose philosophy and culture were, like Egypt, derived from the occult traditions of the pre-Flood civilization. The Council of Ephesus condemned the Nestorian heresy but approved the veneration of the Virgin Mary as "Theotokos" ---the God-Bearer or Mother of God. Nestorius and the Nestorians were exiled to the Persian Empire and become the Assyrian Orthodox Church of the East. However, in what appears to have been a classic dialectical operation, the path had been cleared for Mary to be transformed from the "Mother of God" to a deity in the image of the Mother Goddess, Isis, who shared in the divinity of her son, Horus.
In her article on Mariology, Keri Mills posited that the issue driving the great Nestorian controversy was really the doctrine of Mary rather than the doctrine of Christ:
"Catholics claim that no serious question was raised about Mary's sinlessness after the Council of Ephesus in AD 431 which declared Mary to be 'God bearer, Mother of God'. What is not explained is the reason why no questions (according to the RCC) were raised after the council. It is clearly documented that Nestorius, bishop of Constantinople, was declared a heretic and exiled because he rejected the popular title given to Mary (Mother of God). The church would claim that Nestorius made it appear, in his emphasis on the reality of the humanity of Jesus, that Christ was two persons or 'two sons' the son of Mary and the son of God. Interestingly, the writings of Ignatius, a disciple of the apostle John and bishop of Antioch, declared a similar thought, 'Mary is presented as Mother of Christ according to his human nature, as the heavenly Father is his Father according to his divine nature (To the Ephesians)', with the same purpose to refute heretical thinking, and yet he is not declared a heretic. Nestorius was declared a heretic based on power politics and his denial of Mary as God-bearer, not on Christology. Nestorius was refuting heretical ideas that Christ was not flesh, only deity. In his autobiography, he insisted that he did not oppose the title 'God-bearer' because he denied the Godhead of Christ, but rather to distinguish that Jesus was a genuine human being born with a body and soul. He insisted that calling Mary 'God-bearer, Mother of God' was to declare that God could be born of a woman. Parents pre-exist their children, yet Mary a mortal woman could not pre-exist God; in fact the paradox remains clear to this day that Jesus the son of Mary pre-existed Mary. Yet with the reign of Constantine, the church had gained power, and so no serious questions would be raised outwardly, without the backing of the majority, once that power had been exercised on Nestorius." (Mariology: 849)
Even the trappings of monasticism that found a home in Roman Catholicism originated in the asceticism that was prevalent in Egypt, dating back to Hermes Trismegestis. Hermes or Thoth, a demi-god from the pre-flood civilization of Atlantis, became the prototype of the 'hermit' monk. The Council of Nicea in 321 A.D. may have been another dialectical operation. There St. Athanasius (296-373 AD), as Bishop of Alexandria, valiantly combated the Arian heresy which challenged the divinity of Jesus Christ. However, Athanasius also used that council as an opportunity to incorporate in the canons of the Church the requirement of celibacy for Christian leaders. (Catholic Encyclopedia: 548) Following his victory over the heresiarch Arius and the Arians, Athanasius traveled throughout Europe promoting monasticism and asceticism. He is credited with introducing monasticism specifically to the Romans and Germans.
In the Gnostic theology of Athanasius, only ascetics were considered the Bride of Christ, a pernicious teaching which influenced many devout Christians to seek Christ in monasteries and convents. Although the religious orders had the outward appearance of spiritual piety, they were often, however, fronts for occult as well as homosexual/lesbian activity. That asceticism, enforced celibacy and monastic life have borne evil fruit throughout the centuries is evident in the rampant sexual perversion of the Roman Catholic priesthood and hierarchy.
It was through the establishment of monsteries that the Merovingian Jews, whose forefathers were the Alexandrian Gnostics, began to infiltrate and mold the theology and practices of the Roman Catholic Church. Many of the popes were Merovingian monks who forced masses of European Jews to convert to Roman Catholicism., with the result that the Church incorporated traditions from both Judaism, the Talmud and the Kabbalah. (See: Mystery Babylon the Great: Catholic or Jewish?) We believe it will be from the monastic movement that the False Prophet, a Merovingian, will rise to prominence and power as the Antichrist's right hand man.
ELEVEN BEES

The Great Mother Goddess of the Merovingian bloodline was Diana, who was a lesbian.

"[Diana] devoted herself to hunting, always accompanied by a band of young women, who, like herself, abjured marriage. She is depicted with a quiver and attended by dogs. her most famous temple was at Ephesus, and was one of the seven wonders of the world." - 625:237

Kenneth Grant includes among Diana's sacred animals the bear, the bee and the crab, which all point to the sign of Cancer. The bee is also a symbol of Set or Satan. There are eleven bees on the arch of the Plantard crest; eleven, of course, is an occult number.

""In the Typhonian Tradition the Bear is the constellation of Ursa Major. The stars must be aligned in a specific way in order for Set [Satan] to be properly invoked. To the Priory of Sion (the secret, occult organization dedicated to preserving the Merovingian Bloodline), the Bear was an animal of the Goddess Diana. According to Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince, the authors of The Templar Revelation, ' ...the Merovingian kings, from their founder Merovee to Clovis (who converted to Christianity in 496) were 'pagan kings of the cult of Diana'.' Picknet and Prince got this information from the Dossiers Secrets of the Priory of Sion. The bees, which are a recurring symbol of the Merovingians are, in the Typhonian Tradition, represented frequently as the humming or buzzing sound that occurs before the appearance of the Great Old Ones or 'beings' proper to this tradition. Grant writes 'The bee, beetle, or crab, is therefore the link between the earliest manifestation of the Typhonion current and its final phases.' Also; '217 is the key number of [Crowley's] Book of the Law. 217 is also the number of DBVRH, meaning 'a bee' which is the specific symbol of Sekhet, whose name means 'a bee.' Sekhet is another aspect of the god Set. There are eleven bees because eleven is the number of Magick and of the sephirah on the Tree of Life, called Daath, which is the 'Gateway' to the backside of the Tree and to the Gods... As for the fleur de lys, in the Typhonian Tradition it represents the 'kingly man' that Crowley extols and the inheritor of the Grail Bloodline. In The Vision and the Voice, Crowley is 'conversing' with his Holy Guardian Angel Aiwas, who says: 'For I am not appointed to guard thee, but we are of the blood royal, the guardians of the Treasure-house of Wisdom.' The 'blood royal,' the Sangraal of the Holy Grail." - 571

"Eleven. Symbolic of transition, excess and peril and of conflict and martyrdom. According to Schneider, there is an infernal character about it: since it is in excess of the number of perfection - ten..." 48:234

"There is a good reason for the emphasis on eleven and twenty-twos: these numbers are both 'Master numbers' in the occult. They are particularly significant in cabalistic studies." 242:203

There are also 13 tribes of Israel: 2 in the southern kingdom of Judah (Judah and Benjamin) and 11 in the northern kingdom of Israel (Ephraim and Manasseh plus 9 other tribes representing the sons of Jacob). Possibly the 11 bees on the Plantard Crest represent the apostate northern kingdom of Israel.

THE BEARS

“The two bears denote the Mother (Typhon) and her son (Set) [Satan].” (Kenneth Grant) - 571



“...the daimon Typhon...was equated with the Egyptian god Set...” - 867



"The stars must be aligned in a specific way in order for Set to be properly invoked." Kenneth Grant, Grand Master, OTO

In Greek mythology, Callisto, the daughter of Lycaon, which means wolf, and sister of the lesbian Greek goddess Artemis, the huntress, known as Diana to the Romans. The name Artemis appears to be a derivative of 'Art' which means 'Bear, stone, or God' and Artemis/Diana was known the bear-goddess. Callisto, who belonged to the Artemis' band of lesbians, was raped by the king of Greek gods, Zeus; their offspring was Arcas. Variations of the myth are that either Zeus/Jupiter or his jealous wife Hera/Juno, hurled Callisto into the heavens where she became the Great Bear (Ursa Major) and Arcas soon followed as the Little Bear (Ursa Minor). The region of Greece known as Arcadia, where the Merovingians settled, is named after Arcas.

"The Sicambrians, ancestors of the Franks, were known as the 'people of the Bear' for their worship of the bear-goddess Arduina [Diana/Artemis]. The word 'Arcadia' comes from Arkas, patron god of that area of Greece, the son of the nymph Callisto, sister of the huntress Artemis. Callisto's constellation is also known to many as Ursa Major, the Great Bear.

"The name 'Arthur' comes from the Celtic arth, related to 'Ursus' -- namely, 'bear.' In legend, the Merovingians were said to be descended from the Trojans, and Homer reports that Troy was founded by a colony of Arcadians.

"The 'Prieure documents' claim that the Arcadians were descended from Benjamites driven out of Palestine by their fellow Israelites for idolatry. 'Arcadia' was also known as the source of the River Alphaeus, the 'underground stream' which figures so prominently in Coleridge's poetry and in esoteric literature." (491)

According to the Mysteries of Rennes-Le-Chateau, the overthrow and extermination of the Merovingian Dynasty was never fully accomplished. It seems that the son of Dagobert II, the last Merovingian king who was assassinated, left a son:

"The Merovingians were 'sacred kings' who reigned but did not rule, leaving the secular governing function to chancellors known as the Mayors of the Palace. It was one of these Mayors, Pepin the Fat, who founded the dynasty that came to supplant them--the Carolingians.

"One of the great Merovingian kings, Clovis, struck a deal with the newly nascent Roman church. He would subdue their enemies, the Arian Visigoths and the pagan Lombards, in return for baptism into the faith and recognition of his right to rule a new Roman empire as 'Novus Constantinus.'

"Yet one of his descendants, Dagobert II, was murdered by a lance pierced through his eye (or poison poured in the ear -- accounts vary) at the orders of Pepin. The church endorsed the assassination, flatly betrayed its pact with Clovis, and in turn recognized the family of usurpers as legitimate, culminating with the crowning of Charlemagne as Holy Roman Emperor. It was thought that the Merovingian lineage was extinguished; in any case it was excised from the history books.

"But there is some evidence that Dagobert's son, Siegebert IV, survived and that a Merovingian principality continued to be ruled in Septimania by Guillem de Gellone, a descendant--and ancestor--of Godfroi de Bouillon.

"If the Prieure documents are to be believed, the Merovingian lineage persists to this day, largely due to efforts to preserve it through intermarriage.

"The significance of such alliances is the key." - 491

Dagobert II's son, Sigisbert IV, was known as the 'Plant-Ard' or Sapling, an allusion to his demonically-rooted pedigree. Dagobert's marriage to "Magdala" at Rennes-le-Chateau in South France, was said to unite the divine 'beast of the sea' [Satan] with the Holy Family -- Jesus, Mary Magdalene and their 'divine' offspring. The Apocalyptic Secret of Rennes-le-Chateau explains this marriage as the union of the two 'divine' bloodlines:

"...the marriage of Dagobert II and Giselle of Razes combined the two bloodlines, that of the Holy Family and that of a pagan divine beast, the Quinotaur. The connection between the Merovingians and the Holy Family seems to have been hind-shadowed by this union of the bloodlines, when indeed they would seem from contemporary sources to be a kind of Pendragon lineage, such as Vortigern and Arthur in Britain. In Sigisbert IV, it appears the bloodlines of the divine king and the world teacher combined.

"Given the events of his childhood, it is natural that Sigsbert, the new Count of Rhedae, kept a low profile. The only solid evidence of his existence is a charter for a monastery signed in 718 by 'Sigebert, Comte de Rhedae, and his wife Magdala'." - 873 (Book 1, Chap. 9)

It will come as a surprise to many that the term 'Magdala' refers, not to Mary Magdalene, but to the 'Magdalenian Era' which was the last of the Paleolithic Age and noted for its cave paintings, particularly in North Spain and the Southwest of France. The bear god was worshipped in this area of France which later became the Languedoc, the legendary abode of Mary Magdalene.

“Archeaologists have found carvings and cave paintings of Bears at Drachenloch Caves, in Switzerland. Neanderthal man revered the Bear back as far as 70.000 years ago. In the Lascaux caves, in France, we find bear art back to 17,000 B.C. A sixth-century altar dedicated to the bear god, Aedeche, is found in the French town of St. Pé d'Ardet--the Vallée de l'Ourse -- not far from Lourdes. Many ancient cultures wore Bear skins with the head still attached to try to become Bear. Joseph Campbell claims that Bear Cults and Clans are older than shamanism.” (978)

'Magdala', in all probability was derived from the city 'Migdol' near Alexandria, Egypt, where the Queen of Heaven was worshipped as Isis.

"There is no necessity to endeavor to crowbar [Mary Magdalene] into a Galilean setting, for there are other intriguing alternatives for her place of origin: although there was no ‘Magdala’ in Judea in her day, there was a Magdolum in Egypt - just across the border - which was probably the Migdol mentioned in Ezekiel. There was a large and flourishing Jewish community in Egypt at that time, which was particularly centered on the great sea port of Alexandria, a seething cosmopolitan melting pot of many races, nationalities and religions and perhaps where the Holy Family had fled to escape the depredations of Herod’s men." - 843

God had a few words to say through the prophet Jeremiah to the disobedient Jews who worshipped the Queen of Heaven at Migdol:

The word that came to Jeremiah concerning all the Jews which dwell in the land of Egypt, which dwell at Migdol, and at Tahpanhes, and at Noph, and in the country of Pathros, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, and upon all the cities of Judah; and, behold, this day they are a desolation, and no man dwelleth therein, Because of their wickedness which they have committed to provoke me to anger, in that they went to burn incense, and to serve other gods, whom they knew not, neither they, ye, nor your fathers...

Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying, As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil. But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men? - Jer. 44:1-3,15-19

So Magdala, the wife of Sigisbert IV, was no offspring of Mary Magdalene; rather her name derived from the Magdalenian Era when the bear god was the divinity of choice in South France. No wonder the offspring of Sigisbert IV and Magdala were BEARS!

"...Dagobert II climbed on the throne but he was assassinated in 679 as well as his son Sigebert IV according to the official history...

"The Merovingian dynasty continued formally with Thierry IV and Childéric III who was removed in 751 and this was the end of the dynasty. According to the parchment found by Saunière, and this could be true according to some historians, Sigebert IV escaped and arrived in the Razes on the 17 of January 681 where he took refuge with his grand father. Dagobert II had as a second wife Gisèle, the daughter of Béra II the count of Razès. The Merovingian line included, after Sigebert IV (676-758) also known as the 'Plant-Ard' - from whom Mr Plantard took his name!-: Sigebert V (695-768), Bera III (715-771), Guillemon, Bera IV (755-836), Bera V (794-860), Hildéric I and finally Sigebert VI known as 'Ursus'. From this lineage came the Blanchefort family who gave three centuries later a Templar Grand Master, Bertrand de Blanchefort... According to the parchment found by Saunière the lineage did not stop with Sigebert VI but continued up to this date although nobody claimed the French throne." - 856

According to Webster's Dictionary (1913), BERA is the Anglo-Saxon word for BEAR, which possibly derives from the Latin word fera meaning 'wild beast', 'water beast' and 'sea bear'.

Bear \Bear\, n. [OE. bere, AS. bera; akin to D. beer, OHG. bero, pero, G. b["a]r, Icel. & Sw. bj["o]rn, and possibly to L. fera wild beast, Gr. ? beast, Skr. bhalla bear.]


1. (Zo["o]l.) Any species of the genus Ursus, and of the closely allied genera. Bears are plantigrade Carnivora, but they live largely on fruit and insects. Note: The European brown bear ({U. arctos}), the white polar bear ({U. maritimus}), the grizzly bear ({U.horribilis}), the American black bear, and its variety the cinnamon bear ({U. Americanus}), the Syrian bear ({Ursus Syriacus}), and the sloth bear, are among the notable species.
2. (Zo["o]l.) An animal which has some resemblance to a bear in form or habits, but no real affinity; as, the woolly bear; ant bear; water bear; sea bear.
3. (Astron.) One of two constellations in the northern hemisphere, called respectively the {Great Bear} and the {Lesser Bear}, or {Ursa Major} and {Ursa Minor}.

4. Metaphorically: A brutal, coarse, or morose person...- 868

The term, plantigrade, found in definition #1, describes the two rampant bears in the Plantard family crest, and also the description of the first beast of Revelation13:

Plantigrade \Plan"ti*grade\, n. (Zo["o]l.)

A plantigrade animal, or one that walks or steps on the sole of the foot, as man, and the bears.
Plantigrade \Plan"ti*grade\, a. [L. planta sole of the foot + gradi to walk: cf. F. plantigrade.] (Zo["o]l.) - 868

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, - Rev. 13:2

Pertaining to definition #4, according to Holy Blood, Holy Grail, Alpheus, the river god and lord of the underground stream is a 'bearded water deity [who] reposes in an attitude of brooding moroseness'. - 31:180-2



In the book of Genesis, the king of Sodom was named Bera, which means 'son of evil'. Bera offered goods to Abraham which the latter wisely refused.

And it came to pass in the days of Amraphel king of Shinar, Arioch king of Ellasar, Chedorlaomer king of Elam, and Tidal king of nations; That these made war with Bera king of Sodom, and with Birsha king of Gomorrah, Shinab king of Admah, and Shemeber king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela, which is Zoar...
And there went out the king of Sodom, and the king of Gomorrah, and the king of Admah, and the king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (the same is Zoar;) and they joined battle with them in the vale of Siddim;...

And the vale of Siddim was full of slimepits; and the kings of Sodom and Gomorrah fled, and fell there; and they that remained fled to the mountain. And they took all the goods of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all their victuals, and went their way. And they took Lot, Abram's brother's son, who dwelt in Sodom, and his goods, and departed.
And there came one that had escaped, and told Abram the Hebrew; for he dwelt in the plain of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol, and brother of Aner: and these were confederate with Abram. And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained servants, born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued them unto Dan. And he divided himself against them, he and his servants, by night, and smote them, and pursued them unto Hobah, which is on the left hand of Damascus. And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people...
And the king of Sodom said unto Abram, Give me the persons, and take the goods to thyself. And Abram said to the king of Sodom, I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth, That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich: - Genesis 14

Recalling that Ursa Major means Great Bear, it is noteworthy that the Prieuré de Sion was founded by one Prince Ursus.

"The 'Prieuré documents' imply that...an abbey existed by 1100 and housed an order of the...name [Ordre de Sion] which may have been formed earlier...

"It is known that in 1070, twenty-nine years before the First Crusade, a specific band of monks from Calabria in southern Italy arrived in the vicinity of the Ardennes Forrest, part of Godfroi de Bouillon's domains. According to Gérard de Sède this band of monks was led by an individual called Ursus--a name the 'Prieuré documents' consistently associate with the Merovingian bloodline... [A]t Orval, not far from Stenay, where Dagobert II had been assassinated some five hundred years earlier...an abbey was established to house the monks... By 1108 they had mysteriously disappeared... Orval, by 1131, had become one of the fiefs owned by Saint Bernard.

"Before their departure from Orval, however, the Calabrian monks may have left a crucial mark on Western history. According to Gérard de Sède, at least, they included the man subsequently known as Peter the Hermit. If this is so, it would be extremely significant, for Peter the Hermit is often believed to have been Godfroi de Bouillon's personal tutor... In 1095, along with Pope Urban II, Peter made himself known throughout Christendom by charismatically preaching the need for a crusade--a holy war that would reclaim Christ's sepulchre and the Holy Land from the Muslim infidel. Today, Peter the Hermit is regarded as one of the chief instigators of the 'Crusades.'

"...mysterious Abbey of Orval...[is] where our research suggested the Prieuré de Sion may have had its inception." - 31:113,170

“According to the Prieure's own documents, its history is long and convoluted. Its earliest roots are in some sort of Hermetic or Gnostic society led by a man named Ormus. This individual is said to have reconciled paganism and Christianity. The story of Sion only comes into focus in the Middle Ages. In 1070, a group of monks from Calabria, Italy, led by one Prince Ursus, founded the Abbey of Orval in France near Stenay, in the Ardennes. These monks are said to have formed the basis for the Order de Sion, into which they were 'folded' in 1099 by Godfroi de Bouillion.” - 922

The constellations of Great Bear and Leo the Lion governed Ancient Egypt under the Pharaonic dynasties, which were also from this demonic bloodline. In the Great Mayan Cycle, which spans all twelve signs of the Zodiac, this was known as the Age of Taurus.

"The sign of Taurus is taken as representing the initiating impulse that starts the process of illumination. Taurus the Bull is the great Bestower of Light, who fertilises the minds of mankind with seeds of light...

"It should be noticed...that the so-called 'Unification of the Two Lands' in Ancient Egypt, which marked the start of the first cycle of pharoanic dynasties, began with the commencement of the astronomical Age of Taurus, c. 3,240 BC... The symbol of the bull was of particular importance for Egypt throughout its history...

"...At the time that the pharaonic civilisation of Ancient Egypt was supposed to have begun, c. 3.240 BC, the Spring Equinoctial sun arose in the middle of the zodiacal sign of Taurus, and the May Day festival sun was on the cusp of the signs of Cancer and Gemini...

"The first and main cycle of the Egyptian pharaonic civilisation...spanned...more than just the Taurean Age. These astronomical ages were recognised by the Egyptians, and their civilisation adapted accordingly, but the cycle of their civilisation was not governed primarily by such ages. There was something even more significant in the heavens which governed that particular cycle of the Egyptian civilisation - the association of two great constellations that have special significance to each other, one near the north pole and the other in the zodiac. These two constellations, which determined the whole length and course of the first cycle of Egyptian pharaonic civilisation, were Ursa Major, the Great Bear, and Leo, the Lion. ...Leo is also a symbol of the heart, and Ursa Major was considered by the Egyptians to be the magical 'thigh' (or right foreleg) of Taurus, the latter symbolising the illumined mind and referred to as the 'Eye' of Horus. With this 'thigh of the Eye of Horus' Ptah (the Creator god signifying the Voice of God) 'opened' the mouths of divine entities and the souls of the dead." - 889:27

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. - Rev. 13:2

Since New Agers are trying to replicate the ancient Egyptian culture which was based on the pre-Flood civilization of Atlantis, it is ominous that Ursa Major in Cancer and Leo, the Lion are the final signs of the Biblical zodiac promoted by Kennedy et al and represent the greater sheepfold of the Christ who will come to destroy his enemies.

"The last four signs make the most sense if they stand for the final consummation of all things. This section would then foretell the coming judgments on the earth and the glorious outcome of Christ's reign.

“Taurus, the Bull, is an angry, rushing animal, which would be a meaningful symbol of God delivering His wrath during the Tribulation. The Decans are Orion, Eridanus, and Auriga. Orion is the warrior-prince with a sword on his side and his foot on the hare or serpent. Eridanus, the torturous River, is the River of Judgment belonging to Orion. Auriga, the Shepherd, is a picture of a powerful shepherd-king who tenderly holds a she-goat and two little goats in his left arm. This could be a picture of The Lord's comfort of the persecuted believers of this coming period of judgment.

“Gemini, The Twins, are two human figures seated together in loving closeness. This could portray the Marriage of the Lamb. (See Marriage Supper of the Lamb.) The Decans are Lepus, Canis Major, and Canis Minor. Lepus is the mad hare, the enemy under Orion's feet. Canis Major, Sirius, the Great Dog could prefigure the Prince coming in His glory. Then Canis Minor, Procyon, The Second Dog, would be his princely following.

“Cancer the Crab is the figure of a crab, in the act of taking and holding on with its pincers. This could be a picture of the victorious King of Kings when He returns, and the Decans, Ursa Minor, the Lesser Bear, Ursa Major the Greater Bear, and Argo, could picture His privileged followers. Ursa Minor could also mean the lesser sheepfold, and stand for the first-born who will be rulers, and Ursa Major could be the greater sheepfold, the ones born later. Argo, the Ship, brings the weary travelers home from their toils and travels.

“Leo, the Lion might easily picture Christ in His final victory over the Devil. All three of the Decans point to the destruction of the enemy, pictured as a serpent. Hydra, the fleeing Serpent, is about to be pounced upon by the lion. Crater, the Bowl of Wrath, is placed on the serpent. And Corvus, the Raven, the bird of doom, is also on the serpent, devouring his carcass." (Prophecy Central, Gospel in the Stars promo) - 850

Peter Dawkins is a recognized authority on the Baconian-Rosicrucian philosophies and Ancient Wisdom teachings. He is the author of the Francis Bacon Research Trust Journal Series, Studies in Ancient Wisdom, whose purpose is "to give insight into the complete initiatory path that all the great Religions or Wisdom Traditions have taught from time immemorial, as being the Way, the Truth and the Life." (889:12) Volume 5 of Dawkins' series, Arcadia: The Ancient Egyptian Mysteries, reveals to the 'initiated' the esoteric meaning of the 'Great Bear' and 'Little Bear'. Dawkins promotes the same twaddle as Bullinger and Kennedy about the Bear really being a Sheepfold; however, because he is writing to esotericists, Dawkins discloses its deeper significance—that the Sheepfold is the "heavenly place of enlightenment" to which the initiates of mankind (sheep) are led, presumably by the adepts and masters who are their "shepherds".

"Associated in esoteric knowledge with this role of high kingship is the symbol of the North Pole Star - the 'crown of the world - and the circumpolar constellations. Of these, the Lesser and the Greater Bear are the most important: the former providing the present North Pole Star. The 'Bear' is a veil to the real name, which means 'Dove', or 'Sheepfold', or 'Chariot'. As the Chariot, it is Arthur's vehicle of manifestation, as also the fiery chariot on which Elijah ascended to heaven. Hence Arthur is known as 'the Bear'. As the Sheepfold, it is the heavenly place of peace and enlightenment that Jesus spoke of, to which the 'sheep' (i.e. initiates) of mankind are led, and from which the 'shepherds' (i.e. the adepts and masters) come from. As the Dove, it is known as the vehicle of the Holy Spirit, by means of which that Spirit descends to the earth and governs its kingdom. It is signified by the royal crown of a High King (i.e. a crown with arches) - a halo of light which descends upon a truly worthy and anointed (i.e. illuminated) soul, bestowing full knowledge of Truth. The Great Bear is known as the mother of the Little Bear, which is her son. The Rampant Bear and Ragged Staff emblem...depicts just this - the Bear constellation tied to the Pole of the earth's axis, and dancing around it." - 889:80

Dawkins has already informed the reader in Volume 4 of his series, The Great Vision: The Judaic-Christian Mysteries, as to the identity of the shepherds who left the 'heavenly place of enlightenment' to enable the human race to evolve: the Christ Brotherhood of Sirius.

"...Jesus of Nazareth, is historically one of those truly great souls that we call Christs, Sons of God... It is said that his soul achieved perfection in worlds other than our own, and that he is a Great Initiate of the star system called Sirius, the evolution of which is far beyond our own. From the great Christ Brotherhood of Sirius, he came with two others on a special mission to our solar system, entering it via the Sun, its heart, and then incarnating into the coarse environment of our planetary sphere via the finer environment of our twin planet, Venus. With these three Sirian Initiates came their circles of disciples, 'picked up' en route; souls associated with both the Sun and Venus, in which spheres they had achieved certain levels of initiation, but who needed or chose to undertake such a mission as this one to the planet Earth as part of their next step in initiation...

"The mission of the Christ Jesus to our planet is one of overseeing, inspiring, guiding and teaching the younger souls of Earth's humanity throughout their whole conscious human evolution on this planet, and helping to provide an evolutionary stimulus at certain required times. By incarnating into the substance and evolutionary chain of events of this planet, this great Teacher and his company of Sages are able to experience and understand the peculiarities of our human and planetary evolution, its pains and joys, and by participating in it to truly love and teach others by example and by close ties of friendship. As well as being examples of the perfect life, they act as yeast in the dough of humanity. Such a mission, in which spheres of beauty, harmony and illuminated peace are deliberately left in order to live in and experience the ugliness, inharmony and human injustice of our less evolved world, constitutes a conscious, self-sacrifice in the Name of Love... The sacrifice of the Venusian souls who came with Jesus is great, but not as great as the Sun-souls who accompanied Jesus, and theirs is not nearly as great as that of the Sirian Souls...

"The Ancient Wisdom Traditions teach us that these mighty souls came to our planet approximately 18 million years ago, living in aetheric bodies and inhabiting the land subsequently known as Hyperborea ('the Land beyond the North Wind)... Establishing this area as their principle home and temple, they then moved across the world to other key areas in order to act as guides and teachers to the young races of humanity. Young humanity was, at the time of this great incarnation of 'God-men' and 'Sun-men', existing and evolving in areas of the world known as Mu, the Motherland." - 902:38-9

The Great Bear and Little Bear, located in the sign of Cancer, immediately precede the last sign of the so-called 'Biblical Zodiac', Leo, the Lion, which, we are told, presages Christ in His final victory over the Devil. Nowhere in Scripture is the sheepfold of Jesus Christ compared to a bear; moreover, as sheep, they are warned about the lion: "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour." (I Pet. 5:8) Rather than shepherds and sheepfolds of Jesus Christ, the bear and lion of the Zodiac appear to be the Antichrist and his false religious system.

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a BEAR, and his mouth as the mouth of a LION: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. - Rev. 13:1-5
Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light. As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him. - Amos 5:19-20

Answer 2

The Catholic Church does not teach that Jesus didn't have a bloodline. He is of the line of King David. What the Catholic Church teaches is that the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit are one and the same God. This means that Jesus IS God. If Jesus had children, they would be demigods.

The Catholic Church teaches that there is but one God in three persons, not a God and many demigods.

The second part of your question is if I would mind if he had one? If you mean do I mind if Jesus has a bloodline? No, I know he is descended from David, a royal bloodline. If you mean do I mind if Jesus had children? The answer is: That would trouble me very much because, like the Catholic Church, I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IN DEMIGODS.

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Answer 3

He does have a bloodline and the Catholic Church acknowledges and agrees with that. Mary & Joseph were on their way to be counted in the census when Jesus was born in Nazareth. Joseph was decended from the house of David. Therefore Jesus was a decendant of Abraham making him a Jew. Be careful when you make blanket statements without verification. ***note I'm not Catholic.

Answer 4

The argument is that there is no basis in fact to prove that Jesus with either married or had a child from which a bloodline could descend. Had he, would it change my belief in him? No, Jesus was God made man and the Bible points out that he was subject to the same trials and tribulations as all humans were. Therefore, it is plausible that he was subjected to being attracted to a woman and if he'd married it would be likely that they had children. However, I personally don't believe he did.

Answer 5

I don't mind at all.

But if Jesus was born of the virgin Mary and the Nicene Creed is correct, Mary isn't the biological mother, she's just the host and Jesus has NO bloodline for his DNA, he's a miraculous virgin birth of supernatural origin. The Holy Spirit magicked up a 46-chromosome egg that grew into the baby Jesus.

This is the Catholic position. One Catholic writer achieved sainthood for arguing for the ETERNAL virginity of Mary (that she never had sex with anyone, not even Joseph).

If you believe that, it is BLASPHEMOUS to suggest this lamb of God was of human, genetic origin.

Answer 6

The don't have an arguement beyond "its not in the Bible, so it can't have happened.

The problem they have with it is that it makes him more human than they like (even though they claim to think he was both God and a man).

I personally could care less, and, after thinking about it, it would make more sense for him to have married and had kids by the time he was 30 than otherwise because of the time period and culture he was a part of.

Answer 7

The church's argument is that he was never married and since he was holy and without sin then he never had sex outside of marriage. However if he had children then his descendants would not be anything special, and that's one of the concerns with the bloodline myths is that people claiming to be his descendants would try to seize power both ecclesiastic and political.

Answer 8

For starters, there is no sound Biblical proof that he was in a relationship or even married. If this, by some weird chance is true, it goes against every Christian's foundational belief.

P.S.- If you're talking about "The Da Vinci Code", it was written as a fiction book and nothing in the book or movie is fact (the historical facts are extremely off).

Answer 9

He came from the House of David. That is His bloodline. His actual purpose was to sacrifice His life for mankind. There is no purpose to His being married, having children, etc. and no proof of it either. Anywhere.

Answer 10

I think it would be cool if there was a bloodline of Jesus.

But what I think, and what Dan Brown thinks, have zero relevance to the truth.

I can think that Boeing 707s are made out of Jell-O, but that doesn't make it true.

Answer 11

at one time the catholic church was against those who said the world was round