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I remember my calculus teacher telling us that if the conditions during the big bang were off the most astromically small amount the universe as we know it would not have formed. He called this the scientific proof of god because the probability of the universe forming was something like .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% I can't remember I can't remember the equation he used to arrive at this percentage, does anyone know about this?

2006-07-01 09:54:38 · 35 answers · asked by Albert F 1 in Science & Mathematics Astronomy & Space

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No. There's no scientific proof of God. God is based on a belief, not a fact.

2006-07-01 09:56:57 · answer #1 · answered by Naked 5 · 0 0

First, it is not proof, but it does allow for the possibility of a creator.
Let me explain like this.......

If you won the lottery this week, and then next week , and then again a third week, chances are you will be hauled to jail for having rigged the results. The probability of winning 3 in a row, or in a lifetime, is so small as to be negligible. But you could say.."probability never says never, it is just a rare set of circumstances." This is true, probability never says never. But all of physics, which mean all of nature, is based on the understanding that the very very very unlikely never happens.

With the Universe we did not just win one lottery. We won at the choice for strength of the electromagnetic force ( which encourages atoms to join into molecules). We won at the strength of the strong nuclear force ( which holds atomic nuclei together. If it were a bit stronger the diportion and not hydrogen would be the componet of the Universe, and no hydrogen means no shining stars). I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. We won a whole arsenal of lotteries!

The energy of the big bang has a constant. If the energy in the bigbang was different by 1 part out of 10 to the 120th power then there would be no life anywhere in the universe. Scientific notation is an understatement and this may be what your teacher was saying. If 1 part out of 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, then there would be no life. Amazing ain't it? It made me quit with the zero's. But it is like 113 zero's after the 1.

Like I said, it is not proof of God, but it sure leaves the possibility for there to be one.

Whoever says science and religion don't mix, is mistaken.
I quote Michael Behe a molecular biologist and a Catholic....
"You can be a good Catholic and believe in Darwinism ( random mutations of genes sifted by nature's selection). Biochemistry has made it increasingly difficult, however, to be a thoughtful scientist and believe in it."

I am not Catholic, but I do believe in God. I hope you do too, and that I have helped.

2006-07-01 11:54:02 · answer #2 · answered by Nep-Tunes 6 · 1 0

Yes, somebody posted that one not long ago. Like all creationist attempts at science, it's badly flawed.

The first problem is how you arrive at the probabilities. Our knowledge of how universes come into being is limited by having a sample of one, and we weren't around to see that one happen. This points to rectal extraction as the likely source for some of those numbers.

For all we know, all the other possibilities happened too, but we don't live in those universes because they're uninhabitable.

Also, highly improbable things happen all the time. Any well-shuffled deck of cards has only a one in 80 x 10^66 chance of being in the state it's in.

In any case, all you can prove by such an exercise is that there are powers in the universe that we don't understand. To infer from this that said powers are fond of incense animal sacrifice and Republicans, and opposed to gay marriage and secular humanism, is a bit of a stretch.

2006-07-01 10:41:35 · answer #3 · answered by injanier 7 · 1 0

alright, there's a few things. here is a site that doesnt give you a percentage but kind of shows you exactly how pathetically small a chances there are for the whole evolution thing to have occured. "Evolutionary head Dr. Carl Sagan of Cornell University himself, pretended to estimate that just life "evolving" by itself on a planet like earth, would represent a chance of 1 in 10 followed by 2 billion zeroes! That many zeroes would approximately fill 6000 150 page books or 900.000 webpages"

also there is a scientific proof of God based on the rules of our universe. One of the natural laws of our universe is that matter (atoms) cannot be created or destroyed. Now, if there is no God then the universe has already defied its own laws by creating itself in the first place. Therefore, either there is a God or the universe itself is a thinking being and is therefore a god in and of itself. I myself don't go for the universe being God so i figure there is a God as it states in the Bible

2006-07-01 10:03:29 · answer #4 · answered by Dan 2 · 1 0

Actually, even with that tiny percentage, all it has to do is happen once. There are theories of scalar fields of potential energy, where something went a bit off (quantum indeterminacy) and caused an imbalance inside what is called a "false vaccuum." That event, about 14.5 billion years ago, realeased a staggering amount of energy, causing space to unfurl in 4 dimensions (including time), 7 other dimensions to curl up infinitessimally small, giving genesis to a singularity with nearly infinite density and energy, which has been expanding and cooling ever since. That "singularity" expanded into 28 billion light years of space, and it's still expanding. The rest is a long, long, loooooong story, if you want the scientific theory. It's much easier to just say "God did it." Period. End of story. I'm willing to believe in "God" as long as nobody tries to define to me what that is. Where would we be without eating from the "Tree of Knowledge?" Barefoot and pregnant?

2006-07-11 18:11:05 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If the chance of the universe ever forming is that small, then obviously you can say it's either God's doing or just pure luck. Based on the evolutionary study of animals "supposedly evolved", is it not coincidence that certain mutations just happened or certain genetic drifts or speciations happen just because? If Albert Einstein believed in God then God must exist. Who wouldn't take a brilliant mind into consideration.

2006-07-01 10:08:08 · answer #6 · answered by corpulent dumpling 1 · 0 0

Therre's a LOT more than IIII know, but what I know is limited, I'll be honored to share with you...

In every cup of dirt is the same number of minerals that are in our body, giving proof we came from the Earth, as Adam did.

Also, the CLOSEST star to earth (not including our Sun of course), it's LIGHT is 4.3 DAYS away from us. This would support the fact that on the 4th day, God created the Heavens.

EVERYBODY's color comes from the SAME things that MAKE UP our skin color. So, this could support the fact that we all came from the same parents; Adam and Eve.

Anthropologists, and HISTORIANS no longer call this era, A.D. It is NOW called C.E. Before Christ is referred to as Before Christian Era.

Christ is the ONLY one to live, who rose from the grave. No body every told me about the bones they found in Christ's tomb, in Jerusalem, I think it is.

Neanderthal "man" has no common DNA to humans. So we DID not come from any APES!

I REALLY question the VALIDITY of "C-14 dating." After Mt Saint Helen's exploded, the hot lava runoff created a "Mini" Grand Canyon, making me think, that Carbons are like humans. Although MANY humans live to an average age of 70, many die before 70, from accidents, and disease. Elements on the periodic table have an AMU, which is an AVERAGE. How can ANYBODY say that an AVERAGE Carbon-14 can give an ACURATE DATING. And how can ANYBODY accurately say that it took "MILLIONS" of years to create the Grand Canyon.

Science can proove God. History PROOVED JESUS. What little faith anyone needs.

See your pastor for any more answers, unless you want me to be it. I'd be priviledged and honored to lead.

2006-07-15 09:12:15 · answer #7 · answered by thewordofgodisjesus 5 · 0 0

The scientific proof of God is called the God code, it is based on probabilities of events occurring by chance

2006-07-12 06:54:43 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

That is not a proof of GOD, that is a proof that we exist. Probability cannot prove the existance of an all powerful being. The odds of winning the lottery are miniscule, but that doesn't mean God is picking the numbers.

2006-07-01 09:59:41 · answer #9 · answered by John J 6 · 0 0

it's one thing to consider the vanishingly small probability of our particular universe turning out exactly the way it has, but quite another to consider the extremly high probability that the universe would have come out as *something* just as complicated, albeit different.

Take the existing universe, and change exactly one thing (move that one grain of sand a micron to the left). Now make all possible such modifications. It's a very large set of possible outcomes.

It's only mystical if you think it has to have ended all evolution with the creation of George Bush.

2006-07-07 21:13:43 · answer #10 · answered by samsyn 3 · 0 0

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